Preview 2024 Rd 9 Carlton vs Melbourne Thursday 9th May 7:30PM @ MCG

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …


IN: Ollie Hollands, Brodie Kemp, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

29

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

OUT: Zac Williams (glute soreness), David Cuningham

28

David Cuningham

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.3

5star

G

0.5

3star

D

12.1

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

5.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.1

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

5.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

, Orazio Fantasia

14

Orazio Fantasia

Age

28

Ht

180cm

Wt

73kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.6

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.1

5star

G

1.4

5star

D

9.8

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

2star

G

0.2

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

, Lewis Young

33

Lewis Young

Age

25

Ht

202cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.6

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

197.9

3star

D

4.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

26.0

1star

D

14.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

6.2

4star

M

6.4

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

181.6

3star

AFL team selection: Blues recall four

Carlton's Round 9 team is in.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Round 9 team v Melbourne
Backs:	Brodie Kemp	Jacob Weitering	Lachie Cowan
Half-backs:	Alex Cincotta	Mitch McGovern	Nic Newman
Centreline:	Ollie Hollands	Patrick Cripps	Blake Acres
Half-forwards:	Jack Martin	Harry McKay	Elijah Hollands
Forwards:	Matthew Owies	Charlie Curnow	Tom De Koning
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Sam Walsh	Matthew Kennedy
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Adam Cerra	Matthew Cottrell
	Corey Durdin	George Hewett
Emergencies:	David Cuningham	Orazio Fantasia	Lewis Young

 

[Lukeblueboy]

He's definitely fitter but as someone who doesn't thrive on physicality playing as a back flanker doesn't lead to me to believe he'll standup in our midfield with our emphasis on contested possession. He is fitter now but I don't think he plays with as much power as he did before either, he seemed more able to standup in or run through arm tackles but not at the moment.

Agree coops, but imo he doesn’t need to be overly contested, as we need him to receive it off our bulls to utilise his run/carry/spread out of the stoppage.

 

[4flagsin5yrs]

Agree coops, but imo he doesn’t need to be overly contested, as we need him to receive it off our bulls to utilise his run/carry/spread out of the stoppage.

This.

 

[Own The Future]

Without Saads run and carry I don't understand why we don't try and get the ball to Boyd at all costs. Elite kick and could really be a weapon running out of defence

Agree with you. Other teams make special effort to get the ball to their “quarterback” out of D50 - I think of guys like Laird, Daniel, Blakey, Coleman, Daicos, N. Martin, etc. We should be doing this more with Boyd and Saad. Use the weapons we have. Elite kicks are few and far between on our list, need to maximise the ones in the backline as we go forward.

 

[Opium]

Go look at 2019 Finals series. What GWS best player as a mid. The Preliminary Final against Pies he was amazing in a big upset. Just one example

One game wonder. We tried putting him in the midfield when he first came across and that was a big fail. With all the injuries he has had playing midfield isn't ideal. Not the same player he was at 25.

 

[Cringle]

SENIORS
FB	11​	Mitch McGovern	23​	Jacob Weitering	24​	Nic Newman
HB	39​	Alex Cincotta	22​	Caleb Marchbank	37​	Jordan Boyd
C	13​	Blake Acres	9​	Patrick Cripps	46​	Matthew Cottrell
OB	27​	Marc Pittonet	7​	Matthew Kennedy	18​	Sam Walsh
HF	20​	Elijah Hollands	10​	Harry McKay	21​	Jack Martin
FF	12​	Tom De Koning	30​	Charlie Curnow	44​	Matthew Owies
Inter	2​	Lachlan Cowan	28​	David Cuningham	6​	Zac Williams
	5​	Adam Cerra
Sub	29​	George Hewett

Young (omit) replaced by Marchbank
Durdin (omit) replaced by Martin
Fantasia (omit) replaced by McGovern

Williams/Cincotta or Boyd to play higher up the ground (potentially).

Kennedy replaces Hewett in the starting 22.

 

[Korn]

All year? We've been doing it for years. Multiple.

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No we didn't. After that 8 out 9 losing streak last year, we made changes. We stopped bombing it long blindly and we won 9 games in a row.
I don't know why Voss is going back to it.

 

[JJBagger]

No we didn't. After that 8 out 9 losing streak last year, we made changes. We stopped bombing it long blindly and we won 9 games in a row.
I don't know why Voss is going back to it.

Us bombing the ball inside 50 was not the reason we were so poor early last year…

 

[SurreyBlue]

SENIORS
FB	11​	Mitch McGovern	23​	Jacob Weitering	24​	Nic Newman
HB	39​	Alex Cincotta	22​	Caleb Marchbank	37​	Jordan Boyd
C	13​	Blake Acres	9​	Patrick Cripps	46​	Matthew Cottrell
OB	27​	Marc Pittonet	7​	Matthew Kennedy	18​	Sam Walsh
HF	20​	Elijah Hollands	10​	Harry McKay	21​	Jack Martin
FF	12​	Tom De Koning	30​	Charlie Curnow	44​	Matthew Owies
Inter	2​	Lachlan Cowan	28​	David Cuningham	6​	Zac Williams
	5​	Adam Cerra
Sub	29​	George Hewett

Young (omit) replaced by Marchbank
Durdin (omit) replaced by Martin
Fantasia (omit) replaced by McGovern

Williams/Cincotta or Boyd to play higher up the ground (potentially).

Kennedy replaces Hewett in the starting 22.

M2C - not a bad effort but:

Cottrell isn't a winger.
Charlie needs to play further up to start moving.
Cerra on ball please and Kennedy to rotate with Cripps.
Cuningham half forward
Martin forward pocket
Ollie needs to be back on the wing.
C Durdin shouldn't be omitted.
Not sure I like Hewett as sub as he adds little run.

 

[Aphrodite]

From today’s injury update …

FOUR Blues will undergo tests to assess their availability this week …

Zac Williams (glute soreness)
• Subbed out of the game on Friday night with glute soreness
• Availability: Test

Mitch McGovern (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

Caleb Marchbank (back)
• Availability: Test

Jack Martin (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

 

[HBF]

My gut feel is Voss will go back to the mid sized defence of late last year

Boyd Weitering McGovern
Cincotta Marchbank Newman Kemp

Only Saad missing from best line up

Allows Williams to Wing or HF/Mid which will suit him. For all Williams talent he is NOT a one on one player. He is a running creater that can find the ball.

Reckon #15 gets in there if fit

 

[Arr0w]

Williams has never had a tank, nor does he have one now, another unicorn

HF, rotations through middle, sure, has that type of burst, but no where near the endurance to play as a full time mid and definitely not a wingman

Plenty of data, or lack thereof to support it

 

[swuzzlebubble]

From today’s injury update …

FOUR Blues will undergo tests to assess their availability this week …

Zac Williams (glute soreness)
• Subbed out of the game on Friday night with glute soreness
• Availability: Test

Mitch McGovern (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

Caleb Marchbank (back)
• Availability: Test

Jack Martin (hamstring)
• Availability: Test

Team arriving at MCG Thursday night
View attachment QDquW3WkbxyLJ-kc.mp4

 

[morningbrown]

Absolutely zero confidence for this one. We haven't looked likely outside of the GWS game.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Absolutely zero confidence for this one. We haven't looked likely outside of the GWS game.

Apart from the Geelong game which logic suggests we should have won if we'd kicked straight and the pies game where we were dead level with a minute to go?

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

Williams has never had a tank, nor does he have one now, another unicorn

HF, rotations through middle, sure, has that type of burst, but no where near the endurance to play as a full time mid and definitely not a wingman

Plenty of data, or lack thereof to support it

And he can adjust to his new position at half forward for a couple of weeks at VFL level.

I'm amazed at how little our VFL side trials listed players in alternative positions, Lemmey seems to be one of the few exceptions. Great level to use Kemp further up the ground, but why try something different?

 

[Red_man2008]

In: OHollands, Martin, McGovern Kennedy, Kemp
Out: Durdin (sub), Fantasia, Williams, Young, Cowan

FB Boyd Weitering McGovern
HB Newman Kemp Cincotta
C Acres Cripps Hollands
HF Martin TDK Cotterell
FF Curnow Harry Owies

FOLL Pitto Cerra Walsh
INT Kennedy Hollands Hollands Hewett
SUB Durdin

 

[CCurnow3votes]

SENIORS
FB	11​	Mitch McGovern	23​	Jacob Weitering	24​	Nic Newman
HB	39​	Alex Cincotta	22​	Caleb Marchbank	37​	Jordan Boyd
C	13​	Blake Acres	9​	Patrick Cripps	46​	Matthew Cottrell
OB	27​	Marc Pittonet	7​	Matthew Kennedy	18​	Sam Walsh
HF	20​	Elijah Hollands	10​	Harry McKay	21​	Jack Martin
FF	12​	Tom De Koning	30​	Charlie Curnow	44​	Matthew Owies
Inter	2​	Lachlan Cowan	28​	David Cuningham	6​	Zac Williams
	5​	Adam Cerra
Sub	29​	George Hewett

Young (omit) replaced by Marchbank
Durdin (omit) replaced by Martin
Fantasia (omit) replaced by McGovern

Williams/Cincotta or Boyd to play higher up the ground (potentially).

Kennedy replaces Hewett in the starting 22.

Me Likey!

That’s a great team - like the tall/small combos on & off the bench.

My only change would be keeping Durdin in for Cowan.

Williams or Cerra can provide half back cover if needed.

I’d give Durdin a 10 tackle target.

 

[morningbrown]

Apart from the Geelong game which logic suggests we should have won if we'd kicked straight and the pies game where we were dead level with a minute to go?

The scoreboard was the only thing we were close in with both games, completely outplayed by the opposition.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Go look at 2019 Finals series. What GWS best player as a mid. The Preliminary Final against Pies he was amazing in a big upset. Just one example

It’s not like he’s setting the world on fire down back - in fact a few here suggesting he be dropped this week.

Why not try something like a move to HF / pinch hitting mid?

I’d love to try his dynamism and creativity up forward.

 

[gab213]

The scoreboard was the only thing we were close in with both games, completely outplayed by the opposition.

Ultimately, the scoreboard is the thing that counts . Plenty of scope for improvement in how we are playing, we aren't all that far behind them.

 

[Arr0w]

Ultimately, the scoreboard is the thing that counts . Plenty of scope for improvement in how we are playing, we aren't all that far behind them.

The depth of analysis and content between a win and loss is extreme, always has and will

Even the media, Carlton lose by a kick, " they did X poorly, opposition did Y well".

Win by a kick, reverse analysis

 

[gab213]

The depth of analysis and content between a win and loss is extreme, always has and will

Even the media, Carlton lose be a kick, " they did X poorly, opposition did Y well".

Win by a kick, reverse analysis

I'd probably be more concerned if we played at our best and lost by 6 goals

 

[Soapy V]

It’s not like he’s setting the world on fire down back - in fact a few here suggesting he be dropped this week.

Why not try something like a move to HF / pinch hitting mid?

I’d love to try his dynamism and creativity up forward.

That was my suggestion as well

 

[Arr0w]

I'd probably be more concerned if we played at our best and lost by 6 goals

Trying to determine reasons for a close win/loss of 2 evenly competent teams is severely flawed, it's clickbait analysis

A top side losing to a bottom side, sure, much more interesting

 

[CCurnow3votes]

That was my suggestion as well

I did see that - totally agree with you