Teals and independent candidates in 2025 fed election

[JoondalupJ]

Hi Joon,
I am guessing that did not intentionally to reply to me. But as you have...

Australia has natural resources. These include iron ore, gas, gold, copper, nickel, and many many others. ALL of these resources in-ground are owned by Australians. And so we should get royalties from every single tonne, mega-juel, or what-ever units once it is sold. Australians should benefit. But does that happen? No

That should be the sole focus of every politician In Australia. Billions of dollars are being lost that could be put into ... whatever you think is necessary.

The first thing we need to do is to value our resources. Trump broke our free trade agreement. And so all bets are off... we should now own and value our resources.

ALL gas leaving Australia should have a 10% tax. Further, all gas providers should have to provide gas to Australians at 10% above cost.

I have more.

We should not put retaliatory tariffs against the USA. Let them drive their nation into recession. Our government should instead set up a board that finds new markets. If needed, buy non-pershishable products to be sold at a later date.

Never give into the bully. See his weakness and use it against him

I was answering Gonzales, only, my argument involved only my opinion on climate. That was all. I believe we should be using all we have for energy because electricity is how the modern world exists and gives probably most of us a modern life of sorts.
I totally agree we should be making billions out of our mining industries, and GAS of which we have tons but make nothing out of.
It is ridiculous. So to me I'd abandon renewables altogether except houshold roof solar panels to ease costs with the right gear (inverter strength??) to transfer electricity into the home, on a, one house one sun idea.

I am a strict believer in Nuclear energy clean and safer as its developed more and more.

Renewables to me are not ever guaranteed, because they rely on the weather, and are only ever good for back up. If they get bigger and better ? They haven't shown it yet it may take 100 years. They will be back up. NOW, Base Load Power can't be reached with it every second of the day.
My opinion on the climate is not based on any scientific studies, its simply my logic that says nothing on this planet now, then, a billion or 3 billion years ago cannot be 100% so making statements of absolute belief is an impossibility for me , but thats me. Like the other eight billion people on his earth I might be wrong.
But I might be correct. But observing things and seeing there have been lots of falsehoods said about what the climate does and how it always has.

Makesme sure its Politics driving the left green, and I just lost them they moved house not me.
But you know that mate.

Science is a wonder, but it is never 100% and can't be.
Nothing can, except some ideas in mathematics I guess, and physics, but judging absolutes from huge long times past with drills, no, never 100%.

I 'll never change on that, the planet is too unpredictable we are insignificant to nature just a part of it.

 

[swingdog]

I was answering Gonzales, only, my argument involved only my opinion on climate. That was all. I believe we should be using all we have for energy because electricity is how the modern world exists and gives probably most of us a modern life of sorts.
I totally agree we should be making billions out of our mining industries, and GAS of which we have tons but make nothing out of.
It is ridiculous. So to me I'd abandon renewables altogether except houshold roof solar panels to ease costs with the right gear (inverter strength??) to transfer electricity into the home, on a, one house one sun idea.

I am a strict believer in Nuclear energy clean and safer as its developed more and more.

Renewables to me are not ever guaranteed, because they rely on the weather, and are only ever good for back up. If they get bigger and better ? They haven't shown it yet it may take 100 years. They will be back up. NOW, Base Load Power can't be reached with it every second of the day.
My opinion on the climate is not based on any scientific studies, its simply my logic that says nothing on this planet now, then, a billion or 3 billion years ago cannot be 100% so making statements of absolute belief is an impossibility for me , but thats me. Like the other eight billion people on his earth I might be wrong.
But I might be correct. But observing things and seeing there have been lots of falsehoods said about what the climate does and how it always has.

Makesme sure its Politics driving the left green, and I just lost them they moved house not me.
But you know that mate.

Science is a wonder, but it is never 100% and can't be.
Nothing can, except some ideas in mathematics I guess, and physics, but judging absolutes from huge long times past with drills, no, never 100%.

I 'll never change on that, the planet is too unpredictable we are insignificant to nature just a part of it.

**** me, that's all sorts of wilful ignorance.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I was answering Gonzales, only, my argument involved only my opinion on climate. That was all. I believe we should be using all we have for energy because electricity is how the modern world exists and gives probably most of us a modern life of sorts.
I totally agree we should be making billions out of our mining industries, and GAS of which we have tons but make nothing out of.
It is ridiculous. So to me I'd abandon renewables altogether except houshold roof solar panels to ease costs with the right gear (inverter strength??) to transfer electricity into the home, on a, one house one sun idea.

I am a strict believer in Nuclear energy clean and safer as its developed more and more.

Renewables to me are not ever guaranteed, because they rely on the weather, and are only ever good for back up. If they get bigger and better ? They haven't shown it yet it may take 100 years. They will be back up. NOW, Base Load Power can't be reached with it every second of the day.
My opinion on the climate is not based on any scientific studies, its simply my logic that says nothing on this planet now, then, a billion or 3 billion years ago cannot be 100% so making statements of absolute belief is an impossibility for me , but thats me. Like the other eight billion people on his earth I might be wrong.
But I might be correct. But observing things and seeing there have been lots of falsehoods said about what the climate does and how it always has.

Makesme sure its Politics driving the left green, and I just lost them they moved house not me.
But you know that mate.

Science is a wonder, but it is never 100% and can't be.
Nothing can, except some ideas in mathematics I guess, and physics, but judging absolutes from huge long times past with drills, no, never 100%.

I 'll never change on that, the planet is too unpredictable we are insignificant to nature just a part of it.

So your family eat the sausages, even though there’s a one or two percent chance they’re tainted with a biological agent and will kill them?

 

[JoondalupJ]

Hi Joon,
I am guessing that did not intentionally to reply to me. But as you have...

Australia has natural resources. These include iron ore, gas, gold, copper, nickel, and many many others. ALL of these resources in-ground are owned by Australians. And so we should get royalties from every single tonne, mega-juel, or what-ever units once it is sold. Australians should benefit. But does that happen? No

That should be the sole focus of every politician In Australia. Billions of dollars are being lost that could be put into ... whatever you think is necessary.

The first thing we need to do is to value our resources. Trump broke our free trade agreement. And so all bets are off... we should now own and value our resources.

ALL gas leaving Australia should have a 10% tax. Further, all gas providers should have to provide gas to Australians at 10% above cost.

I have more.

We should not put retaliatory tariffs against the USA. Let them drive their nation into recession. Our government should instead set up a board that finds new markets. If needed, buy non-pershishable products to be sold at a later date.

Never give into the bully. See his weakness and use it against him

Just a ps,
I think we should respond by starting earning more minerals money.

Money we seem to be sacrificing in that area. Like Gas!

Much more out of the ground stuff.

That we, pull out of our ground!
No action directly against the USA, only make deals, that suit.

I believe that is what Trump needs. We can't beat them.

They are allies whatever it seems to some.

 

[JoondalupJ]

So your family eat the sausages, even though there’s a one or two percent chance they’re tainted with a biological agent and will kill them?

I don't get what you are trying to say. But the odds are in the sausage's favour , is that all?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I don't get what you are trying to say. But the odds are in the sausage's favour , is that all?

It’s generally agreed that worldwide, the number of peer-reviewed scientific papers disagreeing in any way with the science of catastrophic human-induced climate change is about one to two per cent at most.

If you’re told there is a one to two per cent chance the sausages on your plate will kill you, do you tuck right in?

 

[CM86]

Hey SBD Gonzalez I have been chatting with JoondalupJ some time and I can attest it is a worthwhile conversation. You he is short on facts and research, but he encapsulates the zeitgeist of a certain group that make up our society. And there are parts of what he says I agree with. I'll elaborate after the footy

Do they use Talk2txt?

 

[Alite]

Do they use Talk2txt?

I don't know what that is. What do you need to know

 

[Alite]

Just a ps,
I think we should respond by starting earning more minerals money.

Money we seem to be sacrificing in that area. Like Gas!

Much more out of the ground stuff.

That we, pull out of our ground!
No action directly against the USA, only make deals, that suit.

I believe that is what Trump needs. We can't beat them.

They are allies whatever it seems to some.

Hi All,
Joon and I have been in a respectful chat for some time. We do not agree on all things to do with the orange man, and have differences in Australian politics, but it is great for me to see a different side of a conversation.

As far as I can tell Joon agrees that all products taken from Australian resources should incur a royalty (I think 10%).
Personally I'd also have a certain % of gas being provided to Australian business and households at cost + 20%. But the situation is that we pay the same cost for our gas as those in Japan.

It is OUR gas. .. and politicians have given it away for a job after their political career. These politicians should be investigated.

Guys, Joon will likely agree with most of what I just wrote.

JoondalupJ ... am I wrong on any of this?

 

[CM86]

I don't know what that is. What do you need to know

As in, do they use verbal speech and have it converted to text for posting on this forum.

Also.

Of the two, would you consider yourself more of a reflective thinker, or a reactive thinker?

 

[Alite]

As in, do they use verbal speech and have it converted to text for posting on this forum.

Also.

Please state clearly what you are inferring... I am intrigued.

 

[CM86]

State clearly what you are infering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition

They talk into their phone, and the phone creates the textual representation of what they are saying.

Speech to text. Speaking to written word.
Dictation.

 

[CM86]

I don't get what you are trying to say. But the odds are in the sausage's favour , is that all?

If you're on a log in a river there is important information you'd know, and important actions you can take. The log and the river will continue regardless of you.

You can immediately ascertain a collection of information from intuition. Regardless of terminology etc.
Center of gravity, center of buoyancy, moment of inertia.

You can immediately understand the impacts you have on the log in terms of it's displacement around any axis, it's changes in direction and its buoyancy.


You can now choose to take whatever actions you want, with the knowledge that the log and river have acted in certain terms for an infinite time before your knowledge of them.
OR
You can choose to act in a way that best preserves your survival on that log in that river.

Your argument is to act in your immediate best interest, regardless of future outcomes, because 'what will be will be'.
The scientific argument is that we need to do certain actions and movements, to best preserve human life for us and generations beyond.


You argue that science tells us that the climate has always changed, while insisting that science cannot be trusted because there is no absolute truth.

 

[Alite]

The ONlY question that we should be asking is..?.....

Which Teal, Independent or Major Party person will advocate for EVERY resource that is taken from Australian land be done so with a 10% royalty based on the sale price.

This is not difficult.

Just make is so. (And watch those that make money and so power whine... then know them)

 

[Alite]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_recognition

They talk into their phone, and the phone creates the textual representation of what they are saying.

Speech to text. Speaking to written word.
Dictation.

Joon does not talk into his phone.... he also does not research, or have any knowledge of current events

But he provides a different view

 

[CM86]

The ONlY question that we should be asking is..?.....

Which Teal, Independent or Major Party person will advocate for EVERY resource that is taken from Australian land be done so with a 10% royalty based on the sale price.

This is not difficult.

Just make is so. (And watch those that make money and so power whine... then know them)

Joon does not talk into his phone.... he also does not research, or have any knowledge of current events

But he provides a different view

Thanks for clearing this up.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Polling shows teals support is growing in Coalition base

Election polling seen by The Saturday Paper shows teal independents adding to their tally of seats in demographics that cut harder into the Coalition’s heartland.

www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au

Good breakdown of the numbers here.

 

[Satan]

juvenile stuff by monique ryans husband

 

[nut]

juvenile stuff by monique ryans husband

I’m sure it will be the most important story by the main stream media.

 

[CakeEater]

juvenile stuff by monique ryans husband

Ugly look, They all do it though Satan.

Also begs the question- why are you doing it if your the partner of the candidate.

Some no name staffer doing it, 1 day story

 

[Satan]

Ugly look, They all do it though Satan.

Also begs the question- why are you doing it if your the partner of the candidate.

Some no name staffer doing it, 1 day story

short of volunteers?

 

[QuietB]

juvenile stuff by monique ryans husband

Was the sign on public land? Probably another Murdoch set up.

 

[Satan]

Was the sign on public land? Probably another Murdoch set up.

if he did nothing wrong , why did he apologize?

 

[QuietB]

if he did nothing wrong , why did he apologize?

They did do something wrong - it is not their responsibility and they do not have the authority to remove the sign.

 

[Satan]

They did do something wrong - it is not their responsibility and they do not have the authority to remove the sign.

i am aware they did