Samantha Murphy Ballarat * Patrick Orren Stephenson Charged With Murder

[Kurve]

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The Murder of Rebecca Young - Ballarat

The Murder of Hannah McGuire - Ballarat * Lachie Young

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Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

charged



Allegedly

 

[Edna Mode]

At this stage i doubt that this is even being discussed by either side; the accused is not going to even give a hint that he could have been in the remote vicinity at the time of her death and the Crown have charged him with Murder and not any lesser charge

To the best of my knowledge, Victoria doesn't have "no body, no parole" legislation. If he does go down on the charge, the Sentencing Judge may take this into consideration in imposing subseqent sentence.

As the Defence chose not to go to commital it's going to be a winner takes all scenarioVictoria does,

Victoria does, the Corrections Amendment in 2016

 

[31550]

Typically vicpol wait for a jogger, bushranger gold enthusiast or murderer to find bodies for them.

The jogger/bushranger/golddigger/murderer creed is "No reward, No body!"

 

[GrayRanga]

Victoria does, the Corrections Amendment in 2016

Missed that, I knew the ammendment in 2016 didn't get up (The Bill wasn't assented to before the end of Parliament and lapsed). Didn't see the reporting from this year's successful attempt

However, the legislation states:

CORRECTIONS ACT 1986 - SECT 74AABA​

Conditions for making a parole order for person imprisoned for certain fatal offences
(1) The Board must not make a parole order under section 74 or 78 in respect of a prisoner serving a sentence of imprisonment for an offence of murder, conspiracy to murder, accessory to murder or manslaughter unless the Board is satisfied that the prisoner has cooperated satisfactorily in the investigation of the offence to identify—

(a) the location, or the last known location, of the body or remains of the victim of the offence; and

(b) the place where the body or remains of the victim of the offence may be found.

...
(5) Cooperation referred to in this section may occur before or after the prisoner was sentenced to imprisonment.

So, if found guilty, he could wait until all the Appeals are finalised before telling where he remembers the body was placed, He doesn't have to say where prior to the trial

The Defence are playing the odds

 

[31550]

The Defence are playing the odds

Seems more like the cops on the punt.

 

[Percel]

Did you attend Percel ?

I did not,

 

[Munich]

I'm hearing they were known to eachother.

Make of that as you will.

 

[Kurve]

I'm hearing they were known to eachother.

Make of that as you will.

In what way .... allegedly?

 

[Munich]

In what way .... allegedly?

The way you would think...

 

[31550]

Statistically, victims of murder are overwhelmingly murdered by someone they know.

 

[Munich]

Statistically, victims of murder are overwhelmingly murdered by someone they know.

Yep. This didn't make sense demographic wise to me, I originally thought they must have known one another and forgot about it for a while, but keep hearing recently, that they did.

 

[Kurve]

The way you would think...

 

[Lady O]

The way you would think...

Which is, exactly?

 

[Saint12]

Which is, exactly?

 

[thumbs_up]

It's not stupid at all. Assuming though, now that will inevitably make an ass out of someone

 

[jason_recliner]

Wow! HUGE bombshell if true.

How do they allegedly know each other?

 

[maggiethecat]

Not related are they ?? … sorry just had to add this

 

[Lady O]

Wow! HUGE bombshell if true.

How do they allegedly know each other?

Maybe she sold him a uniform when he was at school?

 

[shorsky]

Yep. This didn't make sense demographic wise to me, I originally thought they must have known one another and forgot about it for a while, but keep hearing recently, that they did.

Have you heard any more about the alleged ‘restraining order’ or the like, that I believe Sam had been taken out on someone ?

 

[shorsky]

Yep. This didn't make sense demographic wise to me, I originally thought they must have known one another and forgot about it for a while, but keep hearing recently, that they did.

Also Munich, am interested to know if what you keep hearing is that only SM & POS knew each other, or did she know other members of his family ?

KNOW, as opposed to KNOW Of - huge difference

Thank you.

 

[Munich]

Have you heard any more about the alleged ‘restraining order’ or the like, that I believe Sam had been taken out on someone ?

No I haven't. I can try and find out though.

 

[Munich]

Also Munich, am interested to know if what you keep hearing is that only SM & POS knew each other, or did she know other members of his family ?

KNOW, as opposed to KNOW Of - huge difference

Thank you.

Have only heard those two knew one another.

 

[Munich]

Wow! HUGE bombshell if true.

How do they allegedly know each other?

Not in a platonic manner.

 

[thumbs_up]

Not in a platonic manner.

I really hope this isn't just salacious gossip

 

[jason_recliner]

Not in a platonic manner.

REALLY?!?!?! That's messed up if true.

 

[thumbs_up]

I really hope this isn't just salacious gossip

The prosecution will have a much stronger case if it's true, no doubt