Certified Legendary Thread 4th Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 26-30 1000hrs @ the MCG

[Bucking Beads]

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I'm still marvelling at both catches by Smith. The reactions needed for the catch off Lyon is something else.
Diving forward late in the game with the test on the line to dismiss Bumrah is out of this world clutch.

Epic catching from Smith. He’s so bloody good in the slips.

 

[Bucking Beads]

You can really sense Marsh playing in’s Sydney and making runs. Then we’ll endure him for another seasons.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

You can really sense Marsh playing in’s Sydney and making runs. Then we’ll endure him for another seasons.

Agree with where you are coming from but let’s say we win in Sydney and win series 3-1 then the overwhelming voice will be they stuck fat with the team and got the result we wanted. This has been how the Aussies have done things for the last 40 years. Harder to get out of the side than get in it.

 

[James Colorado]

This is for all batsman (including openers)

9 centuries in a calendar year for Yousuf...that's an entire career for some players.

Also shows how good Clarke was at his peak. I know that 2012 was boosted by the unbeaten triple, but when he was on he was incredible.

 

[sosos]

This is a bit silly.

He knows how he feels, and that's about it. He doesn't know more than the physios or team docs do. Pretending that the scientists and doctors don't know more than the player themselves - when the player's health and condition is literally their entire ****ing job - is extremely silly.

If a doctor tells you you have cancer, you going to up and tell 'em, "Nope, I know how I feel, and I feel like I don't have cancer."?

It should be a combination of the two. A medical practitioner cannot know everything, and they rely on the honest feedback of the patient.

The cancer analogy is ridiculous as a blood test can definitively ascertain that diagnosis.

 

[Gethelred]

It should be a combination of the two. A medical practitioner cannot know everything, and they rely on the honest feedback of the patient.

This is so obvious to the point of being redundant.

Of COURSE a doctor needs a patient to be honest with them! The problem here is that the patient in question - Mitchell Starc - might not be being honest with themselves about his readiness to play, and that he's more injured than he's willing to admit for any number of reasons.

The cancer analogy is ridiculous as a blood test can definitively ascertain that diagnosis.

... and?

The point being, unless you're a doctor yourself, you're not able to do that blood test for yourself, are you? Are you going to know you've got cancer based purely on feels?

You either trust the experts around you or you don't, and if you don't why do you keep them around?

 

[philreich]

So who do we all like beating more? India or England?

And who will we be barracking for when they play each other in the middle of next year?

 

[philreich]

Watching it now. What deflection? Maybe by 1 mm. Your eyes are playing tricks

You'd make a fantastic AFL umpire.

 

[Burtonsgottago]

Navjot Singh Sidhu, fresh out of jail, weighs in

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Anybody understand exactly what he’s talking about?

 

[AJ_2000]

And who will we be barracking for when they play each other in the middle of next year?

That's easy, slow over rates so they both get docked all their WTC points

 

[StingBitten]

Die hard cricket fan here. In fact my first cousins are Morne and Albie (if you can remember him) Morkel, it's in the blood so to say.

Have been camping since boxing day, out of reception, and only just got a bar now to see the result - my only question is, was this test really as good as I've heard? Is it the best test match played on home soil since the 70s?

Assist my ailing FOMO, but belated joy in watching all 5 days when I get back. Much obliged.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Anybody understand exactly what he’s talking about?

It doesn't take much to upset Indians when their cricket team is losing. A nation of crybabies.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

And who will we be barracking for when they play each other in the middle of next year?

I won't be caring less.

 

[James Colorado]

You'd make a fantastic AFL umpire.

That's in your top 10, Phil.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Anybody understand exactly what he’s talking about?

He misunderstood Travis Head's wicket celebration

 

[Freezin]

Lyon
Murphy
Kuhnemann
Rocchiocioli
Swepson

TSangha sneaks in as well.....Zamps moves down to 7

 

[sabso]

You'd make a fantastic AFL umpire.

Pies supporter; probably is.

 

[Crankyhawk]

I can even hear the snick playing it live (unless someone “enhanced” the footage there)

 

[Crankyhawk]

Marsh is a top 6 bat. So runs are the most important thing.

Marsh this series
73 runs at 10.4.

Marsh in 2024
15 inns 283 runs at 18.8

No one expects him to take heaps of wickets.

But you can't keep being selected if you aren't even contributing with overs to give the others a break.

It's known he can't back up bowling. Clearly managing his work loads. Fitness and injury issues. Speed is now dropping and that limits his chance to be a threat.

Anyone else would be an improvement.

Pick another bowler. Cummins can be the all rounder

 

[sherb]

It should be a combination of the two. A medical practitioner cannot know everything, and they rely on the honest feedback of the patient.

The cancer analogy is ridiculous as a blood test can definitively ascertain that diagnosis.

It can?

 

[Crankyhawk]

It can?

well, for some specific forms (leukaemia and some other haematologic malignancy - yes) but definitely not all cancer (or even most cancer)

 

[MC Extra Dollop]

Marsh is a top 6 bat. So runs are the most important thing.

Marsh this series
73 runs at 10.4.

Marsh in 2024
15 inns 283 runs at 18.8

No one expects him to take heaps of wickets.

But you can't keep being selected if you aren't even contributing with overs to give the others a break.

It's known he can't back up bowling. Clearly managing his work loads. Fitness and injury issues. Speed is now dropping and that limits his chance to be a threat.

Anyone else would be an improvement.

Parking his form for a second, with the three day break and the speculation on Starc's fitness, I think it's a non-negotiable to have a fifth bowler in the lineup who can contribute 30-40 solid overs across the two innings. If we lose the toss and have to bowl first, that's going to put enormous strain on Cummins, Lyon, Boland and Starc. If Marsh can't bowl (and - for the record - he's bowled 33 overs across four tests, more than half of those came in the First Test), then I'm not sure how he can possibly justify his spot in the team.

 

[AJ_2000]

Die hard cricket fan here. In fact my first cousins are Morne and Albie (if you can remember him) Morkel, it's in the blood so to say.

Have been camping since boxing day, out of reception, and only just got a bar now to see the result - my only question is, was this test really as good as I've heard? Is it the best test match played on home soil since the 70s?

Assist my ailing FOMO, but belated joy in watching all 5 days when I get back. Much obliged.

It was a clinker. Ive been thinking about what made it a classic

• The series was poised, either team winning would be massive, but a draw would still suffice.
• Huge crowds enhanced the spectacle. Indian fans showed up and made noise which created a pulsating atmosphere, with the Australian fans responding - the wickets late on day 3 were some enormous roars after a big partnership whittled away our lead
• Konstas lighting up the morning on day one with his electric batting
• Periods were batsman were able to plunder, but when wickets fell they would happen in clumps - so the game would tilt but never get away from either team
• The Tails wagging from both sides (first 3 innings) changed the game at a time where you expected things to be wrapped up. Day 4 epitomised this
• Bumrah continiung on with his one man domination with the ball
• It all being set up for day 5 with all 4 results a possibility - which was still the case at tea
• It reminded me of test cricket in the 90s. Played at a slower pace (the opposite of bazball), needing the full 5 days, waiting to see how the pitch played, good conditions for the ball and bat, what tactics would the teams take, how would they adjust, seeing the game tilt each session, to then see it all come together in an hour at the end of the day

It was a ripper of a test for sure

 

[Greenstar5]

Parking his form for a second, with the three day break and the speculation on Starc's fitness, I think it's a non-negotiable to have a fifth bowler in the lineup who can contribute 30-40 solid overs across the two innings. If we lose the toss and have to bowl first, that's going to put enormous strain on Cummins, Lyon, Boland and Starc. If Marsh can't bowl (and - for the record - he's bowled 33 overs across four tests, more than half of those came in the First Test), then I'm not sure how he can possibly justify his spot in the team.

He should be dropped. He's not contributing with either bat or ball.

But assume he's flown to Sydney with the team so I'm guessing he will play.

 

[PhatBoy]

Die hard cricket fan here. In fact my first cousins are Morne and Albie (if you can remember him) Morkel, it's in the blood so to say.

Have been camping since boxing day, out of reception, and only just got a bar now to see the result - my only question is, was this test really as good as I've heard? Is it the best test match played on home soil since the 70s?

Assist my ailing FOMO, but belated joy in watching all 5 days when I get back. Much obliged.

The setting and context for it had a lot to do with that. Best test in Australia since the 70s is a stretch - you could make the argument that after the first half hour India were only level in the game at one point the entire match (when they had Australia 6-90 in their second innings): games like the Gilchrist/Langer Hobart test, the Adelaide 1-run test, ‘Amazing’ Adelaide (God I hate that cringeworthy term - I could see what was going to happen a mile away), and probably others I’m missing - maybe even the Adelaide test where Kohli hit the two centuries and looked like getting them home on day 5 before they lost, the Gabba game where Pant got India home, Boxing Day where Dale Steyn ripped the game apart with bat and ball.

There’s been plenty that were probably as good or better as ‘games’ but yeah the context and atmosphere of this match made it stand out and probably the fallibility of both sides enhanced it a bit too