Preview 2025 Rd 4 Carlton vs Collingwood Thursday 3rd April 7:30PM AEDT @ MCG

[Red Bull]

For starters, McGovern needs to be given the flick … permanently !!
Bloke has taken the piss out of the jumper and supporters long enough …

 

[Beyond Blue]

This is absolute bullshit that our VFL side has no game this week. It's the worse competition, they hardly every play!

I agree it’s very frustrating. It’s hard to see Voss making wholesale changes in light of this.

I don't care who is available, we can not go into another game with Fogarty and Evans.

B: Silvagni Weitering Docherty
HB: Saad McGovern Cowan
C: Acres Cripps Walsh
HF: Boyd Kemp Motlop
F: Young Curnow White
OB: DeKoning Cerra Hewett
F: Haynes Binns Lord Cottrell
SUB: Moir
EM Carroll Wilson Hollands


IN
White - Small forward with pace. I'm keen to see what he has to offer. Kicked goals in a weak VFL side so deserves a go.
Binns - He is a better winger than Cottrell or Hollands who get lost out there.
Lord - Plenty of onball time, replacing Walsh's minutes.
Moir - Gives us the ability to make our forward line more dangerous.
OUT
Evans - Extremely poor footballer.
Fogarty - Very poor footballer.
Williams - Injured.
Hollands - His tackling, disposal and lack of body strength have been really unimpressive. Not offering enough offensively.

I agree with a lot of this except Binns. Also think Fogarty survives for another week or possibly two, basically until Durdin has staked a claim to a spot.

I think this week we should go something like this;
Haynes Weitering Saad
Boyd Silvagni Cowan
Walsh Cripps Acres
Fogarty Young Motlop
White Curnow Kemp
TDK Hewett Cerra
Lord Campo Hollands Moir
Cottrell sub

Tactical

Walsh needs to learn to run again. Off half forward as a high half forward who gets up and helps out the defence as well as play him as the change wingman. As a forward I want to see him impact as a linkup player but also hit the scoreboard. Lord comes in to take up some of Walsh's onball minutes.

So badly out of form at the moment, he is one of the main culprits for all the stuff we do wrong…ball watching, not lowering his eyes when he kicks, not handballing to players running past, asking for the ball in bad positions, not manning up correctly at stoppages…I think I’ve finally come round to the idea of playing Walsh on the wing. it also allows us to play Lord, who of our reserves looks the most ready to step up and contribute at league level.

Boyd to go to half forward. He has to be an upgrade on Fogarty, has to be. He will be able to play the defensive forward role. He will give us some pace, tackling and genuine pressure up forward. What he also gives us is terrific kicking as opposed to Fogarty's terrible kicking.

Understand the sentiment but I still prefer Boyd off half back, provided he can get involved.

Binns is arguably the second best winger on the list. Hollands and Cottrell are terrible wingmen.

Binns is not good enough. The Saints match sim can’t be unseen. IMO he probably needs to be offloaded at the end of the year, although I’m not sure how given he is contracted for next year.

White comes in and replaces Evans. Evans is slow, has no outstanding skills and his impact is practically nothing. So Whatever White brings, he brings pace, so that is something. He also kicked a reasonable amount of goals in a poor VFL side so who knows, he may hit the scoreboard as opposed to not scoring at all.

I agree it’s time for White and Moir to get a go. Their form in the reserves is arguably as good as Evans. Williams is injured again so someone will need to come in.

Stop going to the trap. The trap is the lose player the opposition let you have on the boundary. They want you to do this so they can set you up for a bomb forward and an intercept. It allows the opposition to close down space. Get the ball more central before going inside 50. Once we are past the halfway point we need to bring the ball in. Drop the negative crap where we keep it wide because we are scared of the rebound. It's not 2010.

I don’t see this as an issue as much as others. It’s not possible to play helter skelter all game long. Pretty much all teams revert to this at some stage during a game.

Docherty - AA half back has been played everywhere but there. It's simple, play him at half back and give him some minutes in the middle. Give him a job perhaps. Get him going. Last thing he needs is to be played out of positioned and thrown all around the place.

Docherty was an all Australian half back in 2017. He isn’t close to being that player and never will be again. Sadly he is finished and should really retire before the MSD so we can replace him.

Close IN/OUT

OUTS

Cottrell - If he wasn't playing slightly better than Hollands he would be out. But he is hanging in there until someone steps up and demands a spot.

IMO he can only play as a lockdown play. As soon as Cinc is ready to play league then Cotts will be out of the team. He can be the sub in the interim.

McGovern - He's not playing his best football. What is keeping him in is we know he is a damn good player.

Docherty - Same as McGovern.

McGovern is who is he is…a front runner. I would play Haynes ahead of him every day of the week. Young has gone ahead of him IMO. He should be dropped. We can do it this week even with a few out. Hopefully Voss pulls the trigger this week. If I were Voss he wouldn’t get another game this season.

INS

Carroll - He's close but he needs a little more VFL time. Get over the ankle and get some consistent form. He just has it.

Not sure you can debut a guy coming off an injury and not having played for over a fortnight. I think his time is near however. IMO Luca is the more obvious option to come in.

Wilson - Billy has the pace that this team needs. He probably has better body strength than Hollands but Hollands is more experienced and a little older.

Wilson is miles away IMO. He would have to have a solid month of good reserves games before he’d be even close to being considered for selection.

Durdin - Desperate times. I've seen Durdin do it at AFL level before. He's a better player when going than a lot getting games now. But again, injuries.

He has barely played all year. I want to get him in but given his injury history he is not the sort to rush straight back in at the highest level

 

[CaptainCharisma]

Who have we even got to bring in?
Will H be right? The 2s aren't playing and most of the guys down there need match fitness.

The outs should be from the group of - Williams (inj), Docherty, McGovern, Haynes, Evans.

Just a sense of dread going into this one. They have had the wood over us for a while now and will be salivating at the chance to pile on the misery.

 

[Blueing]

Why even contribute in this thread, the only change will be Williams if he is still injured.....Voss keeps the same personel no matter what outcome!!! So everyone is getting RSI including myself for nothing posting here!!!

 

[Sweet Seventeen]

60 what?

60 unforced errors.

 

[Blue1980]

60 unforced errors.

Seems low

 

[Kruezing]

60 what?

Interchanges ?

 

[thefrog]

Acres out, I’m over him not being able to pick up a ball off the deck and sky balling it inside 50

Move Walsh to the wing and bring Lord back in to take his spot in the guts

 

[Monty1978]

We bought tickets many weeks ago, Ill never do that again and cant bring myself to go.

I brought tickets before the year started for hawks , bulldogs , kangas and pies and going to Adelaide to watch the baggers …. Lucky for me I know someone at the AFL and my tickets were 12 bucks a piece for level 1 ..
Be positive , we are a chance … believe me … this club has a history of letting you down lots of times when you expect them to win and surprising you when least expected …

 

[Aphrodite]

Why even contribute in this thread, the only change will be Williams if he is still injured.....Voss keeps the same personel no matter what outcome!!! So everyone is getting RSI including myself for nothing posting here!!!

You just did!

 

[Blueing]

You just did!

I said that already!

 

[Aphrodite]

I said that already!

Another contribution

 

[jj1978]

A young kid will take the brunt of Voss’ ire… so he’ll go back to the well of older players and not make an example of a conditional McGov, will drop Ollie and Cow, find the next 2 oldest available and bring them in.

I foresee another game where Cripps is on the bench arguing with Voss, Pies players ridiculing us for doing the same mistakes over again, and DeGoey to get back in form and kick 10.

 

[TheReal99prelim]

A young kid will take the brunt of Voss’ ire… so he’ll go back to the well of older players and not make an example of a conditional McGov, will drop Ollie and Cow, find the next 2 oldest available and bring them in.

I foresee another game where Cripps is on the bench arguing with Voss, Pies players ridiculing us for doing the same mistakes over again, and DeGoey to get back in form and kick 10.

Ollie deserves to be dropped. has virtually been untouchable since he was drafted.
Give him a good spell in the VFL

 

[jj1978]

Ollie deserves to be dropped. has virtually been untouchable since he was drafted.
Give him a good spell in the VFL

Still would keep Ollie in the side over Mcgovenrn, Haynes, Williams, Edwards, Acres from last night.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Out: McGovern, Hayes, Hollands, Acres, Docherty, Motlop, Evans, Williams

In: Carroll, White, L.Camporeale, B.Camporeale, Moir, Lord, Durdin

B: Boyd - Silvagni - Weitering
HB: Carroll - Cowan - Wilson

C: L.Camporeale - Cripps - Walsh
F: TDK - Hewett - B.Camporeale

HF: Cottrell - Young - Fogarty
FF: White - Curnow - Kemp

B: Cerra, Lord, Saad, Durdin
S: Moir

 

[thebluenewdeal]

Outs Haynes, Acres, Doch
Ins Campo boys

Cowan Weitering Saad
Boyd Silvagni McGovern

Hollands Cripps Camporeale

Cottrell Kemp Williams
Evans Curnow Motlop

TDK Cerra Hewett

Walsh, Young, Fogarty, Camporeale

Doch or Haynes as sub

Way more balanced to start a game on the G. Cowan changes his role into more of an intercepting type. Campo boys will crack in and play their roles off instinct. A little bit of a risk to drop some names but it looks way more balanced on paper. If Williams isn’t fit enough then White comes in.

 

[Blue1980]

Ollie deserves to be dropped. has virtually been untouchable since he was drafted.
Give him a good spell in the VFL

I don’t think Ollie has been great, but he has a crack and has running capacity. That is enough to have you playing 95% of the time with our current list.

 

[zeggie]

Just going to mention again, Brisbane started 0-3 last year. How did that end for them?

Give Doch a spell. He's looking cooked.
Fingers and toes crossed Harry is up for it and back in.
Haynes I don't know what to say nor who to replace him with.

Go Blues.

 

[Cutter66]

Acres out, I’m over him not being able to pick up a ball off the deck and sky balling it inside 50

Move Walsh to the wing and bring Lord back in to take his spot in the guts

This move has to be made. Please Lord

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[Gointocarlton]

Just going to mention again, Brisbane started 0-3 last year. How did that end for them?

And won the flag from 5th.

 

[carlton_99]

Issue is with the lack of a VFL match this week will players back from injury even be considered for selection.

 

[mjonc43]

I read a lot of comments on young players not being ready. To counter that argument, they don't have much to match in output for the regular players in our bottom 10.

We keep them on the list for 2-3yrs without any Senior opportunity, if they aren't up to it, why keep them? Time to see what some of them are made of at Senior level, give them the same opportunity the plodders are given during our epic form the past 12-13 games.

Fogarty, Evans, Hollands, Docherty, Acres (back injury has inhibited his form), Williams (Injured again), Haynes, McGovern are all below AFL standard this year.

 

[GoBlues!]

Out: McGovern, Hayes, Hollands, Acres, Docherty, Motlop, Evans, Williams

In: Carroll, White, L.Camporeale, B.Camporeale, Moir, Lord, Durdin

B: Boyd - Silvagni - Weitering
HB: Carroll - Cowan - Wilson

C: L.Camporeale - Cripps - Walsh
F: TDK - Hewett - B.Camporeale

HF: Cottrell - Young - Fogarty
FF: White - Curnow - Kemp

B: Cerra, Lord, Saad, Durdin
S: Moir

Big statement Tenacious!

Be lucky if we make more than 2 or 3 changes I reckon.

Out: Williams (inj), Doch (managed), Evans.

In: Moir, Lucas, Lord.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

A young kid will take the brunt of Voss’ ire… so he’ll go back to the well of older players and not make an example of a conditional McGov, will drop Ollie and Cow, find the next 2 oldest available and bring them in.

I foresee another game where Cripps is on the bench arguing with Voss, Pies players ridiculing us for doing the same mistakes over again, and DeGoey to get back in form and kick 10.

Aren’t you a little ray of sunshine!

What is the point of banging on negatively about what might or might not happen.

Isn’t there enough around what has happened to occupy you?