Coach Luke Beveridge & the Dogs - is his time up? Where are they at?

[adogsfan5]

Don’t forget Rutten’s career, Worsfold’s career, <cough> Hird’s career <cough>, Knights’ career,…

Nothing else matters after a win.. not even constant mediocrity

 

[Leon]

prem coach. has tix in the bank

The tix in the bank from the premiership expired a long time ago.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

I think they’re probably ripe for a quick mini-rebuild.

I’d say they have a lot of players who could do with a change and probably have a bit of value, so can be converted to something at the trade table.

Obviously Bont is a megastar and although Libba is starting to get on, he is of course a gun and solid citizen so you wouldn’t get rid of him.

Ugle Hagan is a star

Darcy looks the goods so if English goes, it might not be the end of the world given what you will get in return.

Some smart trades and picks - Collingwood is probably the model - and a new hungry coach, and they could be very good once again very quickly. They’ve got some big pieces locked down and some reasonable trade currency outside of that.

 

[fnerd]

Yeah if bulldogs heirachy play it right they could be challenging again pretty soon with a few of their current gun players but surrounded by an array of new upcoming talent

McRae/smith/daniel/lobb should all be on the table ,no beating around , get the best deal possible with each and move on.

Busslinger could go too but it’ll depend on who they can bring in /if the new coach goes with naughton back

English could go either way but probably best to keep if they can , especially with a new coach

Which leads to the dogs no 1 priority right now-none of the above really matters until they heck bevo off first and foremost .
The blokes absolutely cooked in terms of coaching .
Like shouldn’t bet let near a coaches box again type of cooked

 

[danster168]

There needs to be accountability whether it be the recruiting team or the coach or the players. No other team has been so kissed with father/sons and NGA picks yet they still can't make anything of it. With the amount of free looks and draft free hits they should've won a couple of flags by now. That's just the reality. In terms of Beveridge, ever since his unhinged blow up at Tom Morris it was pretty clear that the guy is emotionally immature and shouldn't be the leader of a list of 40-odd AFL players. Time to move him on.

I stand by everything I said last season. I think Bevo just can't read the room. He should be playing Sanders as a full time mid, Bont also.

 

[FreoRicci]

Surely should’ve been sacked after the loss v West Coast last season, then missed finals.
Crazy the board rates him so highly.

 

[matthew_s]

not sure where else to put this but:



how the heck can they claim Libba just tripped?

 

[Atomboy]

If the Dogs are also in No Man’s Land then I will be seriously pissed, that’s our turf.

 

[MF]

How many times have the dogs finished top 4 under him?

 

[mattwa]

How many times have the dogs finished top 4 under him?

0

 

[MisterMarcus]

He reminds me a bit of the Neil Craig "Crowbot" era at Adelaide.

Not a bad coach per se....but just very one dimensional and "We Must Do The Same Thing No Matter What" in his approach, with apparently limited scope to react and shake things up when they're not working.

 

[rapidfire7]

Say what you want about Ross, but this lot would be markedly better under his tutelage. The Bulldogs under Bevo have always lacked proper structure and discipline, which is obviously a coaching issue. At this point, it's worth taking a punt on just about anyone.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Bulldogs admin can't afford to just let another season slip by

 

[jakson68]

The Doggies have too much talent to be this poor.

Last night they just looked clueless and rattled.
No offence Bombers but Essendon are not a good enough team to make another team look that bad.

Any team can win on their day, I get that.
Though there were times last night where the dogs looked amateurish and that was the alarming part.

 

[JackFlash]

They were shocking in the 2nd half, almost witches hats like. Beveridge is a classic case of a coach who has lost the players. If that isn't the answer then the coaching panel itself has created a divide somewhere along the line. Their season is over.

 

[PiesUserName]

I think he needs to be moved on. He has been given more leeway for what he did in 2016 and rightfully so, but I think that this extension has run out.

I look at the dogs list and I think they have one of the best lists in the comp looking at it on face value but they have continually underperformed for years, strange selections etc.

With what they have, they should be thinking about premierships

 

[evo]

Yes

 

[burge13]

Putting guys as the sub when 17 other clubs would take them is an interesting approach.

Dale is better than 8-9 blokes picked last night...

JUH and Naughton keep getting labelled as stars but they dont win games.

I hope they keep Bevo a few more years though

 

[Mofra]

The 2 year extension at the start of last year probably saved him for this year - no way he would have survived the West Coast loss last year otherwise.

He's arguably the greatest coach we've had in the VFL era, but right now he just seems stale. I'm not sure he sees out the year because last night was as close to a 'coach killer' game as you can get. Fans can forgive a loss if the team shows spirit but last night was imply listless.

 

[Orange crush]

Bevo isn’t getting the best out of his players and then hopes they’ll improve by playing them sub …. An interesting strategy

 

[CarnTheScray]

The 2 year extension at the start of last year probably saved him for this year - no way he would have survived the West Coast loss last year otherwise.

He's arguably the greatest coach we've had in the VFL era, but right now he just seems stale. I'm not sure he sees out the year because last night was as close to a 'coach killer' game as you can get. Fans can forgive a loss if the team shows spirit but last night was imply listless.

I’m not trying to have a go but I seriously hate the statement that he is our best coach ever, with some suggesting (not you) he should be given leeway because of it. Do people forget how terrible we were for so long, being our best coach ever, despite winning a premiership and making another grand final that is not exactly the pinnacle of achievements in this competition. Winning a flag will always have unexplainable value especially a drought breaking but we can’t justify him being the coach any longer.

Sorry for the rant. That statement just makes me feel like the ambition of a Collingwood supporter stuck inside the body of a Bulldog. Forced to accept mediocrity.

 

[WillHayward]

This is a clear case of a bloke digging in in the hope he can turn it around when really he just needs to walk or be walked out .

I'll never understand why he insists playing Naughton fwd when Naughton could ba a star defender.

 

[The 747]

The Doggies have too much talent to be this poor.

Last night they just looked clueless and rattled.
No offence Bombers but Essendon are not a good enough team to make another team look that bad.

Any team can win on their day, I get that.
Though there were times last night where the dogs looked amateurish and that was the alarming part.

Off the top of my head they have:

The most consistent top player in the game
A very good mobile ruck
The most promising KPF in the game
The most promising ruck forward in the game
A crash and bash CHF of good quality
Libba, Treloar (with a Pies paid discount), Jones, Weightman, West (this season), a few others I have forgotten
Some pretty decent young defenders now

And they are constantly around 50% W/L.

 

[Plugger35]

Bevo is getting exposed now that the Dogs are no longer getting their magic carpet ride from the umpires.

On top of that he makes some baffling decisions like subbing out Sanders last night when he was one of their better players.

With the list the Dogs have they should be performing better than they are and the buck stops with the coach in terms of team performance.

 

[pluggeranddoc]

not sure where else to put this but:



how the * can they claim Libba just tripped?

The same way players have "mental health" breaks!
Wonder if he was drug tested?