Autopsy 76 point Team Effort win vs Hawthorn

[SwansProudly]

 

[Ticky009]

 

[caesar88]

Wow, can't believe 37,052 Swans fans showed up. Bloods culture

 

[Dubai Quacker]

I felt we got a decent run with the umps today.

But they still don’t seem to like Grundy.

 

[bedford]

Can we move on from this Wicks crap . We won let's enjoy it against scumthorn

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Rift or not, it's pure s**t form to let a bloke jog back to the square on his lonesome after kicking a goal at the G.

Hopefully the coaches and/or captain put a rocket up 'em.

Havent watched yet but was it really that bad? like intentional done or just something that happened

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

I'd forgotten the game was tied at 2 goals halfway through the first quarter. After that it was 16 goals to 3.

We've pretty much ticked every box. 76 points over the Hawks was equal biggest winning margin of the year. Our percentage is highest by a street.

I'm loving McDonald's progress. I don't what people are going on about. He had game-high 10 score involvements, 5 marks, 5 contested possessions, 2 tackles, 3 goals. Can hardly be doing any more.

If Logan was an opposition player you’d have half of the posters here lamenting that we are never able to draft key forwards like him.

No one knows how to dump on their own players like a few on this board. Even when we win big.


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[Grand Uncle Horace]

Paps high 5d Sam after his first goal and after S laced a pass to him. No-one was remotely near him when he kicked his second.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Can we move on from this Wicks crap . We won let's enjoy it against scumthorn

Agree. It’s like some posters will find almost anything else to talk about other than a win or something positive. It really sours a win coming here and reading the gossipy nonsense.


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[momentbymoment]

The good things for me where not the highlights but

Melicans game and the defensive group as a hole.

In50 I think John won’t be happy with. Lucky they are no good

McDonald in air contest , that’s all you ask. Reckon that’s the best he looked

Chad warners defensive game , that was unreal.

Jmac is close to the best winger in the comp

Could the person who hacked Punts account please stop. This level of positivity is disturbing.

 

[MF]

Lloyds best game in his new role. He’s going nowhere.

Yeah I thought he was great today. I think Campbell might be the unlucky one to make way for Parker with Fox sub.

 

[ashep]

Agree. It’s like some posters will find almost anything else to talk about other than a win or something positive. It really sours a win coming here and reading the gossipy nonsense.


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Ok but you haven't said anything about the game at all. The only 2 posts you've made are to dump on other posters. Be the change you want to see!

Forget the gossip. You've got a guy who's been in and out of the side over the past few years kicking a goal to stretch the margin against one our biggest rivals at the MCG and he jogs all the way back to the square on his own, and is then ignored once he gets there.

I've never seen that before. But otherwise, I agree, the story should be the fact that we had another great win and we're flying at the moment. This was just a minor curiosity.

 

[bloodsbigot]

I think the Richmond loss is what we needed.

Swans were breathing fire in the second half.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

2nd on the ladder with the best %. 2nd best defence in the league and 2nd best attack. Best player in the league.

Can't ask for much more. Except for the season's end to match the hype of our start.

 

[The King!]

Looking at the current side and trying an exercise in thinking well Parker is back this week I am guessing ( I wouldn’t be rushing to change necessarily), at some stage soon Rampe and eventually Mills returns, no doubt injuries and form hit but sort of looking at who can make way and doing a bit of an exercise



Anyone who plays poorly for an extended patch shouldn’t be above being dropped lets be real, eg if Ladhams shines constantly and Grundy falls away, then the change should in theory happen.



Having said that , right now barring a miraculous turn of events due to what they do and in some cases the role they play I see these players as completely safe in the team



Warner

Mclean

Grundy

Heeney

Mcdonald

Rowbottom

Papley

Florent

Gulden

Blakey

McCartin

Melican





These guys are basically locked in but either haven’t played much for us or say a bad 3-4 weeks and maybe they get the chop for someone like a Mills or Parker if the timing was right



Adams- been solid but for us is yet to have an outstanding game

Hayward

Mcinnerney

Roberts - again been great but if he stunk it up for weeks and Mills was ready

Lloyd- maybe harsh



These guys I was trying to work out the bottom 6 by default feels harsh on Harry especially but again maybe most changeable so most likely if you say Parker has to play- I know some would put Hayward here and some arguably make no sense for Parker- eg Amartey out would change the whole structure of the side.



Cunningham

Wicks

Jordon

Amartey

Fox

Campbell- by default as sub saying he is our last picked


Not saying someone like Fox is no good , more working backwards who is most expendable , could possibly be upgraded.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Looking at the current side and trying an exercise in thinking well Parker is back this week I am guessing ( I wouldn’t be rushing to change necessarily), at some stage soon Rampe and eventually Mills returns, no doubt injuries and form hit but sort of looking at who can make way and doing a bit of an exercise



Anyone who plays poorly for an extended patch shouldn’t be above being dropped lets be real, eg if Ladhams shines constantly and Grundy falls away, then the change should in theory happen.



Having said that , right now barring a miraculous turn of events due to what they do and in some cases the role they play I see these players as completely safe in the team



Warner

Mclean

Grundy

Heeney

Mcdonald

Rowbottom

Papley

Florent

Gulden

Blakey

McCartin

Melican





These guys are basically locked in but either haven’t played much for us or say a bad 3-4 weeks and maybe they get the chop for someone like a Mills or Parker if the timing was right



Adams- been solid but for us is yet to have an outstanding game

Hayward

Mcinnerney

Roberts - again been great but if he stunk it up for weeks and Mills was ready

Lloyd- maybe harsh



These guys I was trying to work out the bottom 6 by default feels harsh on Harry especially but again maybe most changeable so most likely if you say Parker has to play- I know some would put Hayward here and some arguably make no sense for Parker- eg Amartey out would change the whole structure of the side.



Cunningham

Wicks

Jordon

Amartey

Fox

Campbell- by default as sub saying he is our last picked


Not saying someone like Fox is no good , more working backwards who is most expendable , could possibly be upgraded.

I'd drop Lloyd to the lower tier. JMac would be top tier in the form he's in. He was getting games while he was out of form so I'd put him in the top tier, but I get why you have him there.

For me. Wicks is middle tier, verging on top, but I also see why you'd have him there.

I'm impressed with our bottom 6, we've got good depth atm.

 

[S120]

Jake Lloyd

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Jake Lloyd

Age

30

Ht

182cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

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23.4

5star

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14.4

5star

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9.0

5star

M

4.3

4star

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1.9

4star

MG

403.9

5star

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23.4

5star

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14.4

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9.0

4star

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4.3

4star

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1.9

3star

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403.9

5star

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23.2

5star

K

13.4

5star

HB

9.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

357.4

5star

's play has been on the up as a wingman the last 3 weeks or so and yesterday was his best effort yet. Looks like he has already adjusted and settled into the role as expected. Great to see for him but also the team because I don't think his lack of athleticism is workable in defence anymore given the glut of small and hyperathletic pockets and flankers that dominate the game now. I mean, who would we play on in defence this week? A mix of Brent Daniels

16

Brent Daniels

Age

25

Ht

172cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

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Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.9

4star

G

0.4

3star

D

10.3

3star

K

4.3

2star

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6.0

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.9

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

9.0

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

3.0

5star

G

0.8

4star

, Darcy Jones, Harvey Thomas, and Toby Bedford

14

Toby Bedford

Age

23

Ht

179cm

Wt

75kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

3star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

8.0

2star

K

2.0

1star

HB

6.0

4star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.0

1star

. Lloyd's best position moving forward is absolutely on the wing.

 

[DeathlyAccurate]

Heeney is absolutely as smooth as silk. I haven’t seen a Sydney player do the brilliant stuff so effortlessly since Adam Goodes and he deserves a Brownlow medal around his neck but I’d prefer a Norm Smith.

Logan is coming along fine. More than fine. Two belting kicks and a sneaky goal that most big forwards aren’t capable of. He’s so nimble and his confidence will keep growing. His signature is a must, to say the least.

Gulden is almost so good that he can be underrated. Even a regular game from him displays his brilliance and his pinpoint kicks open up so many opportunities to split sides open. That goal he kicked on the run was class. All class.

Second spot and the best percentage by a mile. If we beat the Giants the lid will be in to orbit.


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[caesar88]

Jake Lloyd's play has been on the up as a wingman the last 3 weeks or so and yesterday was his best effort yet. Looks like he has already adjusted and settled into the role as expected. Great to see for him but also the team because I don't think his lack of athleticism is workable in defence anymore given the glut of small and hyperathletic pockets and flankers that dominate the game now. I mean, who would we play on in defence this week? A mix of Brent Daniels, Darcy Jones, Harvey Thomas, and Toby Bedford. Lloyd's best position moving forward is absolutely on the wing.

Always was IMO. Watching him running and carrying yesterday was awesome.

 

[caesar88]

I feel like Sam Mitchell's attitude towards his players getting more aggressive as the game went on didn't help his team.

He started the game with a group that was fully committed but making mistakes and ended it with a group who looked like they barely gave a damn and were still making mistakes.

I'm no coaching expert but just seemed like the totally wrong approach to take with a young side that was having a genuine crack against a team way above them.

 

[The King!]

Jake Lloyd's play has been on the up as a wingman the last 3 weeks or so and yesterday was his best effort yet. Looks like he has already adjusted and settled into the role as expected. Great to see for him but also the team because I don't think his lack of athleticism is workable in defence anymore given the glut of small and hyperathletic pockets and flankers that dominate the game now. I mean, who would we play on in defence this week? A mix of Brent Daniels, Darcy Jones, Harvey Thomas, and Toby Bedford. Lloyd's best position moving forward is absolutely on the wing.

I certainly meant no disrespect not putting him in the top locked in tier of a list

 

[ashep]

Gulden is almost so good that he can be underrated. Even a regular game from him displays his brilliance and his pinpoint kicks open up so many opportunities to split sides open. That goal he kicked on the run was class. All class.

Riewoldt summed it up pretty well. It was an absolute pie off the boot but he's so good it went right through the middle.

 

[BloodySwan]

I feel like Sam Mitchell's attitude towards his players getting more aggressive as the game went on didn't help his team.

He started the game with a group that was fully committed but making mistakes and ended it with a group who looked like they barely gave a damn and were still making mistakes.

I'm no coaching expert but just seemed like the totally wrong approach to take with a young side that was having a genuine crack against a team way above them.

I thought Hawks had the right intensity, just no game plan.

If you could tell me what the Hawks were trying to do I'd be all ears but it looked like they had little structure going forward and no plan for defence

 

[dosser]

Which bridge? The Grandville Bridge?

Ouch

 

[Wolfgang West]

Jake Lloyd's play has been on the up as a wingman the last 3 weeks or so and yesterday was his best effort yet. Looks like he has already adjusted and settled into the role as expected. Great to see for him but also the team because I don't think his lack of athleticism is workable in defence anymore given the glut of small and hyperathletic pockets and flankers that dominate the game now. I mean, who would we play on in defence this week? A mix of Brent Daniels, Darcy Jones, Harvey Thomas, and Toby Bedford. Lloyd's best position moving forward is absolutely on the wing.

That's where he started. He is a great reader of the play so although an advantage Pace is not a prerequisite if you have that gift. Depending on match ups role could work for him. His only downfall in the position could be questionable delivery
inside 50. He has been fine there the last 2 weeks.

 

[S120]

I certainly meant no disrespect not putting him in the top locked in tier of a list

I didn't see your post TBH. Just really enjoyed Lloyd's game.