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If it's a Ford v Lazz question I'm taking Ford every day of the week and twice on Sundays
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I'd rather delist contracted plodders like Stephenson or Tucker before moving on Fordy.
Well that's a separate issue isn't it. So many of our poorest performers are on long term contracts.
It really ties our hands behind our backs with options.
Based on Blightys Barrel post (that I suspect will get merged into here;
The players out of contract at the end of this year
If you read Rick18's piece this week, he talks about a lack of trust. When the list turns over so much year after year, it's hard to build that trust, that synergy between players, that builds a cohesive football side. Listen to people talk about what makes a successful club and you'll pretty quickly hear the word "stability". That's not just in admin and coaching, it has to be in the playing group as well.Here's the thing; our list is bad. I think most rational fans agree with this sentiment, given the evidence at hand.
As I said in another thread a few days ago, I think North fans have a duality where we understand our list is bad, but when it comes to talking about our individual players we have a tendency to over-rate them due to our emotional attachment.
The fact is, as I see it; Ford and Lazzaro, for better or worse, are probably among the last guys selected in the 22 each week. They bounce between the sub role, and have both had good patches of footy, and patches where they go absolutely missing.
IF we're going to get better, we need to upgrade the bottom players on our list. I have Ford and Lazzaro both in that category.
As per his player thread, LDU has parked contract talks.
As per his player thread, LDU has parked contract talks.
The talk around was that the Saints were into him.
With his attack on the footy, his lack of gut running, his soft attempts to tackle and his inability to defend he’d last about 2 minutes with Ross Lyon.
Okay so Nostra in charge of drafting and Chadwiko in charge of list management, problem sorted.
If we’ve used our assistance quota, perhaps a first rounder for Zurhaar might be a way to slyly assist the rebuild without seeming too overt with more priority picks.OOC Players:
Bailey Scott - 2 yr deal
Will Phillips - 2 yr deal
Brayden George - 1/2 yr deal
Charlie Lazzaro - 1 yr deal
Cooper Harvey - 1 yr deal
Finnbar Maley - 1 yr deal (rookie)
Eddie Ford - 1/2 yr deal
Blake Drury - 1 yr deal (rookie)
Kallan Dawson - 1 yr deal (rookie)
Tyler Sellers - 1 yr deal (rookie)
Jackson Archer - Re-list as a rookie (rookie)
Hugh Greenwood - delist
Curtis Taylor - delist
Cam Zurhaar - Leaves RFA - 2nd round compo (diluted because we pick up other FA's)
Liam Shiels - delist
Tarryn Thomas - delisted
Toby Pink - delist
Hamish Free - delist (rookie)
RJH - delist.
I've got no idea who is a rookie and who is primary listed anymore but that would leave us with 8 list spots.
Pick up Brandon Parfitt and Isaac Cumming or Blake Hardwick Free Agents.
Take 4 picks to the ND, 1 to the rookie draft then take the best available delisted free agent for the last spot.
If we ended up with more higher end picks or got more trade targets I'd happily delist Biggie too (who I'm pretty sure only signed a 1 yr deal), CCJ, Stephenson or Corr. There is plenty of available dead weight we can trim
No brainer if it's a salary dump. Least he can take a pack mark.Forward - As much as I hate to say it I think Lobb is the best option. He’ll be cheap, fills that ruck forward option and can give Larkey some support.
Why would you trade or delist Harvey that’s ridiculousThere are a few in the list above that really have to play some games to determine their future. Even then they might not make it but unless there's a very sound reason to keep an untried OOC player then cut the losses and create a list spot to bring in someone with more experience if that option presents.
- Cooper Harvey - trade or delist
- Curtis Taylor - trade or delist
- Charlie Lazzaro - extend
- Brayden George - has to play
- Blake Drury - possibly extend
- Bailey Scott - extend
- Tony Pink - possibly extend
- Will Phillips - extend
- Tyler Sellers - possibly delist
- Robert Hansen Jr - possibly delist
- Liam Shiels - retire
- Kallan Dawson - extend
- Jackson Archer - possibly extend
- Hugh Greenwood - retire
- Hamish Free - has to play
- Finnbar Maley - has to play
- Eddie Ford - extend
- Cameron Zurhaar - extend (RFA)
Those with the possibly extend comment would need to lift and establish themselves as being better than any on-market player to get another year.
Those with the possibly delist comment would not be extended if there's a better player available that fills a need and is willing to put pen to paper.
Why would you trade or delist Harvey that’s ridiculousThere are a few in the list above that really have to play some games to determine their future. Even then they might not make it but unless there's a very sound reason to keep an untried OOC player then cut the losses and create a list spot to bring in someone with more experience if that option presents.
- Cooper Harvey - trade or delist
- Curtis Taylor - trade or delist
- Charlie Lazzaro - extend
- Brayden George - has to play
- Blake Drury - possibly extend
- Bailey Scott - extend
- Tony Pink - possibly extend
- Will Phillips - extend
- Tyler Sellers - possibly delist
- Robert Hansen Jr - possibly delist
- Liam Shiels - retire
- Kallan Dawson - extend
- Jackson Archer - possibly extend
- Hugh Greenwood - retire
- Hamish Free - has to play
- Finnbar Maley - has to play
- Eddie Ford - extend
- Cameron Zurhaar - extend (RFA)
Those with the possibly extend comment would need to lift and establish themselves as being better than any on-market player to get another year.
Those with the possibly delist comment would not be extended if there's a better player available that fills a need and is willing to put pen to paper.
This would be his 6th club if he came to us right?No brainer if it's a salary dump. Least he can take a pack mark.