List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Quinten Kennedy]

We might not know it, but this was a major bullet dodged.

The ink is barely dry on his contract and he reckons that getting the deal made him lose motivation......

.....Imagine if he signed with us and took this attitude to his footy?

Bit of a stretch, but the pros and cons of him not signing with us are obvious. And I'm undecided either way.

 

[SAweagle]

To be honest warner hasn't had the best season so far and he was poor in the grand final.

People flap on about 2022 but he wasn't that great in that GF either, just wasn't completely uncompetitive like his team mates.

He's all cream and no cake.

 

[Patterz123]

Sydney had to put forward a very good offer to keep him.

Not often that type of coin (1.4m etc per season), is associated with such a short term extension.

Hopefully we can hit the draft strong now, and then start topping up with some more mature players over the next two years. As many have stated, possibly a blessing in disguise for us.

 

[CountryLad]

Anybody watching WP v SF colts game?
Swadling at HT, 22 disposals!

34 disposals in the end.

Whan with 26 and Robinson with 24. Freo have some good NGA talent coming through too.

 

[Elite Pete]

Can’t see him leaving WA so Freo probably his only realistic destination. Late second will be pretty much useless for us unless we package it up to a team with a high NGA/FS. If Freo are interested in him I’d ask for Erasmus, otherwise put him on a rolling 1 year deal on minimal salary.

I can’t see Erasmus being at Freo next year anyway. Would’ve loved to have him across at the start of the year but some of his games this year at AFL level, he looks very much like an Eagles player already. Misses easy disposals, brain fades when the opposition has the ball.

Not sure he has any value in his current situation either. I guess we can’t be too picky if we don’t offer Kelly a contract.

Liam Reidy maybe if we can’t get an upgrade on Flynn. Reidy would be an upgrade on BWill at least.

 

[Elite Pete]

34 disposals in the end.

Whan with 26 and Robinson with 24. Freo have some good NGA talent coming through too.

They do, makes them selling their firsts for Kossi a lot easier decision.

Hopefully ours are right there with them. Koby Evans, Walley and Williams this year we can bundle our later picks to move up and Harper Banfield, Kenh and McGlade could really make us a seller of our first next year, just need the right player though. Not sure who that is….

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I can’t see Erasmus being at Freo next year anyway. Would’ve loved to have him across at the start of the year but some of his games this year at AFL level, he looks very much like an Eagles player already. Misses easy disposals, brain fades when the opposition has the ball.

Not sure he has any value in his current situation either. I guess we can’t be too picky if we don’t offer Kelly a contract.

Liam Reidy maybe if we can’t get an upgrade on Flynn. Reidy would be an upgrade on BWill at least.

Maybe people who watch a lot of WAFL will have a different opinion but i thought we should have gone after Brodie last year. He likely wouldn't cost much. Freo can't demand a big price tag for somebody they clearly think is outside their best 25 and not in the their future plans. He is already in Perth. Still only 26. And maybe he can be a stopgap for us in the inside mid position for a few years until the younger players we have are physically able to take over that role.

I wouldn't go for a stop gap 26 year old pocket or flanker but since inside mid is such a critical position and we have such a lack of candidates and if said stop gap won't cost much then i would support that.

 

[bzparkes]

Maybe people who watch a lot of WAFL will have a different opinion but i thought we should have gone after Brodie last year. He likely wouldn't cost much. Freo can't demand a big price tag for somebody they clearly think is outside their best 25 and not in the their future plans. He is already in Perth. Still only 26. And maybe he can be a stopgap for us in the inside mid position for a few years until the younger players we have are physically able to take over that role.

I wouldn't go for a stop gap 26 year old pocket or flanker but since inside mid is such a critical position and we have such a lack of candidates and if said stop gap won't cost much then i would support that.

Love the Freo logic behind Brodie.

Plays a primary role in their midfield during their best season since 2015. Gets a 4 year contract as reward.

Freo then proceed to refuse to play him for the next 2 seasons, missing out on finals both years.

Wonderful decision making down at the Wanchors.

 

[Boohemian]

Clint Wheeldon was saying the other day on ABC Radio that we should go after Brodie for all those reasons.

Freo just refuse to play him regardless of how he's performing at WAFL level.

 

[ThePuma #9]

CDT has the benefit of using his frame against smaller bodies he wont get that in the AFL.
You don't use top picks on Rucks.
Nic Nat was destroying teams on his own CDT does not.

It’s his attributes I am interested in. Not if he’s destroying his competition as you put it.

Soft hands
Clean touch
Nick kick
Athletic mark
Roves own taps
Gets involved in scoring chains

This is what I’m looking at.

 

[ThePuma #9]

I think the timing is wrong on this one, but people far better than me would be able to say what rate they would expect KPP to develop.

Generally speaking, I say midfielders take three to four years to get going. KPP on the other hand I say a minimum of six years.

Hypothetically; Harley Reid, Reuben Gibney, Elijah Hewett, Bo Allan, Tom Gross, Jack Hutchinson, Clay Hall, Tyrell Dewar, Hamish Davis, Lucca Greggo, Harvey Johnston, Campbel Chesser (e.g 2025 Haul - Fred Rodriguez, Dyson Sharp, + NGA's Wes Walley, Koby Evans, Tylah Williams, Charlie Banfield) (e.g 2026 haul - Lucas Robinson/Douglas Cochrane, + NGA's Jimmy Aylmore, Garrison Kenh, Jake Caton, Lachlan McGlade, Harper Banfield)

Conservatively, assuming 40% of the kids make it - those names will make the core midfield group and should be averaging close to 60 - 100 games by 2030. That core group should impact the competition in 2030 if they fulfil their potential.

Again generally speaking CDT wont be ready until 2032. Why use a pick now on him, when we can absolutely target a ready made KPP from 2028.

But, I am not expert just a numpty who loves the West Coast Eagles and watches the game. I just hope the guys ITK make the right call so we can see another premiership within 10 years.

Why won’t he be ready till 2032?

The last three high end rucks were Luke Jackson, Nic Naitanui and Matthew Kreuzer.

All three played relatively early with another ruck taking the main duties. It allowed them to develop and get playing time.

Cooper has the added bonus of potentially being versatile enough to fill holes in other areas of the ground.

I can’t see any reason why Cooper can’t follow this pathway behind Flynn.

Let’s see how he goes later in the year with a potential stint in the VFL against bigger bodies.

 

[ThePuma #9]

The problem with Barnett is pretty simple really.

1. He just happened to have far and away his best year of his life in his draft year. Was expected to go on with it.
2. He lacks the competitive nature between the ears, which you couldn't tell in his draft year.

Burgiel is a similar story. He lost some of his best attributes by being constantly injured after being drafted and lacked that real drive to succeed.

It turned out to be a very weak draft.

The salary for draft picks is definitely in the works. I think it's been pushed back till either the year Tasmania come in or will come in the year after.

I’d love to hear your opinion of Cooper Duff-Tyter and his progression so far this year.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

It’s his attributes I am interested in. Not if he’s destroying his competition as you put it.

Soft hands
Clean touch
Nick kick
Athletic mark
Roves own taps
Gets involved in scoring chains

This is what I’m looking at.

No thanks. He is slightly undersized for a ruck at 200cm and his ability forward is limited by his shaky/average marking.

People like to compare him to Jackson or TKD but really her is far more like Grundy.

Assuming Oscar leaves, we finally have a future shaping draft hand. I'd be furious if we used it on CDT.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

The problem with Barnett is pretty simple really.

1. He just happened to have far and away his best year of his life in his draft year. Was expected to go on with it.
2. He lacks the competitive nature between the ears, which you couldn't tell in his draft year.

Burgiel is a similar story. He lost some of his best attributes by being constantly injured after being drafted and lacked that real drive to succeed.

It turned out to be a very weak draft.

The salary for draft picks is definitely in the works. I think it's been pushed back till either the year Tasmania come in or will come in the year after.

This has been scrapped as far as I know.

 

[ThePuma #9]

No thanks. He is slightly undersized for a ruck at 200cm and his ability forward is limited by his shaky/average marking.

People like to compare him to Jackson or TKD but really her is far more like Grundy.

Assuming Oscar leaves, we finally have a future shaping draft hand. I'd be furious if we used it on CDT.

Fair enough. It will be interesting to see if he keeps developing this year as he’s taken some big strides so far this year.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Barnett just doesn't have anything that resembles even a modicum of AFL quality talent.

You know how you occasionally tune in to watch the Beagles and there's just these really shit amateur players with slow speed, slow reaction time, bad skills and just don't appear to belong on the field? That is Barnett.

This is the WAFL we're taking about as well, a fair step down from AFL. It's generally baffling how he can be this bad after this many years in an AFL system.

This is bullshit. He is very fast for a bloke 203cm, is good overhead. I don't think he's going to make it, but he's not untalented. He's just seemingly lacks the drive and desire for the hard stuff and that is a non-starter.

 

[Godfather32]

Why won’t he be ready till 2032?

The last three high end rucks were Luke Jackson, Nic Naitanui and Matthew Kreuzer.

All three played relatively early with another ruck taking the main duties. It allowed them to develop and get playing time.

Cooper has the added bonus of potentially being versatile enough to fill holes in other areas of the ground.

I can’t see any reason why Cooper can’t follow this pathway behind Flynn.

Let’s see how he goes later in the year with a potential stint in the VFL against bigger bodies.

If we have multiple high picks and he's still up there at the end of the season just do it. It's a crapshoot anyway and I'm pretty keen to watch a star ruckman tear the game apart for us again instead of the spuds we've had trudging around lately.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

If we have multiple high picks and he's still up there at the end of the season just do it. It's a crapshoot anyway and I'm pretty keen to watch a star ruckman tear the game apart for us again instead of the spuds we've had trudging around lately.

We've had 3 generational ruckman in the last 20 years and only one of them has a flag.

We need to upgrade our ruck division, but ruck is the last place we should be spending high end draft picks on.

 

[Godfather32]

We've had 3 generational ruckman in the last 20 years and only one of them has a flag.

We need to upgrade our ruck division, but ruck is the last place we should be spending high end draft picks on.

You think this team is going to use all our high end draft picks on midfielders? No chance. Assuming we have 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 I'm more than ok taking the best midfielder and a ruckman if they're the best two players.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

You think this team is going to use all our high end draft picks on midfielders? No chance. Assuming we have 1 and 2 or 2 and 3 I'm more than ok taking the best midfielder and a ruckman if they're the best two players.

Where have I ever said that? In fact I've said the opposite, we should go a mid and then best available.

I just don't think CDT is best available at top3 pick and don't think ruckman are worth top 3 picks unless they're genuine freaks like Nic Nat, and CDT is certainly not that.

CDT lost the ruck battle against Louis Emmett in R1 of Coates talent league. He is weak in terms of winning ruck contests, and makes up for it by being a 4th midfielder around the ground. The closes comparison for CDT is English or Grundy.

Do you want to spend a top 3 pick on a Tim English/Brodie Grundy clone, because I do not.

 

[Godfather32]

Where have I ever said that? In fact I've said the opposite, we should go a mid and then best available.

I just don't think CDT is best available at top3 pick and don't think ruckman are worth top 3 picks unless they're genuine freaks like Nic Nat, and CDT is certainly not that.

That's what I'm saying as well. If CDT is the best available then I'm not ruling him out just because he's a ruck. It's a bit early to say he's not imo.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

That's what I'm saying as well. If CDT is the best available then I'm not ruling him out just because he's a ruck. It's a bit early to say he's not imo.

I just don't think CDT is best available.

I was updating my post as you were quoting it, so will copy the edit in here.

CDT lost the ruck battle against Louis Emmett in R1 of Coates talent league. He is weak in terms of winning ruck contests, and makes up for it by being a 4th midfielder around the ground. The closes comparison for CDT is English or Grundy.

If you are sick of our rucks being losing ruck contests week to week, CDT isn't going to help.

Do you want to spend a top 3 pick on a Tim English/Brodie Grundy clone, because I do not.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Not too sure about Barnett as a example. Most people besides our recruiters could see he was absolutely nothing.

 

[eaglevision]

CDT lost the ruck battle against Louis Emmett in R1 of Coates talent league. He is weak in terms of winning ruck contests, and makes up for it by being a 4th midfielder around the ground. The closes comparison for CDT is English or Grundy.

Did you actually watch that game or are you just going on the hit out stats you’ve looked up? CDT annihilated Emmett in the first half and then spent more time around the ground after Calder were 5 goals up at half time. His follow up and spread for a kid his size is amazing. He roves Emmett’s hit outs, kicks a goal on the run out of the ruck from 50 and moves like a midfielder. The hitout stat is absolutely useless in reflecting who the most influential ruckman in that game was, CDT was a clear BOG. I agree with you that we shouldn’t spend a top 3 pick on him but my goodness he is far more impressive than you’re making out.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Did you actually watch that game or are you just going on the hit out stats you’ve looked up? CDT annihilated Emmett in the first half and then spent more time around the ground after Calder were 5 goals up at half time. His follow up and spread for a kid his size is amazing. He roves Emmett’s hit outs, kicks a goal on the run out of the ruck from 50 and moves like a midfielder. The hitout stat is absolutely useless in reflecting who the most influential ruckman in that game was, CDT was a clear BOG. I agree with you that we shouldn’t spend a top 3 pick on him but my goodness he is far more impressive than you’re making out.

Yes, I watched the game. And yes I would take Emmet in terms of being a pure ruck for all the reasons I’ve already stated, and yes I still firmly think drafting CDT (or any ruck) with a top 3 pick is insane.