Prediction Round 4, 2024: Changes vs Sydney

[ziad]

Its a club requirement to be there. Club should pay for it. It's pretty poor imo that he's not there

I can see his family issues and the strong need for him to be home. If its a club requirement why isn't the full list,, (why bother school holidays I guess)

 

[Spooky17]

Surely the club could pay a babysitter/nanny to help?

Fun story from a former board member - The club had a ‘minder’ for Darling when he was first drafted.

 

[squashface]

It’s a club requirement to be there. Club should pay for it. It's pretty poor imo that he's not there

Daresay TK will be one of the few who actually put in a shift this weekend as usual so I think we can allow him a few days to go home and be with his family

 

[Dale Doback]

Gov is too important down back and is our playmaker and works well with Barrass.

Even SOS played forward at times his last few years. Simpson is just too rigid. I'd rather roll the dice and push either Tommy or Gov forward. Rather kick 10 goals and get spanked than 5.

 

[sharps24]

Even SOS played forward at times his last few years. Simpson is just too rigid. I'd rather roll the dice and push either Tommy or Gov forward. Rather kick 10 goals and get spanked than 5.

As did Machintosh, Jackovich, who else... oh yeah Mitch Brown

Seriously though, if the roles were reversed, we were short on KPP backs, and Allen was sitting at full forward- as was the case all last season- would we throw Allen back? No we'd say we need a functioning forward line still and who cares how many goals we concede let's put a score on the board. It's especially stupid because we can easily cover either of Gov or TB at the moment.

But, as an optimist I assume that's why Rotham has gone over and why Gov was talking in his presser about being fine with playing forward if that's what's best for the team.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Fun story from a former board member - The club had a ‘minder’ for Darling when he was first drafted.

And before.

 

[DanWCE]

As did Machintosh, Jackovich, who else... oh yeah Mitch Brown

Seriously though, if the roles were reversed, we were short on KPP backs, and Allen was sitting at full forward- as was the case all last season- would we throw Allen back? No we'd say we need a functioning forward line still and who cares how many goals we concede let's put a score on the board. It's especially stupid because we can easily cover either of Gov or TB at the moment.

But, as an optimist I assume that's why Rotham has gone over and why Gov was talking in his presser about being fine with playing forward if that's what's best for the team.

Mitch Brown played forward? Godfather32 did you know about this??

 

[sharps24]

Mitch Brown played forward? Godfather32 did you know about this??

Hey just because the only time in his entire career that Simmo tried to get creative it was an unmitigated disaster that cost us a certain premiership, doesn't mean he can't try again in 2024.

 

[Shuestar13]

Hey just because the only time in his entire career that Simmo tried to get creative it was an unmitigated disaster that cost us a certain premiership, doesn't mean he can't try again in 2024.

2016? We finished the regular season 6th. We weren’t winning a flag from there.

 

[Spooky17]

And before.

Whilst Darling’s form has fallen off a cliff this year, he’s been a champion of the club for years. A steal at pick 26.

All thanks to that tent

 

[sharps24]

2016? We finished the regular season 6th. We weren’t winning a flag from there.

Fair. I wonder where the eventual premiers won it from.

 

[Godfather32]

Mitch Brown played forward? Godfather32 did you know about this??

 

[Shuestar13]

Fair. I wonder where the eventual premiers won it from.

The eventual premiers won it from 7th yes. With a Semi Final in their home state, Preliminary Final in Sydney (90 min flight) and then the Grand Final in their home state.

That we would be able to travel three weeks in a row to win it is… an interesting idea one would say.

 

[WA footy mad]

Hasn't this club learnt from previous mistakes Duggan on long term deal Nah cant be true media taking the micky.

 

[sharps24]

Drifting away from topic here but to give Simmo some credit 2016 was an interesting year in which I believe Gov trained as a ruck over the summer and was trialed in a few spots including forward due to the returns of McKenzie and Brown and inevitable breakdown of Lycett [and the then inevitable breakdown of Naitanui]. He's thrown the magnets around on occasion. Let's hope they do so again.

 

[Godfather32]

Drifting away from topic here but to give Simmo some credit 2016 was an interesting year in which I believe Gov trained as a ruck over the summer and was trialed in a few spots including forward due to the returns of McKenzie and Brown and inevitable breakdown of Lycett [and the then inevitable breakdown of Naitanui]. He's thrown the magnets around on occasion. Let's hope they do so again.

Nope

 

[squashface]

Yeah 2016 was a funny year, still can’t believe they cancelled the finals series that season.

 

[Dale Doback]

As did Machintosh, Jackovich, who else... oh yeah Mitch Brown

Seriously though, if the roles were reversed, we were short on KPP backs, and Allen was sitting at full forward- as was the case all last season- would we throw Allen back? No we'd say we need a functioning forward line still and who cares how many goals we concede let's put a score on the board. It's especially stupid because we can easily cover either of Gov or TB at the moment.

But, as an optimist I assume that's why Rotham has gone over and why Gov was talking in his presser about being fine with playing forward if that's what's best for the team.

I'd put Gov as equal to Jako, ahead of Macintosh and Glass. And Gov's got a better leg than all of them.

But what's your point? Gov CHB until retirement? Then we fall of a cliff in defence. Shouldn't we be leaving Jamo one out against the key forwards? He's got the reach and he moves well. He might be good. But we won't know until Gov or Tom are out of the calculation.

I thought McKenzie was a crab, but he became elite because he had to fill a hole and we let him fail. He had bags kicked on him. These young blokes need to be allowed to fail, learn, get better.

 

[sharps24]

I'd put Gov as equal to Jako, ahead of Macintosh and Glass. And Gov's got a better leg than all of them.

But what's your point? Gov CHB until retirement? Then we fall of a cliff in defence. Shouldn't we be leaving Jamo one out against the key forwards? He's got the reach and he moves well. He might be good. But we won't know until Gov or Tom are out of the calculation.

I thought McKenzie was a crab, but he became elite because he had to fill a hole and we let him fail. He had bags kicked on him. These young blokes need to be allowed to fail, learn, get better.

I actually rate Macintosh as the best defender we've ever had and probably the bloke who could most easily play in any era. 11 second 100m and 80+ metre drop punt, strongest man Carey ever played on according to Carey. [though that might of just been trowing shade on Jackovich]

My original point was just that Gov should move forward until Oscar is back. And that Jamison, Barrass and one of Edwards/Rotham are more than adequate for the purpose of manning the various KPF's we cross paths with.

 

[Dale Doback]

I actually rate Macintosh as the best defender we've ever had and probably the bloke who could most easily play in any era. 11 second 100m and 80+ metre drop punt, strongest man Carey ever played on according to Carey. [though that might of just been trowing shade on Jackovich]

My original point was just that Gov should move forward until Oscar is back. And that Jamison, Barrass and one of Edwards/Rotham are more than adequate for the purpose of manning the various KPF's we cross paths with.

Mate you're dreaming if you've got Macintosh at the top of West Coasts key defender pyramid ahead of Jako & Gov. And I loved Macintosh.

 

[sharps24]

Mate you're dreaming if you've got Macintosh at the top of West Coasts key defender pyramid ahead of Jako & Gov. And I loved Macintosh.

He was a better full back than both of them for sure. Depends how you want to define a defender and what you want to value. Each quite different to the other in my book, hard to compare. Who do you pick if you had to clone one of them and play them in all 4 KPP positions?

I'll rule Jako out because he's not fast enough and not a good enough kick to play FF and maybe would struggle at FB.

I think Gov could play FF, CHF, CHB but not sure how he goes at FB either.

Macintosh I think could play well at FB, FF, CHB but not sure how he'd go at CHF.

Dunno, got a feeling combination of speed, strength, skills maybe the moneyball pick is Macintosh.

Anyway, I think we should play them all against Sydney this week for sure.

 

[ziad]

I actually rate Macintosh as the best defender we've ever had and probably the bloke who could most easily play in any era. 11 second 100m and 80+ metre drop punt, strongest man Carey ever played on according to Carey. [though that might of just been trowing shade on Jackovich]

My original point was just that Gov should move forward until Oscar is back. And that Jamison, Barrass and one of Edwards/Rotham are more than adequate for the purpose of manning the various KPF's we cross paths with.

In a Prelim GOD played on around Macintosh standing on the mark and Macintosh ran him down - on the road to aGF spot. He was outstanding.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

It's McIntosh and Jakovich ffs

 

[swingdog]

Just to add to a s**t year, we're currently training at the Home of Shitness, Arden Street:



Although, it may be a cunning ploy to show that we really deserve a PP.

 

[Goroyals22]

I actually rate Macintosh as the best defender we've ever had and probably the bloke who could most easily play in any era. 11 second 100m and 80+ metre drop punt, strongest man Carey ever played on according to Carey. [though that might of just been trowing shade on Jackovich]

My original point was just that Gov should move forward until Oscar is back. And that Jamison, Barrass and one of Edwards/Rotham are more than adequate for the purpose of manning the various KPF's we cross paths with.

If only McIntosh’s knees didn’t end up so bad he could barely move after 3 games each year.. rated him higher as a defender than silvagni..


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