Current Trial Russell Hill & Carol Clay Pt 2 *Pilot Greg Lynn Guilty for the Murder of Carol Clay

[Kurve]

Here is PART 1 Russell Hill & Carol Clay - Wonnangatta *Pilot Greg Lynn Pleads Not Guilty to Murder

The Greg Lynn Police Interview Tapes

DPP v Lynn [2024] VSCA 62 (12 April 2024) INTERLOCUTORY APPEAL​

R v Lynn (Rulings 1-4) [2024] VSC 373 (28 June 2024)​

R v Lynn (Rulings 5 & 6) [2024] VSC 375 (28 February 2024)

R v Lynn (Ruling 7) [2024] VSC 376 (8 May 2024)

 

[Longmembrey]

Pardon, I'll clarify that.
As I understand it if the trial is re-opened via appeal there is the potential for him being found to be responsible for RH's death as well. You are right he can't be retried for murder once found not guilty. It is also possible for the DPP to appeal the lack of conviction on RH but they most probably won't.

Nah you are making this up. He is, and will always be, considered not guilty of RH

 

[Sir_Loin]

It was straight from the loin

 

[Zidane98]

By his own words, Lynn admits to firearms offences and to Hill accessing them, subsequently Clay was shot. Going by Lynn's own words, none of it would have happened had Hill not been able to access his firearms.

Then there's his disposal of Hill's body, the emotional and psychological distress for nearly two years.

Good luck finding a lawyer to take it on. Huge $$$ with a low chance of a good result.GL was a acquitted in court, legally the judge pretty much declared if he is innocent of murder he is also innocent of manslaughter.

At the very least GL is in prison so there's that. Surely the families would be better off investing their time and money elsewhere rather than drag the whole thing back into court again.

 

[Finknottle]

The more I learn about Greg Lynn the happier I am that he will be locked away.

 

[Kurve]

Good luck finding a lawyer to take it on. Huge $$$ with a low chance of a good result.GL was a acquitted in court, legally the judge pretty much declared if he is innocent of murder he is also innocent of manslaughter.

At the very least GL is in prison so there's that. Surely the families would be better off investing their time and money elsewhere rather than drag the whole thing back into court again.

Why do you think the cops put a restrainer on Lynn's property?

 

[Kurve]

Nah you are making this up. He is, and will always be, considered not guilty of RH

That would be 'not guilty' of the murder of RH.

 

[Cold Sober]

Someone posted many weeks ago what the verdict would be.
This shit is not rocket science.

 

[Irma]

That would be 'not guilty' of the murder of RH.

 

[Underarrest_]

I look forward to 60 minutes regurgitating what has already been presented in the MSM...but with dramatic music!

Not to mention the ticking.

 

[Zidane98]

Why do you think the cops put a restrainer on Lynn's property?

For the victims of crime compo fund. That isn't a civil suit. Police determine the appropriate compo.

 

[Kurve]

For the victims of crime compo fund. That isn't a civil suit. Police determine the appropriate compo.

Sue for damages​

You may also be able to make a civil claim against the offender to get compensation for the injury you have suffered. This will depend on whether the offender has any assets (money or other things they own). The offender does not have to have been convicted or found guilty in a criminal court for this to happen. You can include the loss, destruction or damage of your property in your claim. Get other support for victims of crime.

Financial assistance and compensation

Victims of crime may be able to get financial assistance from the Victims of Crime Assistance Tribunal, or compensation from the person who committed the crime.

www.legalaid.vic.gov.au

 

[Kurve]

For the victims of crime compo fund. That isn't a civil suit. Police determine the appropriate compo.

The police don't determine how much a victim or injured party receives, the Victims of Crime Tribunal does that. It isn't always necessary to secure a conviction to qualify either.

 

[GladdyDee]

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The channel 7 reporter couldn’t have put more words in RH’s wife’s mouth than if they tried, I felt sorry for her, for the way she was somewaht exploited for that exclusive on TV but I guess she needed to vent. She was quite the opposite of what I imagine CC to be. RH was definitely living another life with CC

IMO these murders didn’t generate anywhere near as much outrage as would if the couple involved was younger. That two oldies lost their lives is a bit sad more that its horrific, which is a sad indictment. Sensing a bit of ageist coverage of the case, in a similar vein to the way sex workers’ murders are downgraded.

 

[Finknottle]

The channel 7 reporter couldn’t have put more words in RH’s wife’s mouth than if they tried, I felt sorry for her, for the way she was somewaht exploited for that exclusive on TV but I guess she needed to vent. She was quite the opposite of what I imagine CC to be. RH was definitely living another life with CC

IMO these murders didn’t generate anywhere near as much outrage as if the couple involved was younger. That two oldies lost their lives is a bit sad more that its horrific, which is a sad indictment. Sensing a bit of ageist coverage of the case, in a similar vein to the way sex workers’ murders are downgraded.

So true - The notion that Russell Hill was just a grumpy old guy asking for trouble. The media love to pigeon hole people because dumbed down suits them and their readers.

 

[Terrafirma]

No Hosty’s where he is now.

With some luck he becomes one when inside.

 

[Terrafirma]

The channel 7 reporter couldn’t have put more words in RH’s wife’s mouth than if they tried, I felt sorry for her, for the way she was somewaht exploited for that exclusive on TV but I guess she needed to vent. She was quite the opposite of what I imagine CC to be. RH was definitely living another life with CC

IMO these murders didn’t generate anywhere near as much outrage as would if the couple involved was younger. That two oldies lost their lives is a bit sad more that its horrific, which is a sad indictment. Sensing a bit of ageist coverage of the case, in a similar vein to the way sex workers’ murders are downgraded.

You make some good points. Hope the sentencing doesnt reflect the victims ages? Or it becomes a joke like Oscar Pistorius. Whose story was worse, Lynns or Pistorius? Obviously both were cases of rage and temper then find a story to hide the truth? Oscar delivered the crocodile tears no way Lynn sheds one tear IMO

 

[Terrafirma]

Good luck finding a lawyer to take it on. Huge $$$ with a low chance of a good result.GL was a acquitted in court, legally the judge pretty much declared if he is innocent of murder he is also innocent of manslaughter.

At the very least GL is in prison so there's that. Surely the families would be better off investing their time and money elsewhere rather than drag the whole thing back into court again.

I don't believe the families would pursue that in fact in their statements they have accepted the result whilst airing their feelings. The question of a retrial is with Lynn not the prosecution or the families IMO. It's done unless Lynn decides otherwise.

 

[Terrafirma]

The police don't determine how much a victim or injured party receives, the Victims of Crime Tribunal does that. It isn't always necessary to secure a conviction to qualify either.

Yes 1 x conviction for Clay means Clay's family get some money and none for the Hill family. If I were the families they could decide to share the funds but that would be up to the families and 'm guessing unlikely. We don't know if there is some resent already between the families, only they would know? Russell only has himself to blame for the wife and girlfriend scenario, obviously not for being murdered he could not have known he was dealing with a Physco Killer IMO or when he found out it was too late for him to do much, he had no way of defending himself against a gun. I believe he was also shot and that's why Lynn claims Hill and himself fired shots off to cover for the fact someone could have heard those gunshots in the valley. Witnesses Lynn already met and knew were there. It's a sad post death scenario, this is when the emotions and pain set in and any frustrations with what could have been done differently etc etc

 

[revo333]

Why would he go into protection? I don’t think the general population will care about him murdering an old woman or his history of family violence.

Murdering women and children is a big no no for most prisoners.

 

[revo333]

Another podcast episode is up..

Wasn't very well liked among pilots especially Junior pilots.

His story changed from when he spoke to police the first time, so Dann was wrong about him being 100% truthful with the police.

 

[Iretired00]

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Definitely some similarity

 

[Longmembrey]

That would be 'not guilty' of the murder of RH.

Murder OR manslaughter or any crime within that, ie assault, recklessly cause injury, threat to kill, etc, etc. Double jeopardy

Whether he can be charged now separately for any offence AFTER RH died, ie, 'interfering with a corpse' I am not sure.

My guess would be no, as the facts that make up that offence were part of the Crown case of murder. So I don't think he can be presented on that again under a different charge.

Again, double jeopardy

 

[Longmembrey]

Okay.

Sue Greg Lynn and on a win, force the sale of his estate if he doesn't pay. Better?

Sorry but it just doesn't happen like that in Australia

 

[Run n Spread]

You make some good points re the judges thinking. What's interesting though now all his past and the recordings of his behaviour post murder has been made public it's like the lid has been lifted. As I understand it a re-trial is starting all over again and the pros could vastly improve their tactics given MS was off the table. Could it be they charge Lynn with manslaughter over Hill and murder once again for Clay? Just thinking how the defense would see their chances given they also have to be aware of what the Pros will do in a retrial? No legal expert obviously but there are risks for the defense I would have thought? It seems like a can or worms and Lynn has to be prepared to fork out the big bucks all over again. With the talk of a fresh coroner's inquiry into Lisa Lynn's death everything could capitulate for Lynn IMO.

As per double jeopardy I don't think he can be charged with MS over RH as its a related charge. RH is off the table as far as further charges go.
A retrial would only be for CC. And only if he won an appeal

 

[Alberto_Magnifico]

If the gate to the north was open he would have got away with it.

If he didn't take the phone he would have got away with it - this to me is so odd considering everything else he did. Why did he keep it? Was he hoping it would ping to create a red herring, I assumed since the Adrian Bailey case it was well understood what phones, even turned off could do.

Heck, if he didn't crack on day 3 of the police interview would they have been able to convict him of anything? Given that it was only his admission that connected his firearm to the ballistic and forensic evidence.