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5th is a good finish overall for Ange & the Spurs, think many would’ve had them finishing a lot lower, especially as they lost Kane.

Be interesting to see how they go next season.
It is a good season but not a great one. Few areas exposed since January. Very important to show more progress next season
 
Yeah not right now though. The rest of the sides game is also s**t an Ange is gonna work on that first
So it's not important to win right now and get into the Champs League, it's more important to look cool while losing? Ange has had long enough now, he should be focusing on it. He had these deficiencies at all his clubs he's managed.
 
So it's not important to win right now and get into the Champs League, it's more important to look cool while losing? Ange has had long enough now, he should be focusing on it. He had these deficiencies at all his clubs he's managed.
In a way, yes. This year was a bit of a free hit of just getting back into Europe.

champions league next season would just be a false dawn and leave us well short next, because we've seen that Ange won't trust the academy or rotate properly with no cup comps. He won't trust fringe players in the CL and we'd end up trusting and overplaying the same 16 players in the CL and PL. At least with EL he has no excuse not rotate.
 

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In a way, yes. This year was a bit of a free hit of just getting back into Europe.

champions league next season would just be a false dawn and leave us well short next, because we've seen that Ange won't trust the academy or rotate properly with no cup comps. He won't trust fringe players in the CL and we'd end up trusting and overplaying the same 16 players in the CL and PL. At least with EL he has no excuse not rotate.
You were only in the Champions League a few years ago. The money spent etc, it's not an excuse. He has underachieved this year especially when you consider they're barely above a lambasted United and not catching Villa. Hell the way it's going Chelsea could overtake Spurs.
 
You were only in the Champions League a few years ago. The money spent etc, it's not an excuse. He has underachieved this year especially when you consider they're barely above a lambasted United and not catching Villa. Hell the way it's going Chelsea could overtake Spurs.
We made it on the final day that season when we clearly weren't ready or worthy. We sacked Nuno that season, that's how bad we were. And we saw the consequences of that last season. We were a waste of space in the CL

There's little point being in there if you can't seriously compete for it imo

We aren't borderline with FFP where it's critical to how we operate in the upcoming window
 
You were only in the Champions League a few years ago. The money spent etc, it's not an excuse. He has underachieved this year especially when you consider they're barely above a lambasted United and not catching Villa. Hell the way it's going Chelsea could overtake Spurs.
As for expectations for this season. To be on the same points tally as last season when losing Kane on the opening day is progress. Considering we've been a one man team built around Kane. And playing a completely different way under the last 3 managers
 
As for expectations for this season. To be on the same points tally as last season when losing Kane on the opening day is progress. Considering we've been a one man team built around Kane. And playing a completely different way under the last 3 managers

And you might end up on the same amount of trophies this season as Kane. A win of some sorts.
 
10 goals in 14 games from a simple exposing of his lack of care for set pieces, and then in general the attacking build up being worked out after a great start.

I hope for his sake he is less blaise than you are with the problems in front of us.
Lol
10 goals and the majority came because the goalkeeper doesn't exist at corners. Fix that and half those won't be scored
 
So it's not important to win right now and get into the Champs League, it's more important to look cool while losing? Ange has had long enough now, he should be focusing on it. He had these deficiencies at all his clubs he's managed.
That's a bad argument and you know it. If you know anything about Anges teams they always improve second season because he does improve the deficiencies.

Hilarious you assume if Ange just tweaked something and he'd be guaranteed to win all his games then and get into the champions league.
 
That's a bad argument and you know it. If you know anything about Anges teams they always improve second season because he does improve the deficiencies.

Hilarious you assume if Ange just tweaked something and he'd be guaranteed to win all his games then and get into the champions league.
Why don't you send Ange your knotted panties already? No one is allowed to criticise him under Topkents rule.

He's left himself open for valid criticism, you can tell because he's getting angry with the media - the sign of a manager under pressure and not knowing the answers.
 
Why don't you send Ange your knotted panties already? No one is allowed to criticise him under Topkents rule.

He's left himself open for valid criticism, you can tell because he's getting angry with the media - the sign of a manager under pressure and not knowing the answers.
I think his mailbox might be full already from your messages telling him to just win more now and get champions league.

You don't have valid criticism you just write troll s**t hoping for bites, your knowledge of the sport starts and stops at ' this guy's s**t because he out of form'
 
I think his mailbox might be full already from your messages telling him to just win more now and get champions league.

You don't have valid criticism you just write troll s**t hoping for bites, your knowledge of the sport starts and stops at ' this guy's s**t because he out of form'
So what I wrote wasn't valid criticism... Right. Sometimes people are just so ignorant on things it isn't worth the time. You're supporting teams based on Ange so says it all.
 

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And of all the players in our squad who I think Ange will see as part of the long term project if this works, it's Vicario, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Porro, Sarr and maybe Maddison. The rest I'm either 50/50 or less on them being part of the long term Ange project. Son not part of that list due to age. The rest I see as either stop gaps for a short period, or not good enough.

So a sale of Vicario to solve the issue isn't on Anges radar
 
Decided I like Arteta less than Pep. So...

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Why don't you send Ange your knotted panties already? No one is allowed to criticise him under Topkents rule.

He's left himself open for valid criticism, you can tell because he's getting angry with the media - the sign of a manager under pressure and not knowing the answers.
To be fair, Ange is not gonna change his philosophy, and if that's not good enough for the EPL then he'll accept that rather than change.

I do wonder how long the fans and owners will accept that over success (if it doesn't come).
 

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