Roast Crows Villians

[George Kramer]

Crows have had some key players who have ****ed us, who has ****ed us the most?

As much as Trigg sucked and killed us, Ogilvie has killed our one and only rebuild. He’s my number 1.

 

[cmndstab]

Is there ultimately a single person we can hold responsible for the camp debacle? Burton, perhaps? Because if so, it's that person.

 

[dogs105]

Please change poll. I wanted to vote for more than 1

 

[Moonwatcher]

Crows have had some key players who have ****ed us, who has ****ed us the most?

As much as Trigg sucked and killed us, Ogilvie has killed our one and only rebuild. He’s my number 1.

The Trigg sanctions are what caught up with us.

 

[Scorpus]

Chapman was chairman for the Tippett debacle AND the camp

So him

 

[morris086]

Is there ultimately a single person we can hold responsible for the camp debacle? Burton, perhaps? Because if so, it's that person.

Roo

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Chapman was chairman for the Tippett debacle AND the camp

So him

Absolutely Chapman. Bloke was a cancer.

 

[Samcro24]

Chapman Trigg Hamish

 

[Moonwatcher]

Is there ultimately a single person we can hold responsible for the camp debacle? Burton, perhaps? Because if so, it's that person.

OK, possibly Burton. The coaches were beaten in the week leading up to the GF in 2017. Richmond focused on what they had to do to win, the Crows focused on how cool it would be to win. The decision to blame the players is a big reason we are where we are but the team had a lot of players at the end of their prime playing in 2017. This meant that the Trigg sanctions would start to bite. Trigg and whoever decided to lay it all on the players did a one-two punch on us.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Where are the board members?

 

[George Kramer]

Please change poll. I wanted to vote for more than 1

Good idea

 

[George Kramer]

Where are the board members?

Fixed

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Sorry, reinforcing my earlier post. But anyone who has followed AFC closely the last 20 years will know the rot started with Chapman. He is the original “back the boys in” whilst he had his snout so firmly in the trough.

Absolute cancer.

CANCER.

 

[StonesThrow]

I feel like Trigg was the start of really s**t times even though we got to a GF after his time.

 

[CrowToon]

It's NEVER the people who do the damage. It's the people who allowed them to do the damage.

 

[Sanders]

Is there ultimately a single person we can hold responsible for the camp debacle? Burton, perhaps? Because if so, it's that person.

We were 5-3 in 2018, the camp itself wasn’t a problem

 

[Sanders]

I went

1. Tippett (though I blame Trigg too)
2. Trigg
3. Ogilvie

 

[AFC979810]

Please add the following two options:

Club Agitators
AFL (they appoint our shitty board).
Andrew Fagan.

For me its gotta be Andrew Fagan. 100%. Especially if you are talking about actually hurting the club long term and not just being incompetent. His first 2 and a half years started so well (even with the tragic passing of Walsh). But what happened across all aspects of the club from 1/4 of the Grand Final through to him quitting right after we won the clubs first spoon was terrible. Combine that with us having a 7 year finals drought - he F****** us the hardest.

All of the below have definitely been incompetent / made some pretty damning errors, but the Club has been able to rebound relatively quickly from all of them.

Shaw - terrible coach, but within 12 months of him leaving we won a flag.
Tippett - Sucked losing him and the draft sanctions, but within 2 seasons of him leaving we were back in the finals and within 5 seasons we were in the Grand Final.
Nicks - Terrible coach, out of his depth. As I said back in early 2020 - he was brought in to make it a fun place. That was why he was hired. I am on record for the past 2 years saying we have the cattle, but not the coach. Think we will see a Sando spike to end all Sando spikes when he is finally replaced.
Hamish has made some absolute howlers no doubt - 2018/2019 were absolutely woeful.

 

[George Kramer]

For me it’s Hamish. His complete lack of focus on the midfield with quality picks has been criminal and he’s blown our only rebuild.

Trigg was a useless prick but the whole Tippett saga was with good intentions, keep the best key forward we had since Modra, we were desperate.

Burton is also up there, sucked as a fitness coach, sucked as a footy ops manager but he didn’t employ himself.

Roo the power broker is almost my no 1, arrogant belief in his football opinions and he brought in Burton, he told us to support another club, he grins like a clown watching Port out perform us.

 

[1970crow]

The Trigg sanctions are what caught up with us.

That period of burnt first rounders. Milera, Gooch, Gibbs, McAsey and Jones. Milera due to injuries and Jones is ok, but the ROI on all those players is miles under par.

 

[George Kramer]

That period of burnt first rounders. Milera, Gooch, Gibbs, McAsey and Jones. Milera due to injuries and Jones is ok, but the ROI on all those players is miles under par.

McHenry

 

[1970crow]

McHenry

I don't count him as he's a very late furst rounder, I don't exoect much in the late teens.

 

[FR0GGY]

I don't exoect much in the late teens.

Have you tried someone older?

 

[George Kramer]

I don't count him as he's a very late furst rounder, I don't exoect much in the late teens.

That’s still a decent pick, we’ve got a SANFL player with a late teen pick

 

[1970crow]

That’s still a decent pick, we’ve got a SANFL player with a late teen pick

I get that, but that's not abnormal. The value we've gotten from those other early picks is not abnormal. Add spending 6 and 5 on small forwards and it's terrible reading.