Non Lions Discussion 2024

[Grasshopper17]

Been some exciting footy played so far this weekend (thought I’d never be caught saying that again). Common theme: fast, aggressive ball use. Notable for me that even when defending narrow leads late in games, both Port and Freo continued to look to score rather than shut up shop.

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Umpiring still worse than herpes but

Just keeping you hanging on Rip. Now it'll be sh!te for another month

 

[Sanchez365]

This may be more suited to the list management sentiment, but we don't spend a lot of time identifying players from the fringes of other squads and seeing if they can develop into best 22 players for us.

We mostly have gone for big fish high profile types that clearly are best 22. The biggest bargain bin we look in is clearly developed players that have had big injuries. We are very risk adverse when it comes tp backing ourselves to correctly develop players on our list. The closest I can thing of is Ah Chee, and he's not terrible but barely more consistent then he was at 21.

 

[McIvor]

This may be more suited to the list management sentiment, but we don't spend a lot of time identifying players from the fringes of other squads and seeing if they can develop into best 22 players for us.

We mostly have gone for big fish high profile types that clearly are best 22. The biggest bargain bin we look in is clearly developed players that have had big injuries. We are very risk adverse when it comes tp backing ourselves to correctly develop players on our list. The closest I can thing of is Ah Chee, and he's not terrible but barely more consistent then he was at 21.

I think the closest was Linc which has been a great get but maybe he was in the injured camp as opposed to a big name. Cal too as you pointed out but Linc is the pic for mine

 

[Sanchez365]

I think the closest was Linc which has been a great get but maybe he was in the injured camp as opposed to a big name. Cal too as you pointed out but Linc is the pic for mine

Linc was definitely a player that Geelong didn't want to let go before joining. He played 26 games in 5 seasons at the cats and then has played 103 in 5 seasons for us (not including an additional 7 games so far in his 6th season for us). From my recollection his lack of games at the cats was only due to injuries.

We have had busts in the same period, Cockatoo is the first obvious one that comes to mind that cost us a similar amount (basically nothing) as McCarthy did.

 

[briztoon]

This may be more suited to the list management sentiment, but we don't spend a lot of time identifying players from the fringes of other squads and seeing if they can develop into best 22 players for us.

This isn't as easy as it sounds.

You are trying to attract a fringe best 22 player to move States, and asking him to fight for a similar spot here. And they're not the type of player you give a long or high paying contract to.

There are two types of players willing to move States.

The first type are players signing a long term contract on decent coin, typically a "name" player who is more than likely guaranteed a starting spot.

The second type are players on their last chance. Whether that's due to injuries curtailing their career, behavioural issues, or players with marginal talent looking to stick on a list.

We mostly have gone for big fish high profile types that clearly are best 22. The biggest bargain bin we look in is clearly developed players that have had big injuries. We are very risk adverse when it comes tp backing ourselves to correctly develop players on our list. The closest I can thing of is Ah Chee, and he's not terrible but barely more consistent then he was at 21.

 

[Sanchez365]

This isn't as easy as it sounds.

You are trying to attract a fringe best 22 player to move States, and asking him to fight for a similar spot here. And they're not the type of player you give a long or high paying contract to.

There are two types of players willing to move States.

The first type are players signing a long term contract on decent coin, typically a "name" player who is more than likely guaranteed a starting spot.

The second type are players on their last chance. Whether that's due to injuries curtailing their career, behavioural issues, or players with marginal talent looking to stick on a list.

I'm not trying to suggest list management is easy in any way shape or form. I also acknowledge we don't have as many options of players with half decent careers returning home for unders.

We have as such looked mostly for value in players who have seemed to be highly rated / had shown significant upside that have been curtailed by injury.

This is more of a statement about us looking for serious depth in state leagues / mid season drafts. This year is perhaps the first year we have actually had the list space and LTI for us to perhaps look seriously, however the concept just doesn't seem to be in the DNA of how our list management operates. Besides guys playing on our reserves team already, who was the last state league player we picked up as a rookie that didn't have previous AFL experience? Was is Oscar?

 

[rye]

This isn't as easy as it sounds.

You are trying to attract a fringe best 22 player to move States, and asking him to fight for a similar spot here. And they're not the type of player you give a long or high paying contract to.

There are two types of players willing to move States.

The first type are players signing a long term contract on decent coin, typically a "name" player who is more than likely guaranteed a starting spot.

The second type are players on their last chance. Whether that's due to injuries curtailing their career, behavioural issues, or players with marginal talent looking to stick on a list.

you missed the third and probably most common reason: players drafted interstate looking to return to their home state

not really a source of talent for us but may become so in the future

 

[M Malice]

Not many people at Metricon for the Suns v Eagles.

 

[Elixuh]

I can’t believe we got rid of Witho

 

[Nathan Barley]

Eagles forwardline functioning well without Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

25

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

. Wonder if there’s another team who wouldn’t mind having him….

 

[Lace Out]

3 buckaroos for the Suns next week…crazy stuff,deal me in.

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

Gold Coast doing a job on west coast
Tom berry looks almost there
Just turns it over occasionally with a bad kick or decision
But he bloody fights to make up for it
Because of that I ll back him in

 

[Jivlain]

West Coast with Reid may well have won this one

 

[Nathan Barley]

Need to break even in clearances next week

 

[BRAB]

Need to break even in clearances next week

If we lose to the suns at the Gabba I’m going to cry all the way home to Nerang.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Anybody watching this game realise Gunston is playing? Almost a quarter in and 0 disposals, 1 free against

 

[irel]

Anybody watching this game realise Gunston is playing? Almost a quarter in and 0 disposals, 1 free against

How many Supercoch points does that make?

 

[Grasshopper17]

Sydney's kicking for goal

 

[Elixuh]

Anybody watching this game realise Gunston is playing? Almost a quarter in and 0 disposals, 1 free against

To be fair to gunners hawthorn has barely had the ball And are getting reamed

 

[Nathan Barley]

To be fair to gunners hawthorn has barely had the ball And are getting reamed

First quarter was pretty even

Even now they’ve only had 3 less inside 50s

 

[Elixuh]

First quarter was pretty even

Even now they’ve only had 3 less inside 50s

Yeah but all of them are being kicked to Sydney defenders lol

 

[Nunez]

If we lose to the suns at the Gabba I’m going to cry all the way home to Nerang.

If we lose to the Suns I am detecting.

 

[M Malice]

If we lose to the Suns I am detecting.

Shirley not Nunez.

 

[Nunez]

Shirley not Nunez.

What do you have against detecting?

 

[Mr Ripper]

What do you have against detecting?

You went for the family-friendly deliberate misspelling of defecting I see.