2nd Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 6-10 1430hrs @ Adelaide Oval

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If Hazelwood is fit then does he come into the side & who does he replace? Starc or Boland?

India changes: Rana for Akash Deep. Ashwin for Sundar.

Rohit looked cooked, like age has well & truly caught up to him but they won't drop him. Surely he bats above Pant though.
Can't be dropping Boland. Hoping we play four quicks.
 

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Best batting average in the team since his recall midway through last year's average, that might be one reason

I could look it up but what is Marsh averaging since call up?
There isn’t many in the Aussie team with a good average in the past 2 years, not even Head. Having Marsh with the best average tells us everything we need to know about how bad we’ve been.
Surely Head’s average is better than Marsh since the recall now?


On another note surely Hazelwood won’t be right to play yet? No one needs a rest either. Rests are completely overrated. If you need one give them one. Don’t just rest players for the sake of ‘rotation’
 
As bad as his first innings in Perth was - and it was - all Marbus was trying to do was similar to what he ended up doing in Adelaide. He took 18 balls to score in Adelaide, clearly a batsman struggling for form trying to see off the toughest time to bat, and hope that eventually runs would come.

50 balls is a long time of course but it’s the same logic.
 
As bad as his first innings in Perth was - and it was - all Marbus was trying to do was similar to what he ended up doing in Adelaide. He took 18 balls to score in Adelaide, clearly a batsman struggling for form trying to see off the toughest time to bat, and hope that eventually runs would come.

50 balls is a long time of course but it’s the same logic.

will only grow in confidence though.

he looked far more agressive in Adelaide, than he did in Perth, so he hopefully that just grows.
 
Can't be dropping Boland. Hoping we play four quicks.

Boland's numbers in Australia are insane and far beyond anyone else.

Absolutely nuts to drop him.

Agree id be dropping Lyon and just going 4 quicks.
 
will only grow in confidence though.

he looked far more agressive than he did in Adelaide, than he did in Perth, so he hopefully that just grows.
I can recall a lot the greats grinding and scraping out of slumps. Best way to find form is hanging around in the middle
 
I can recall a lot the greats grinding and scraping out of slumps. Best way to find form is hanging around in the middle

would be nice if Kawaja and McSweeney can stay in longer so Marnus isn't facing a fresh pill every time too..
 
As bad as his first innings in Perth was - and it was - all Marbus was trying to do was similar to what he ended up doing in Adelaide. He took 18 balls to score in Adelaide, clearly a batsman struggling for form trying to see off the toughest time to bat, and hope that eventually runs would come.

50 balls is a long time of course but it’s the same logic.
Looked to hit the ball more, in Perth he was set on leaving and even got out LBW not offering a shot.
 

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Agree, but there is no law against being a dick head. I know lws change but is there any law saying you cannot give the batter a send off anymore?
It's a breach of the ICC code of conduct. It's been all of four days since someone was punished for giving someone a send-off in a test match...
 
Can't be dropping Boland. Hoping we play four quicks.
Of course you can. He got five wickets for the match, Cummins got seven, Starc eight. Hazelwood is a better international bowler. Boland's great but if you're the fourth of fifth best quick at a period in time, you're a hard luck story.
 
It's a breach of the ICC code of conduct. It's been all of four days since someone was punished for giving someone a send-off in a test match...

So if you knock someones middle stump out of the ground you can't run past the batsman and say on your bike champ anymore?
 
Agree, but there is no law against being a dick head. I know lws change but is there any law saying you cannot give the batter a send off anymore?
I thought they had said they were going to crack down on it, but can’t find a specific law change. Might be more an interpretation, but I’m guessing.
 
So if you knock someones middle stump out of the ground you can't run past the batsman and say on your bike champ anymore?
Piss weak i reckon. as long as they dont cross any racial, sexual etc boundaries why cant they sledge a bit. Adds theatre and passion. Merv used to run past them and give them a spray that would require more beeps than words
 
Talk about taking the fun out of the sport, so glad I played in the 80's and 90's.

Code of conduct rules from the ICC

2.5 Using language, actions or gestures which disparage or which could provoke an aggressive reaction from a batter upon his/her dismissal during an International Match.

Note: Article 2.5 includes any language, action or gesture used by a Player and directed towards a batter upon his/her dismissal which has the potential to provoke an aggressive reaction from the dismissed batter, whether or not any reaction results, or which could be considered to disparage or demean the dismissed batter, regardless of whether the batter him/herself feels disparaged or demeaned (in other words, a ‘send-off’). Without limitation, Article 2.5 includes: (a) excessive celebration directed at and in close proximity to the dismissed batter; (b) verbally abusing the dismissed batter; and (c) pointing or gesturing towards the pavilion. Nothing in this Article 2.5 is, however, intended to stop Players celebrating, in an appropriate fashion, the dismissal of the opposing team’s batter.
 
Talk about taking the fun out of the sport, so glad I played in the 80's and 90's.

Code of conduct rules from the ICC

2.5 Using language, actions or gestures which disparage or which could provoke an aggressive reaction from a batter upon his/her dismissal during an International Match.

Note: Article 2.5 includes any language, action or gesture used by a Player and directed towards a batter upon his/her dismissal which has the potential to provoke an aggressive reaction from the dismissed batter, whether or not any reaction results, or which could be considered to disparage or demean the dismissed batter, regardless of whether the batter him/herself feels disparaged or demeaned (in other words, a ‘send-off’). Without limitation, Article 2.5 includes: (a) excessive celebration directed at and in close proximity to the dismissed batter; (b) verbally abusing the dismissed batter; and (c) pointing or gesturing towards the pavilion. Nothing in this Article 2.5 is, however, intended to stop Players celebrating, in an appropriate fashion, the dismissal of the opposing team’s batter.
Safest way would be run up and apolgise to the batsmen and offer a handshake and/or hug and light a candle for the fallen stumps as a gesture of sportsmanship and unity
 
Looked to hit the ball more, in Perth he was set on leaving and even got out LBW not offering a shot.

He did but his approach was the more or less the same and they just bowled too well to some extent - he tried to make them bowl to him and they just didn’t. In Adelaide he was patient, disciplined, got a few shots away and build some confidence and they bowled more balls he could hit.

It was a good knock
 
Boland's numbers in Australia are insane and far beyond anyone else.

Absolutely nuts to drop him.

Agree id be dropping Lyon and just going 4 quicks.
You pick your best 3 quicks and a spinner. Bad luck for Boland but that's how it goes. One of the last places you leave a spinner out is in Brisbane.
 

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