Opinion New AFC HQ: Stalled Indefinitely

[Rags_118]

It would be nice if the SANFL could move to the old Panther Park site at St Mary’s for their proposed development (displacing the Rugby League who would need to be compensated and found a new home). It has more development room and security than West Lakes and is no less convenient than Footy Park. Mitcham Council wins.

We keep Footy Park until 2048 (or more realistically until Thebby No. 2 becomes available) under a re-work of the existing SANFL lease, reconfiguring the oval to MCG dimensions and retaining adequate change rooms. Then only using it as an occasional 2nd training venue enabling significantly enhanced public access. Charles Sturt Council wins.

Finally we get hold of Thebby and turn the current sh.thole into an elite training facility and AFLW ground that adds economic and social value to the local community. West Torrens Council wins.

 

[FR0GGY]

It would be nice if the SANFL could move to the old Panther Park site at St Mary’s for their proposed development (displacing the Rugby League who would need to be compensated and found a new home). It has more development room and security than West Lakes and is no less convenient than Footy Park. Mitcham Council wins.

We keep Footy Park until 2048 (or more realistically until Thebby No. 2 becomes available) under a re-work of the existing SANFL lease, reconfiguring the oval to MCG dimensions and retaining adequate change rooms. Then only using it as an occasional 2nd training venue enabling significantly enhanced public access. Charles Sturt Council wins.

Finally we get hold of Thebby and turn the current sh.thole into an elite training facility and AFLW ground that adds economic and social value to the local community. West Torrens Council wins.

Staying at west lakes is a horrible option, the port augusta oval and facility looks better.

 

[Dc9798]

Staying at west lakes is a horrible option, the port augusta oval and facility looks better.

Agree, staying at West Lakes is absolutely not an option.
The state gov. have to get involved if the SANFL proposal falls through at council level given the money involved (probably close to $150 million combined by the time this is resolved) and work these projects bring being held up.

 

[Geoffa32]

Staying at west lakes is a horrible option, the port augusta oval and facility looks better.

We can't anyway.

After 2026, we can only use the oval for 15 hours a week.



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[1970crow]

the SANFL has asked if it can return to Football Park when the land vests back in the City of Charles Sturt in 2026

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SANFL eyes return to Football Park with $27m facilities investment - InDaily

www.indaily.com.au

Football Park".

Background

Football Park oval is to be vested with Council on completion of the West development, which is expected to occur as early as 2026. When Football Park is vested with Council, we are proposing that the land be retained as open space and designated as “community land”. Under the Local Government Act 1999 a Community Land Management Plan (CLMP) must be established to set out how the community land can be used, and how it must be managed by Council.

November 2023, Draft Community Land Management Plan (CLMP) for Football Park, West Lakes | Plans for Football Park

The information on this page relates to an earlier stage of community engagement undertaken in November 2023. The information below is no longer the most-up-to-date. Refer to the Home Page for current information.

www.yoursaycharlessturt.com.au

It becomes council land in 2026.


This is why we need to be out by 2026. Not 2048.

Sure we have a lease for 2048, but in 2026 it becomes open use.


Which, somewhat, works for the SANFL given they only need the actual oval a few hours a week.

But not an AFL club.



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Makes you wonder where all the talk about ca$hing in million$ of dollar$ when exiting the lease came from.

 

[1970crow]

Tell them you’ll prune their hedges

But not too much.

 

[1970crow]

It's interesting to see the lease is void 'according to the council'. Transfer of ownership doesn't normally end existing lease obligations.

If the lease was contradictory to an existing agreement it could be. Would a sub lease ordinarily survive the conclusion of a head lease?

 

[FR0GGY]

We can't anyway.

After 2026, we can only use the oval for 15 hours a week.



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Surely nothing will be done by then anyway even if we started tomorrow.

 

[DJ75]

We can't anyway.

After 2026, we can only use the oval for 15 hours a week.



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Who the F@#$ agreed to that?

 

[kirky]

the SANFL has asked if it can return to Football Park when the land vests back in the City of Charles Sturt in 2026

.

SANFL eyes return to Football Park with $27m facilities investment - InDaily

www.indaily.com.au

Football Park".

Background

Football Park oval is to be vested with Council on completion of the West development, which is expected to occur as early as 2026. When Football Park is vested with Council, we are proposing that the land be retained as open space and designated as “community land”. Under the Local Government Act 1999 a Community Land Management Plan (CLMP) must be established to set out how the community land can be used, and how it must be managed by Council.

November 2023, Draft Community Land Management Plan (CLMP) for Football Park, West Lakes | Plans for Football Park

The information on this page relates to an earlier stage of community engagement undertaken in November 2023. The information below is no longer the most-up-to-date. Refer to the Home Page for current information.

www.yoursaycharlessturt.com.au

It becomes council land in 2026.


This is why we need to be out by 2026. Not 2048.

Sure we have a lease for 2048, but in 2026 it becomes open use.


Which, somewhat, works for the SANFL given they only need the actual oval a few hours a week.

But not an AFL club.



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How many hours a week do you think we use the oval now?

SANFL have asked for 90 hours per month - do you think we would use it that much now? I seriously doubt that - equals 3 hours per day every day of a 30 day month.

Use of the oval for 15 hours per week would be sufficient? Means 3 hours per day - Monday to Friday.

We wouldn’t need to use the oval on a match day (either here or interstate game) and it isn’t used the day after a match either.

Am ai missing something?

 

[GreyCrow]

How many hours a week do you think we use the oval now?

SANFL have asked for 90 hours per month - do you think we would use it that much now? I seriously doubt that - equals 3 hours per day every day of a 30 day month.

For 1 team yeah thats fine but we have 3 teams

 

[kirky]

For 1 team yeah thats fine but we have 3 teams

Ok, fair point.

 

[Sambo90]

Community Survey: Plans for Football Park | Plans for Football Park

Join the conversation on Football Park and share your views about its future use.

www.yoursaycharlessturt.com.au

Everyone can/should fill this out. Non residents can vote also.

 

[Dirty Bird]

Community Survey: Plans for Football Park | Plans for Football Park

Join the conversation on Football Park and share your views about its future use.

www.yoursaycharlessturt.com.au

Everyone can/should fill this out. Non residents can vote also.

I did
Then I used some generic name
Then found that name in the white pages in the area.

 

[Mutineer]

SANFL’S PROPOSAL FOR FOOTBALL PARK – FAQs - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

 

[crows dude]

What is this shit? Surely we are moving to Thebby whether or not SANFL move to footy park.

What will happen if SANFL is not granted a licence to use Footy Park oval from the City of Charles Sturt?​

If SANFL doesn’t secure a licence to use the oval, the Adelaide Football Club will remain at Football Park. The Adelaide Football Club has a legal right to use Football Park until 2048.

 

[Geoffa32]

How many hours a week do you think we use the oval now?

SANFL have asked for 90 hours per month - do you think we would use it that much now? I seriously doubt that - equals 3 hours per day every day of a 30 day month.

Use of the oval for 15 hours per week would be sufficient? Means 3 hours per day - Monday to Friday.

We wouldn’t need to use the oval on a match day (either here or interstate game) and it isn’t used the day after a match either.

Am ai missing something?

SANFL are asking for 90 hours as part of this proposal.


Right now, whoever is using it will be capped below that after 2026.


For three teams, plus our NGA group that is unworkable.


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[relapse]

What is this shit? Surely we are moving to Thebby whether or not SANFL move to footy park.

What will happen if SANFL is not granted a licence to use Footy Park oval from the City of Charles Sturt?​

If SANFL doesn’t secure a licence to use the oval, the Adelaide Football Club will remain at Football Park. The Adelaide Football Club has a legal right to use Football Park until 2048.

The SANFL from what I am aware have a lease over Thebarton until 2031.

At worst we might stay at West Lakes and either look for another site or just wait until the lease opens up.

I suspect the SANFL won't just sit at Thebarton until the lease expires, they will be desperate to get their hands on that 9 million dollar payout from us so I suspect if Footy Park falls through that they'll be trying to arrange something else as soon as they can.

 

[kirky]

What is this shit? Surely we are moving to Thebby whether or not SANFL move to footy park.

What will happen if SANFL is not granted a licence to use Footy Park oval from the City of Charles Sturt?​

If SANFL doesn’t secure a licence to use the oval, the Adelaide Football Club will remain at Football Park. The Adelaide Football Club has a legal right to use Football Park until 2048.

Well the SANFL has lease until 2031 at Thebarton so they aren’t required to move.

I’ve sent an email to both the councillors covering my suburb to ascertain how they originally voted on SANFL moving back to West Lakes. Were they in favour or not.

This whole shit show has to end.

 

[kirky]

So got a response from one of councillors in my ward.

Surprise, surprise he voted against SANFL going to West Lakes.

 

[1990crow]

So got a response from one of councillors in my ward.

Surprise, surprise he voted against SANFL going to West Lakes.

Lol. What a shamozzle.

 

[George Kramer]

So got a response from one of councillors in my ward.

Surprise, surprise he voted against SANFL going to West Lakes.

Ask him why

 

[CrowinNT]

So got a response from one of councillors in my ward.

Surprise, surprise he voted against SANFL going to West Lakes.

What was the reply ?

 

[Eagleboy2011]

What was the reply ?

Why does the SANFL need a ground for anyway? HQ yes.

 

[Cole Dammett]

Why does the SANFL need a ground for anyway? HQ yes.

Honestly, a floor in an office block somewhere would suffice! And then the U18s etc can train somewhere, surely there is a free oval somewhere for a few hours they can use