List Mgmt. AFL Senior List Contract Status

[robbieando]

SYDNEY SWANS CONTRACT STATUS (Updated 02-MAY-2024)

The minimum list size for each club will be 37, which can be made up of as little as 36 senior listed players and one rookie.

To reach 44, clubs can carry 36-38 senior listed players, four to six Category A rookies, and two Category B rookies.

List make up - 37 Senior Listed players, 5 Category A rookies and 2 Category B rookie.


Contract Expires - 2024:
Harry Arnold (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Jack Buller (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Harry Cunningham
William Edwards (Cat B Rookie 2nd Year)
Robbie Fox
Aaron Francis
Will Hayward
Indhi Kirk (Cat B Rookie 1st Year)
Jacob Konstanty
Jaiden Magor (Cat A Rookie 2nd Year)
Lachlan McAndrew (Cat A Rookie 3rd Year)
Logan McDonald
Lewis Melican
Caleb Mitchell
Sam Reid (Cat A Rookie 1st Year)
Cooper Vickery

Contract Expires - 2025:
Braeden Campbell
Caiden Cleary
Joel Hamling
Peter Ladhams

19

Peter Ladhams

Age

26

Ht

204cm

Wt

103kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

8.8

5star

CL

3.3

5star

HO

15.0

5star

D

21.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

12.0

5star

CL

4.0

5star

HO

16.0

5star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

CL

3.2

5star

HO

14.8

5star

Jake Lloyd
Luke Parker
Dane Rampe
Matthew Roberts
Angus Sheldrick
Patrick Snell
Chad Warner
Corey Warner
Sam Wicks
John Longmire (Senior Coach)

Contract Expires - 2026:
Taylor Adams
Joel Amartey
Will Green
James Jordon
Justin McInerney

Contract Expires- 2027:
Brodie Grundy
Tom McCartin
Hayden McLean

Contract Expires - 2028:
Errol Gulden
Issac Heeney
Tom Papley
James Rowbottom

Contract Expires - 2029:
Oliver Florent
Callum Mills

Contract Expires - 2031:
Nick Blakey

 

[Dubai Quacker]

To my eye eye he's looked good enough. He was our first pick before Buller so we obviously rate him. Gould must surely be leaving. Melican must be a question mark with his cheesy hamstrings. Edwards is a bigger unit but 2 or 3 years behind him. How does debuting play into that?

He’s a mature age player - so I’d have anticipated that if he was going to debut, it would have been among the injury carnage this year.

Given he wasn’t deemed up to a debut this year, I think that unless the club thinks he’s on an upward trajectory, he’s likely to be delisted - as are most mid season draftees.

 

[Bloods86]

He’s a mature age player - so I’d have anticipated that if he was going to debut, it would have been among the injury carnage this year.

Given he wasn’t deemed up to a debut this year, I think that unless the club thinks he’s on an upward trajectory, he’s likely to be delisted - as are most mid season draftees.

We did mention our picks were for short and longer term at the time. I think in the case of losing Gould, not being able to trust Melican's body, Paddy potentially retiring, we'd be mad to delist a guy who has looked pretty good after just arriving.

 

[Dubai Quacker]

We did mention our picks were for short and longer term at the time. I think in the case of losing Gould, not being able to trust Melican's body, Paddy potentially retiring, we'd be mad to delist a guy who has looked pretty good after just arriving.

Time will tell (as it always does!), but personally I can’t see us retaining Arnold whilst at the same time delisting Gould.

 

[Kiama Chris]

We did mention our picks were for short and longer term at the time. I think in the case of losing Gould, not being able to trust Melican's body, Paddy potentially retiring, we'd be mad to delist a guy who has looked pretty good after just arriving.

My thoughts exactly. You put it perfectly.

 

[Tesla Tenet]

The bus is loading and every year some miss out.

Franklin - Thanks for everything it was an unbelievable ride.

P McCartin - unfortunately, he should be on the bus (medically retired). A bizarre but enlightening career. Nearly out of the game, changes clubs and plays a GF with his brother. Heart melting moments.

Reid - Aaaaaarrrrrgggggghhhh. His best is incredibly good however his kicking and body are somewhat flaky. Can you set a team around him in a key position and then disappear with a season ending injury again. More experience (181 games) then the next 3 key forwards combined (114). On the bus or cheap contract in Sinkers VFL, or AFL when required.

Stephens - Will volunteer to jump onto the bus. Burnt at pick 5. Norf quality .
Traded to where he wants to go for 3rd Rd pick.

Arnold/Gould - surprised if both stay or go but likely 1 will go.

Melican - just don't know

Sheather- unlucky but plays hard and injured constantly.

HHK - will be offered a contract somewhere else.

Gulden and McDonald contracts need to be done NOW, ASAP, PRONTO, STAT





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[robbieando]

If we keep Buller and Arnold () we could delist say Owen (for instance) and promote McAndrew and Wicks.
That would leave us with the 5 Rookies.
Buller
Arnold
HHK
Magor
Fox
Room for May perhaps?

May we could rookie via the Cat B list if we delist Sheather as I would imagine would be the case

 

[Kiama Chris]

May we could rookie via the Cat B list if we delist Sheather as I would imagine would be the case

May perhaps by that route? Not sure if he qualifies. There are caveats.

 

[Tesla Tenet]

McLean would get much more somewhere else and we were in negotiation and his value is growing each week. Might be that one that got away.

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[Cadsky]

McLean would get much more somewhere else and we were in negotiation and his value is growing each week. Might be that one that got away.

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As much as it would be nice to keep him as he is in good form, I think Buller will overtake him eventually anyway. If he leaves, Buller gets fastracked so I'm not overly concerned if he does.

 

[Tesla Tenet]

McLean is already good enough to play for nearly all other teams.

Buller is still 50 games short of proving he is good enough.

It's a big difference...

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[SydneyBlood]

Does any or all of Paddy's contract amount for next season - 2024 - count against next year's cap?

EDIT: Just adding that based on the the article from The Age republished in the draft/trade thread today, Buller and Arnold are signed up to the end of next year, 2024, not 2023 as listed above?

 

[robbieando]

Does any or all of Paddy's contract amount for next season - 2024 - count against next year's cap?

EDIT: Just adding that based on the the article from The Age republished in the draft/trade thread today, Buller and Arnold are signed up to the end of next year, 2024, not 2023 as listed above?

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Now let’s continue this trend of long-term contracts with Errol and Logan.

 

[Cadsky]

Reckon Logan gets a 6 year deal. Will put him as the only player expiring in 2030 at this stage. With Amarty '26 and McLean now '27 living Logan into '28 would be too painful.

 

[BloodySwan]

Reckon Logan gets a 6 year deal. Will put him as the only player expiring in 2030 at this stage. With Amarty '26 and McLean now '27 living Logan into '28 would be too painful.

McDonald is going to be wrapped up for a long time. You can feel it

 

[Jewelsbon]

McDonald is going to be wrapped up for a long time. You can feel it

 

[Millky95]

My guess is McDonald has been told by his manager to hold off, play well and try to get that extra $100k per year

 

[Cadsky]

My guess is McDonald has been told by his manager to hold off, play well and try to get that extra $100k per year

Most likely. But I don't think Sydney are going to take too many risks here. We will offer him a very fair contract imo.

 

[BloodySwan]

My guess is McDonald has been told by his manager to hold off, play well and try to get that extra $100k per year

From memory Beatson said we've already started negotiating with McDonald's manager.

 

[Kiama Chris]

From memory Beatson said we've already started negotiating with McDonald's manager.

And Errol's too. Could take a while, especially when Errol makes AA. No need to panic in either case.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

One-year extension for Lewis Melican

43

Lewis Melican

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

3star

MG

48.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

1star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

2star

MG

48.0

1star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

1.0

3star

MG

48.0

1star

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Interesting and mildly annoying that Twomey is reporting both Buller & Arnold are signed for 2024 - but nothing from the Swans Media Dept.

(No need to tap the sign robbieando , I understand your policy on such matters).

 

[mtooler]

I thought our two mid season signings were extended, all I can find though is Buller till end of 2024. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.he...ws-story/f523b16cd0813507330d9dedb4b9d7ca?amp

 

[Adnico26Parker]

I thought our two mid season signings were extended, all I can find though is Buller till end of 2024. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/contract-status-deep-dive-updates-on-every-player-drafted-signed-in-the-last-afl-offseason/news-story/f523b16cd0813507330d9dedb4b9d7ca?amp

The Age, 22 August

Mid-season draftees Harry Arnold and Jack Buller added another 12 months to their contract almost as soon as they arrived in the Harbour City

Deal or no deal? Naming the nearly 200 AFL players who don’t have a contract for 2024

Across the league, there are almost 200 players yet to lock in a deal for 2024. Find out who your club is yet to sign.

www.theage.com.au

 

[Callipygian]

May we could rookie via the Cat B list if we delist Sheather as I would imagine would be the case

I think we would have to wait till May gets through the ND before we could put him on the Cat B rookie list.