List Mgmt. “It’s a form of tanking” the Richmond rebuild

[H00t]

Isnt this literally just the Hawthorn story but 3 years later?

Wasnt everyone talking about how great Sam Mitchell was for selling older players to get some kids in. Then 1 year later, the media said the competition was compromised and it was the worst thing in the world and then this year Sam Mitchell is the tactical genius?

Click bait will always exist. Richmond could come out and say we are following Sam Mitchell's model that seemed to work rather well and Carro, Barrett and Cornes should go suck a lemon.

Media is always going to media.

I don’t think the hawks and tigers situations are overly comparable though.

Hawks weren’t never close to as bad as the tigers were this year and the players we traded were holding us back while they were your better players.

Tigers are going to be absolutely awful (worse than 2020-24 North) for the next two years minimum barring a miracle.

 

[SplintWhisky]

Media is always going to media.

I don’t think the hawks and tigers situations are overly comparable though.

Hawks weren’t never close to as bad as the tigers were this year and the players we traded were holding us back while they were your better players.

Tigers are going to be absolutely awful (worse than 2020-24 North) for the next two years minimum barring a miracle.

To be honest, the hawks had a full list for most of it and weren't about to consider their Cat B rookies for a game before they got injured.

It could be a blessing but we will shoot ourselves in the foot some how.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Not to pass judgement on the rebuild or whatever or if it's good or bad but I'm a little bit confused at how it's being defined as "speed up their rebuild".

Isn't it "slowing down" their rebuild?

Baker, Bolton, Graham etc. could have still played good football for Richmond over the next 5 years or so.

But they're sacrificing that for a draft picks, top players that if they come off, will have 15+ year careers.

If you look at their chances of winning a flag over the next 15 years, with the list management decisions, isn't sacrificing the next 5 or so years for the 10 after that pushing the chance of winning a flag well into the future, essentially extending out a rebuild?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Isnt this literally just the Hawthorn story but 3 years later?

Wasnt everyone talking about how great Sam Mitchell was for selling older players to get some kids in. Then 1 year later, the media said the competition was compromised and it was the worst thing in the world and then this year Sam Mitchell is the tactical genius?

Click bait will always exist. Richmond could come out and say we are following Sam Mitchell's model that seemed to work rather well and Carro, Barrett and Cornes should go suck a lemon.

It actually went in stages…

1. Hawks need to hit the draft properly.
2. “Their old players are worth nothing, Hawthorn are screwed”.
3. “Hawthorn have traded out old players to deliberately lose games, it’s a form of tanking”.
4.”This isn’t a 3-4 year rebuild, Sam Mitchell won’t be survive this”.
4. “Tasmania will win a flag before Hawthorn, they need assistance”

 

[smasha]

Put it this way, I'm glad Richmond has the arrogance to blow up their list and tank for draft picks. Good for them

Once again we had a huge injury list this year.

 

[Freomaniac]

Once again we had a huge injury list this year.

That is irrellevant.

Richmond have won trade week. The dominated it.

Adrian Dodoro has nothing on your mob. Not a damn thing.

 

[Heart Of Purple]

I think WC have done this to be more competitive so Harley Reid stays.

Doesn’t make sense otherwise

How good do you think Baker is.

Barrass outweighs the Baker gain by far... their list is still worse for wear and they've lost pick 3.

Not sure how that helps the Reid case.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Controversial take

Tanking should be allowed

If a club really wants to put themselves through short term pain then so be it

But to this point we need to get to the stage where all clubs only play each other once so no one gets to benefit twice from it

 

[PhatBoy]

Controversial take

Tanking should be allowed

If a club really wants to put themselves through short term pain then so be it

But to this point we need to get to the stage where all clubs only play each other once so no one gets to benefit twice from it

In a game where revenue streams are coming so thick and fast from gambling companies you can’t actively condone allowing teams to deliberately lose.

You have to have an onus on them to try to win even if it’s not their sole short term focus.

 

[Cleansweep17]

How good do you think Baker is.

Barrass outweighs the Baker gain by far... their list is still worse for wear and they've lost pick 3.

Not sure how that helps the Reid case.

Owies is the key