List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[bzparkes]

Nah stacked draft. I've heard previous drafts as not rating players from pick 20 onwards .

We had clubs giving up very good future picks for 40s picks this season

Because the talent was even and they wanted to bring it in now.

Like most bottom clubs, WCE have a lot of issues to correct.

Adding one draftees, instead of Baker, Graham and Owies, wouldn't have solved much, if anything.

 

[WCE_phil]

Nah stacked draft. I've heard previous drafts as not rating players from pick 20 onwards .

We had clubs giving up very good future picks for 40s picks this season

Very good draft and very deep. No true elite players. Lalor would have gone either before or after Duursma the year before then I think the first couple of mids picked would have been taken after either Windsor or Curtin. Maybe after Sanders depending on club needs.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Because the talent was even and they wanted to bring it in now.

Like most bottom clubs, WCE have a lot of issues to correct.

Adding one draftees, instead of Baker, Graham and Owies, wouldn't have solved much, if anything.

The talent wasn't just even it was stacked .
Norf traded a top 5 future pick for a mid 20s pick .

We traded a future early 3rd for a late 40s pick

Saints traded their future 2nd to jump in front of us in the 40s too.

Clubs don't do that when the draft talent isn't there .

Sure the top end wasn't great but last year was the same except for Harley. It dropped off hard in 2023 after the first round

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Unless Baker has career best seasons i can't see him being worth pick 14 in that stacked draft.

No season Baker has had previously is worth pick 14 .

Go and have a look at the players taken at P14 over the l ast decade or so and then tell me Baker doesn’t rate on exposed form!
Of course there’s always the chance we could grab the next H Reid for the bargain price but history says otherwise.
Lever,Hipwood,Perryman, M. Ling,J.Hayley,Bergman,H.Chapman,Chesser,Hewett,Rogers,Faull.
Some good names and a few spuds.If I threw them all in a box and said lucky dip or Baker?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Norf traded a top 5 future pick for a mid 20s pick .

Saints traded their future 2nd to jump in front of us in the 40s too.

Clubs don't do that when the draft talent isn't there.

Wrong clubs to try and prove your point

 

[eaglevision]

Go and have a look at the players taken at P14 over the l ast decade or so and then tell me Baker doesn’t rate on exposed form!
Of course there’s always the chance we could grab the next H Reid for the bargain price but history says otherwise.
Lever,Hipwood,Perryman, M. Ling,J.Hayley,Bergman,H.Chapman,Chesser,Hewett,Rogers,Faull.
Some good names and a few spuds.If I threw them all in a box and said lucky dip or Baker?

Other than Hately, Ling and Chesser I’d take all of them over Baker so 8 in 11 chance you get a preferred player. Chesser onwards is a call on potential and not performance.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Other than Hately, Ling and Chesser I’d take all of them over Baker so 8 in 11 chance you get a preferred player. Chesser onwards is a call on potential and not performance.

Chapman? Perryman?Hipwood? Faull? Rogers?
Fair suck of the sav mate!!

 

[eaglevision]

Chapman? Perryman?Hipwood? Faull? Rogers?
Fair suck of the sav mate!!

Faull and Rogers too early to tell other than on potential but would rather both on the list than Baker. Hipwood close I’ll give you that.

 

[ArdentEagle]

If I were Mitchell, Barrass down back would allow me to play Sicily as a forward for the whole season. Battle can play Sicily's 3rd tall intercept role perfectly.

I think he can be a real difference maker there. Sicily is a significant upgrade on Chol up front.

It's also the reason I think taking the Hawks picks and not Carlton's ones was a bit of a mistake. But only time will tell.

I think Sicily in that 3rd tall role (Sweeper/Intercept) is more valuable. I'm not arguing that he's a bloody good forward too but he's truly elite as an intercept/sweeper/marker/elite kick. Sets up so much of the play.

Him and Gov are freaks in this role.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Other than Hately, Ling and Chesser I’d take all of them over Baker so 8 in 11 chance you get a preferred player. Chesser onwards is a call on potential and not performance.

Cameron Ling?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I think Sicily in that 3rd tall role (Sweeper/Intercept) is more valuable. I'm not arguing that he's a bloody good forward too but he's truly elite as an intercept/sweeper/marker/elite kick. Sets up so much of the play.

Him and Gov are freaks in this role.

Battle is more than capable of that role though, and once Frost is back there's a logjam for the tall defensive spots.

Sicily showed plenty in cameos up front last year. He could be a real threat up forward IMO.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Battle is more than capable of that role though, and once Frost is back there's a logjam for the tall defensive spots.

Sicily showed plenty in cameos up front last year that he could be a real threat up forward IMO.

Look, I agree that Battle is capable in that role but Sicily is an absolute freak.
I'd agree with you 99% of the time but I just think he's THAT good in that role, you play him there first.

In saying that, he's also a very good mid forward.

The Kent is a damn good footballer, even though he's punchable AF.

I'm going to get reamed for this but, I think he's just ahead of Hurn as a kick.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Look, I agree that Battle is capable in that role but Sicily is an absolute freak.
I'd agree with you 99% of the time but I just think he's THAT good in that role, you play him there first.

In saying that, he's also a very good mid forward.

The Kent is a damn good footballer, even though he's punchable AF.

I'm going to get reamed for this but, I think he's just ahead of Hurn as a kick.

I agree, he's probably only behind Tom Stewart in that role for me. But I genuinely believe if they want to win a flag this year, they'll need goals from him. Lewis coming from a long way back with his injury. I don't rate Chol much at all and Dear is still raw.

 

[mattyc75]

Battle is more than capable of that role though, and once Frost is back there's a logjam for the tall defensive spots.

Sicily showed plenty in cameos up front last year. He could be a real threat up forward IMO.

Clearly they don't rate frost.

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[stallon]

I think Sicily in that 3rd tall role (Sweeper/Intercept) is more valuable. I'm not arguing that he's a bloody good forward too but he's truly elite as an intercept/sweeper/marker/elite kick. Sets up so much of the play.

Him and Gov are freaks in this role.

Theyve got Barrass, Scrimshaw and Battle.
All 3 prefer to be intercepting/spoiling rather than marking their man.

Sicliy has gotta either play small or someones going to have to move forward, with Sicily being the most likely to move.

 

[eaglevision]

Cameron Ling?

Matthew Ling. Swans draftee that never got going.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

Just thought I’d have a gink at Bakers highlights ( of which there are plenty)
Two things excited me-
1. Baker is a TOP notch crumbing/pressure forward.I had him pigeon holed as a defender/part mid.check out how many goals he snaps on the left.Had him pigeonholed as a 40m kick. Kicks goals from 50.
2. Watching Richmond’s pressure game with Riewald and Lynch the targets. I thought we’ve got AO,Waterman,AReid and Shanahan and the Ws.
If we get the pressure up ; of which Baker was front and centre; we are gunna be scary!!
- I thought Baker was a real good player who gave 100%.
I apologise !
He’s better than that!

 

[ArdentEagle]

I agree, he's probably only behind Tom Stewart in that role for me. But I genuinely believe if they want to win a flag this year, they'll need goals from him. Lewis coming from a long way back with his injury. I don't rate Chol much at all and Dear is still raw.

The issue is, I have hit in front of Tom Stewart...He's coming from behind

 

[ArdentEagle]

Theyve got Barrass, Scrimshaw and Battle.
All 3 prefer to be intercepting/spoiling rather than marking their man.

Sicliy has gotta either play small or someones going to have to move forward, with Sicily being the most likely to move.

Sorry...Sic is just too good in that role. Someone else has to compromise.

 

[stallon]

Sorry...Sic is just too good in that role. Someone else has to compromise.

Yeah Sicily is too good back there, but unless they recruited Battle to be a forward im not sure what else they do. You dont move Barrass or Scrimshaw from the backline either, theyre far worse forwards than Sicily and easily deserve their spots.
Sicily was used as a forward in 2024 when needed, and was recruited as a forward originally

 

[ArdentEagle]

Yeah Sicily is too good back there, but unless they recruited Battle to be a forward im not sure what else they do. You dont move Barrass or Scrimshaw from the backline either, theyre far worse forwards than Sicily and easily deserve their spots.
Sicily was used as a forward in 2024 when needed, and was recruited as a forward originally

Scrimshaw is the movable kent...Alright.

 

[stallon]

Scrimshaw is the movable kent...Alright.

Idk reading the hawks best 22 thread it seems they reckon running all 4 of them in the backline is likely, Sicliy playing smaller and potentially being a swingman

 

[ArdentEagle]

Idk reading the hawks best 22 thread it seems they reckon running all 4 of them in the backline is likely, Sicliy playing smaller and potentially being a swingman

 

[We_The_West]

If you count Richmonds slightly "odd" drafting maybe we got something back(if they left Allan for us), but I think you do still have to count it as a total of the west coast and Richmond off-season dealings, rather than counting the Hawks or Carlton deals as offsetting it making the poor deal ok.

In totality it was better than average imo, but arguably with the other small wins we had, it shouldve been even better.

Can we count intangibles such as building great working relationships with TGI sports which will build to future great business deals with clients such as Chad and Corey Warner

 

[stallon]

Can we count intangibles such as building great working relationships with TGI sports which will build to future great business deals with clients such as Chad and Corey Warner

Is Baker with TGI too? Well that may partially explain it