Review Cats down Blues by 13 points.

[winty]

Hawkins has dropped off considerably this year. He's still useful rucking in the forward line and he is a great set shot. However, recently he has had games where he was like a fish out of water. Goal kicking is irrelevant if you are never near the ball. He has looked very frustrated with himself this year. Today was not one of those games but he certainly didn't trouble the scoreboard. I think we will see Shannon Neale getting more games.

He's still taking a quality defender though, which allows others to shine. If we were without Hawkins today for example, Weitering would've gone to Cameron and possibly blanketed him.

Like others have said, we only looked for Hawkins deep forward 4 times today, yet we still kicked 18 goals.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

He's still taking a quality defender though, which allows others to shine. If we were without Hawkins today for example, Weitering would've gone to Cameron and possibly blanketed him.

Like others have said, we only looked for Hawkins deep forward 4 times today, yet we still kicked 18 goals.

Too right! Tommy held means Jezza gets off the chain. Jezza AND Hawkins quiet the week before means our 'mosquito fleet' of small forwards ran amok. Can every opposition team have every possible contingency against us?

 

[Heckler]

Stanley will 99% get smashed by Gawn.
Conway will 91% get smashed by Gawn.

Pick your poison.

Cats don't have to beat Gawn
Instead plan to negate his influence.
Don't wrestle... take his run
Spoil his hitouts from behind
Stand near defensive side of all mids
Start wing at CHB defensive position
Play Conway for learning lesson
Conway run forward as marking option

 

[bombersboy]

This has been hugely misrepresented. He didn’t pull out. The Blues player was going to get to the ball first so Dempsey slowed down to avoid giving away a free kick.

He is a kid and has only played a handful of games but he slowed down to avoid contact.

 

[BlakeyNoFlakey]

Yes, I suspect the Coaching group knows where Hawkins is better than we do, but he's performing a role that lets others have a go. TBone will get a game where it goes his way, and he kicks a bag.

 

[Pivo]

Winning games of footy is good.

Pissing off opposition supporters because we keep winning games of footy is better.

 

[feelinfeline]

Cameron Ling took it to an extreme. He was gushing about opposition teams and the first to suggest a Geelong player might be in trouble for a dangerous tackle. It was reverse bias in the extreme. There were so many complaints that he no longer comments on games.

Really? Channel 7 sacked him because of complaints by Geelong fans? Hard to believe!

Anyway, you can still hear him in ABC radio. A great man.

 

[BUSTER29]

Conway isn't ready for that kind of match up.

Stanley was borderline pathetic today

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[terry_bright]

He's still taking a quality defender though, which allows others to shine. If we were without Hawkins today for example, Weitering would've gone to Cameron and possibly blanketed him.

Like others have said, we only looked for Hawkins deep forward 4 times today, yet we still kicked 18 goals.

Wietering has had Hawk's number on the last few ocassion's and it seemed pretty clear part of gameplan was for Hawk to try and keep him away from the contest and limit his influence.
Did it work? Probably not but it a selfless role from Hawk.
Hawk did have an influence at boundary throw in's though.

 

[JohnZ]

When i have heard Ling on radio he is usually very good but on tv was horrendous

Could say this across the board. Radio commentary is leagues better because they have to describe whats happening which leaves less empty spaces for stupid comments. Even BT and JB on MMM are miles better than on 7.

Honestly think the TV broadcasts are over produced which leads to a substandard product.

 

[Live in hope]

Gerard Whateley has had a massive boner for Carlton all year. Cats getting ignored.


Reminds me of Eng and Aus in cricket. One has moral victories, excuses, and a lot of huff in the media. The other quietly gets results.

Not sure about his calling bias, but I seem to recall that Gerard is a Cats supporter.

 

[CoreyJoel]

He is a kid and has only played a handful of games but he slowed down to avoid contact.

Agree

 

[Vivy]

He's still taking a quality defender though, which allows others to shine. If we were without Hawkins today for example, Weitering would've gone to Cameron and possibly blanketed him.

Like others have said, we only looked for Hawkins deep forward 4 times today, yet we still kicked 18 goals.

I understand the point which is valid. However I think Jez tows him around like a caravan and is the sole reason we win the game if that happens. Weitering is there as much for structure as he is for the matchup in my opinion.

He's got nowhere near the tank or pace to keep up with Cameron

 

[kickazz]

Not sure about his calling bias, but I seem to recall that Gerard is a Cats supporter.

Yeah I know that. But you need to listen to him on a Monday morning.

It's sickening

 

[BigCat1]

I’m now officially worried about Hawk. He is nowhere near the player of the last few years. Like not even close if your watch closely .

 

[iameviljez]

Gerard Whateley has had a massive boner for Carlton all year. Cats getting ignored.


Reminds me of Eng and Aus in cricket. One has moral victories, excuses, and a lot of huff in the media. The other quietly gets results.

Whateley is a mad, Anthony Hudson-level Cats tragic.

 

[Vivy]

Yeah I know that. But you need to listen to him on a Monday morning.

It's sickening

I understand why he does it. He might not need to make out as if his support of Geelong's a silent disease he's coping with though.

 

[Finknottle]

He's still taking a quality defender though, which allows others to shine. If we were without Hawkins today for example, Weitering would've gone to Cameron and possibly blanketed him.

Like others have said, we only looked for Hawkins deep forward 4 times today, yet we still kicked 18 goals.

So why not replace Hawkins with a forward who they might want to kick too. Recently the best part of Tomahawk's game has been his forward ruckwork. However he is in the team to kick goals, not just to be a decoy. 3 very poor games in a row. We have been winning games despite his poor form. While we are winning we can afford to carry him. At some stage he will need to start contributing or it sets a bad precedent for younger players.

 

[kickazz]

I’m now officially worried about Hawk. He is nowhere near the player of the last few years. Like not even close if your watch closely .

Looked really proppy in the Bulldogs game. Back issues?

 

[kickazz]

Hawkins was valuable in some forward half ruck contests

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I understand the point which is valid. However I think Jez tows him around like a caravan and is the sole reason we win the game if that happens. Weitering is there as much for structure as he is for the matchup in my opinion.

He's got nowhere near the tank or pace to keep up with Cameron

Neale vs Weitering in a running race

 

[David the Cat]

I think people should cut Dempsey a little slack.....

At quarter time he was close to BOG.....

He's young and still raw but the potential is clear to see. He is going to be a fine player for us over a long period.

 

[kickazz]

I understand why he does it. He might not need to make out as if his support of Geelong's a silent disease he's coping with though.

GWS, Sydney, * even Essendon. Plenty of options other than the paper bag flag stealing scumbags.

 

[you pick one]

Carlton had more kicks, marks, handballs, hit-outs, contested possessions, metres gained, inside 50s, tackles inside 50s and scoring shots, yet still lost.

As well as free kicks

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Stanley got balted by a second string ruck. It's not really much of a risk. I'd back him in.

Parfitt particularly disappointing. With him finally getting regular games you'd hope he'd have shown a lot more vigor.

To me stanley is the defensive option. He wont beat gawn but he should do ok. Whereas conway could have an out of the box game and really beat gawn or he could get annilhated. In particular if conway tires after half time (which is likely given his tank) gawn could take over and win them the game. I think our forward line beats theirs but i worry about their mids so i would go the defensive option as i think a kid vs gawn is more risky. But i can see your argument.

Parfitt i thought tried hard vigour wise but he was back to blind turns into trouble and not as much first option and moving the ball to running teammates that hes been so good at the last month. I think atkins gives us much more direct run out of stoppages plus he has a second position (hbf) that parfitt doesnt have so i prefer him if its a 50-50 call.