Under Age 2025 AFL Draft General Discussion

[Lore]

The 2023 AFL National Development Championships – U16 Boys will begin with a clash between Victoria Country and Victoria Metro on Saturday, June 10 during the King’s Birthday weekend in Victoria.

The first round of fixtures will be played across four states, before all ten teams converge on the Gold Coast where the final two rounds will be played from July 3 to July 7.

The 2023 AFL National Championships – U18 Girls will again feature six teams. Queensland, South Australia, Victoria Country, Victoria Metro and Western Australia will all field teams, along with the Allies, which will comprise players from New South Wales, ACT, Northern Territory and Tasmania.

2023 AFL National Development Championships – U16 Boys​

Teams: Brisbane Lions, Gold Coast Suns, GWS Giants, Northern Territory, South Australia, Victoria Country, Victoria Metro, Sydney Swans Academy, Tasmania and Western Australia

DATE	HOME TEAM	AWAY TEAM	VENUE
Sat, June 10	Victoria Country	Victoria Metro	IKON Park, VIC
Sat, June 17	GWS GIANTS Academy	Sydney Swans Academy	Blacktown Int. Sportspark, NSW
Sat, June 24	Northern Territory	Tasmania	Highgate Rec. Reserve, VIC
Sun, June 25	Western Australia	South Australia	TBC, WA
Sun, June 25	Brisbane Lions	GC SUNS Academy	Brighton Homes Arena, QLD
Mon, July 3	GC SUNS Academy	Tasmania	Heritage Bank Stadium, QLD
Mon, July 3	GWS GIANTS Academy	Northern Territory	Heritage Bank Stadium, QLD
Mon, July 3	Brisbane Lions	Sydney Swans	Heritage Bank Stadium, QLD
Tue, July 4	Victoria Metro	Western Australia	Heritage Bank Stadium, QLD
Tue, July 4	Victoria Country	South Australia	Heritage Bank Stadium, QLD
Thu, July 6	Tasmania	GWS GIANTS Academy	Fankhauser Reserve, QLD
Thu, July 6	GC SUNS Academy	Sydney Swans Academy	Fankhauser Reserve, QLD
Thu, July 6	Northern Territory	Brisbane Lions Academy	Fankhauser Reserve, QLD
Fri, July 7	South Australia	Victoria Metro	Fankhauser Reserve, QLD
Fri, July 7	Western Australia	Victoria Country	Fankhauser Reserve, QLD

2023 AFL National Championships: U18, U16 fixtures released

The AFL has released the schedule for this year's U18 and U16 National Championships

www.afl.com.au

 

[briztoon]

This time next year, we'll have a bunch of this crop playing in the Future's Game.

I'll bookmark your first 2025 rankings Davo and see where we're at when the players are announced/revealed.

I’ll be gutted if there isn’t 5 Lions academy kids playing in the game.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Should be a cracker. It's hard to fathom that Sharp is still in year 10...

Crazy huh.

He looks like how a 16 year old looked when I was in prep.

Not how a 16 year old does now.

 

[Davo-27]

Should be a cracker. It's hard to fathom that Sharp is still in year 10...

from what i have seen so far of this group its a real toss up between Dyson Sharp and Oliver Greeves as to who is number 1 pick, both are extremely good talents imo.

 

[Davo-27]

This time next year, we'll have a bunch of this crop playing in the Future's Game.

I'll bookmark your first 2025 rankings Davo and see where we're at when the players are announced/revealed.

I’ll be gutted if there isn’t 5 Lions academy kids playing in the game.

Update (added 10 extra players and Cooper Duff-Tytler because i under rate tall defenders), a very early top 40 as a guide, more players will be added as i get to see more talent in this draft pool

Early top 40 for 2025 draft based on u16s and CTL form

1. Dyson Sharp 188cm Central Dist
2. Oliver Greeves 190cm Eastern
3. Blake Kelly 180cm Swan Dist
4. Archie Ludowyke 193cm Sandringham (kpf with hops)
5. Lachlan Dovaston 175cm Eastern
6. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier 182cm Nth Adel
7. Louis Emmett 198cm Oakleigh (ruck/forw)
8. Marcus Cassidy 186cm Est Perth
9. Jack Dalton 176cm Sandringham
10. Noah Roberts-Thompson 180cm Sturt
11. Cooper Duff-Tytler 198cm VM (kpd)
12. Tairon Ah-Mu 199cm Dandenong (ruck)
13. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves 185cm Dandenong
14. Harry Morphet 175cm Geelong ...(broke his leg at champs)
15. Basil Hart 183cm Peel
16. Riley Onley 194cm Murray (mobile tall)
17. Xavier Bamert 184cm Sandringham
18. Aidan Schubert 194cm Central Dist (kpf)
19. Jadd Hill 176cm Perth
20. Dylan Patterson 183cm GCS A
21. Judd Marcello 189cm Wst Perth
22. Giuseppe Posterino 175cm Geelong
23. Jamie Gilchrist 185cm Eastern
24. Zeke Uwland 176cm GCS A
25. Raphael Geesu 175cm Bris A
26. Toby Whan 180cm Sth Fremantle
27. Jobe Scapin 186cm Gippsland
28. Mitchell Moate 180cm Northern
29. Jim Kelly 178cm Norwood
30. Zach O'Keefe 176cm Gippsland
31. Jack Harrison 183cm Bris A
32. Willem Duursma 189cm Gipps
33. Taj Longmuir 179cm Sth Frem
34. Sam Grij 178cm Oakleigh
35. Darcy Montgomery 180cm Subiaco
36. Thomas McGuane 176cm Western
37. Louis Kellaway 182cm Sturt
38. Jevan Phillipou 180cm WWT (reputation)
39. Will York 172cm Peel
40. Daniel Annabel 183cm Bris A

 

[RedmanWasHere]

4. Archie Ludowyke 193cm Sandringham (kpf with hops)

Doesn't he ever.

This photo probably makes it look better than it was.

 

[briztoon]

Update (added 10 extra players and Cooper Duff-Tytler because i under rate tall defenders), a very early top 40 as a guide, more players will be added as i get to see more talent in this draft pool

Early top 40 for 2025 draft based on u16s and CTL form

1. Dyson Sharp 188cm Central Dist
2. Oliver Greeves 190cm Eastern
3. Blake Kelly 180cm Swan Dist
4. Archie Ludowyke 193cm Sandringham (kpf with hops)
5. Lachlan Dovaston 175cm Eastern
6. Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier 182cm Nth Adel
7. Louis Emmett 198cm Oakleigh (ruck/forw)
8. Marcus Cassidy 186cm Est Perth
9. Jack Dalton 176cm Sandringham
10. Noah Roberts-Thompson 180cm Sturt
11. Cooper Duff-Tytler 198cm VM (kpd)
12. Tairon Ah-Mu 199cm Dandenong (ruck)
13. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves 185cm Dandenong
14. Harry Morphet 175cm Geelong ...(broke his leg at champs)
15. Basil Hart 183cm Peel
16. Riley Onley 194cm Murray (mobile tall)
17. Xavier Bamert 184cm Sandringham
18. Aidan Schubert 194cm Central Dist (kpf)
19. Jadd Hill 176cm Perth
20. Dylan Patterson 183cm GCS A
21. Judd Marcello 189cm Wst Perth
22. Giuseppe Posterino 175cm Geelong
23. Jamie Gilchrist 185cm Eastern
24. Zeke Uwland 176cm GCS A
25. Raphael Geesu 175cm Bris A
26. Toby Whan 180cm Sth Fremantle
27. Jobe Scapin 186cm Gippsland
28. Mitchell Moate 180cm Northern
29. Jim Kelly 178cm Norwood
30. Zach O'Keefe 176cm Gippsland
31. Jack Harrison 183cm Bris A
32. Willem Duursma 189cm Gipps
33. Taj Longmuir 179cm Sth Frem
34. Sam Grij 178cm Oakleigh
35. Darcy Montgomery 180cm Subiaco
36. Thomas McGuane 176cm Western
37. Louis Kellaway 182cm Sturt
38. Jevan Phillipou 180cm WWT (reputation)
39. Will York 172cm Peel
40. Daniel Annabel 183cm Bris A

Need more Lions.

Also missing a couple of really talented GC academy kids while you’re at it.

 

[Haggas]

Need more Lions.

Also missing a couple of really talented GC academy kids while you’re at it.

Geez you Lions fans are greedy you’re in a GF today ffs

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Haggas.

What's your 2025 list looking like?

 

[Haggas]

Here’s my rough one but haven’t updated it for awhile

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Here’s my rough one but haven’t updated it for awhile

I noticed Ben Rongdit in there, he's Geelong NGA.

 

[markm106]

Where do people rank Kalani White at this point? AA CHB and standing at 197cm still growing.

 

[Haggas]

Where do people rank Kalani White at this point? AA CHB and standing at 197cm still growing.

I’ve got him in my spreadsheet as a possible riser but not in my top 50 at the moment

 

[markm106]

I’ve got him in my spreadsheet as a possible riser but not in my top 50 at the moment

Thanks mate.

 

[Haggas]

Thanks mate.

But I’m no expert by any means so take my opinion with a grain of salt haha

 

[exxcessivve]

I'm pretty sure, but not certain Willem Duursma is an U16 this year

Wtf, so that family has
Willem
Xavier
Yasmin
Zane

I’m expecting a Vivian soon.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

This time next year, we'll have an understanding as to who the next 17 year old is that Twomey can't get enough of.

My tips:

Jamie Gilchrist.
Ollie Greeves.
Cooper Duff-Tytler.

 

[briztoon]

This time next year, we'll have an understanding as to who the next 17 year old is that Twomey can't get enough of.

My tips:

Jamie Gilchrist.
Ollie Greeves.
Cooper Duff-Tytler.

Does he have a 2024 favourite yet. Can’t say I’ve heard him gushing over one yet.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Does he have a 2024 favourite yet. Can’t say I’ve heard him gushing over one yet.

Come to think of it, I haven't read or heard anything yet.

This time last year, he was big on Watson.

 

[Miller1971]

Where do people rank Kalani White at this point? AA CHB and standing at 197cm still growing.

if his surname wasn't White, he would be well off the radar. (but still in discussions, but his game is pretty limited)

 

[markm106]

if his surname wasn't White, he would be well off the radar. (but still in discussions, but his game is pretty limited)

Interesting. Do you think he got AA due to name or not much competition at U16 level? I haven’t seen him play other than highlights. But seems to be able to play forward and back. Ruck I guess at his height too. Although has been key position from what I’ve seen.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Haggas.

Might seem ridiculous but what about a 3 round 2025 mock draft from you here based on your 2024 ladder predictions?

 

[Haggas]

Haggas.

Might seem ridiculous but what about a 3 round 2025 mock draft from you here based on your 2024 ladder predictions?

I just did 2024 based on this years ladder

 

[RedmanWasHere]

I just did 2024 based on this years ladder

That's what inspired me to make the suggestion.

 

[Haggas]

I just did 2024 based on this years ladder

Il try predict it haha and il send it tomorrow just about to go out

 

[Haggas]

Haggas.

Might seem ridiculous but what about a 3 round 2025 mock draft from you here based on your 2024 ladder predictions?

RANKING		NAME	POSITION	DOB	HEIGHT/WEIGHT	CLUB	AFF	AFF 2
1	West Coast	Dyson Sharp	Midfielder/ Defender	23/5/07	188cm/77kg	Central District/South Australia
2	Richmond	Oliver Greeves	Midfielder/Forward	7/2/07	190cm	Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
3	Fremantle	Blake Kelly	Midfielder	3/1/07	182cm/80kg	Swan Districts/Western Australia
4	North Melbourne	Willem Duursma	Utility	21/6/07	189cm	Gippsland Power/Vic Country
5	Geelong	Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier	Midfielder/Forward	11/4/07	182cm/72kg	North Adelaide/South Australia
6	Hawthorn	Louis Emmett	Ruck	23/3/07	198cm	Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
7	St.Kilda	Marcus Cassidy	Midfielder	5/1/07	187cm/82kg	East Perth/Western Australia
8	W.Bulldogs	Lachy Dovaston	Wing	29/5/07	175cm	Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
9	Essendon	Jack Dalton	Midfielder	5/4/07	176cm	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
10	Gold Coast	Basil Hart	Forward	15/1/07	183cm	Peel Thunder/Western Australia	FREM
11	Melbourne	Jamie Gilchrist	Midfielder/Forward	3/2/07	185cm	Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro
12	Port Adelaide	Noah Roberts-Thomson	Midfielder	29/3/07	180cm	Sturt/South Australia
13	Collingwood	Archie Ludowyke	Key Forward	19/11/07	193cm	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
14	GWS Giants	Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves	Midfielder	16/11/07	185cm	Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
15	Sydney	Tairon Ah-Mu	Ruckman	6/1/07	199cm	Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country
16	Brisbane	Cooper Duff-Tytler	Ruck	22/8/07	198cm	Calder Cannons/Vic Metro
17	Carlton	Harry Morphet	Midfielder	8/1/07	175cm	Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
18	West Coast	Xavier Bamert	Midfielder	29/1/07	184cm	Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro
19	Richmond	Riley Onley	Midfielder	30/3/07	194cm	Murray Bushrangers/Vic Country
20	Fremantle	Aidan Schubert	Ruck/Forward	21/12/07	194cm	Central District/South Australia
21	North Melbourne	Mitchell Moate	Midfielder/Forward	4/9/07	180cm	Northern Knights/Vic Metro
22	Geelong	Giuseppe Posterino	Small Forward	12/2/07	175cm	Geelong Falcons/Vic Country
23	Hawthorn	Toby Whan	Wing	9/5/07	180cm/70kg	South Fremantle/Western Australia
24	St.Kilda	Jake Boniwell	Key Forward	8/5/07	190cm/90kg	East Fremantle/Western Australia
25	Gold Coast (Academy)	Dylan Patterson	Wing	1/9/07	183cm	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
26	W.Bulldogs	Jim Kelly	Midfielder	16/2/07	178cm	Norwood/South Australia
27	Gold Coast (Academy)	Zeke Uwland	Defender	24/4/07	177cm/69kg	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
28	Essendon	Judd Marcello	Forward	2/1/07	188cm/76kg	West Perth/Western Australia
29	Melbourne	Jadd Hill	Midfielder	27/1/07	176cm/79kg	Perth/Western Australia
30	Gold Coast (Academy)	Jai Murray	Midfielder/Forward	9/3/07	184cm	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
31	Port Adelaide	Samuel Cumming	Midfielder	27/7/07	186cm	North Adelaide/South Australia
32	Collingwood	Jobe Scapin	Defender/Forward	1/5/07	186cm	Gippsland Power/Vic Country
33	Sydney	Thomas Burton	Midfielder	9/1/07	176cm	Western Jets/Vic Metro
34	Brisbane	Luke Candy	Defender	16/5/07	183cm	Glenelg/South Australia
35	Gold Coast (Academy)	Beau Addinsall	Midfielder/Forward	9/3/07	179cm	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC
36	Carlton	Jevan Phillipou	Midfielder/Forward	30/3/07	180cm	Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia
37	Geelong (NGA)	Ben Rongdit	Defender	10/5/07	183cm	Geelong Falcons/Vic Country	GEEL
38	West Coast	Zachary O'Keefe	Midfielder	22/3/07	176cm	Gippsland Power/Vic Country
39	Brisbane (Academy)	Daniel Annable	Midfielder	5/4/07	183cm/75kg	Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
40	Brisbane (Academy)	Jack Harrison	Midfielder/Forward	20/2/07	183cm	Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
41	Richmond	Sam Grij	Wing		178cm	Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro
42	Fremantle	Matthew Becker	Defender	30/8/07	187cm/75kg	Peel Thunder/Western Australia
43	North Melbourne	Charlie Dickeson	Wing	22/10/07	168cm	North Adelaide/South Australia
44	Hawthorn	Darcy Montgomery	Forward	27/4/07	180cm/70kg	Subiaco/Western Australia
45	St.Kilda	Joshua Reichelt	Defender	18/1/07	180cm	Central District/South Australia
46	Port Adelaide or St.Kilda F/S	Gill Wakelin	Forward	2/5/07	187cm/67kg	Sturt/South Australia	PA	STK
47	W.Bulldogs	William York	Midfielder	15/4/07	172cm	Peel Thunder/Western Australia
48	Brisbane (Academy)	Raphael Geesu	Small Forward	23/7/07	172cm	Brisbane Academy/Allies	BRIS
49	GWS Giants (Academy)	Ryder Corrigan	Midfielder	14/3/07	185cm	Murray Bushrangers/GWS Academy/Allies	GWS
50	Essendon	Louis Kellaway	Wing	16/3/07	182cm	Sturt/South Australia
51	Melbourne	Taj Longmuir	Defender	4/7/07	179cm/71kg	South Fremantle/Western Australia
52	Collingwood	Shaun Watson	Key Defender	29/5/07	193cm	Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country
53	Melbourne F/S or Gold Coast (Academy)	Kalani White	Utility	5/5/07	197cm	Gold Coast Academy/Allies	GC	MELB
54	Sydney	Jasper Hay	Ruck	10/5/07	199cm	Tasmania Devils/Allies
55	Carlton	Will Prescott	Midfielder/Forward	26/3/07	180cm	Norwood/South Australia