2nd Test Border Gavaskar Trophy December 6-10 1430hrs @ Adelaide Oval

[corbies]

IIRC it was a couple of overs before lunch break. So he was like a night watchman protecting the batters, but for lunch instead.

I don’t know if they genuinely got confused and thought it was stumps…or they were trying to make a “lunch watchman “ a thing….

I can remember you mentioning this at some point before and I went looking for the match. The only one that I could find was NSWs 2nd innings of this match and Bracken comes out at 3 just after tea some 32 overs before stumps on day 2.

NSW vs VIC Cricket Scorecard at Sydney, December 19 - 21, 2002

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get New South Wales vs Victoria cricket scorecard, Pura Cup 2002/03 dated December 19 - 21, 2002.

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However it doesn't match to your memory of the lunch watchman so maybe I can't find the match you're referring to.

 

[Bletch]

The funny thing about the monster bats these days, heavier and with extra power built into the blade that the older generations never had access to, is the flourishing bat movements prior to the ball delivery. Completely irrelevant to the actual bat/ball contact moment that triggers runs.

Small backlift, straight bat, and just move the weight forward a little and the ball will speed to the boundary.

Regarding Vaughan's suggestion of 4 day tests, I love seeing bowlers bowling sides out, rather than batting for days, as a spectacle.

But test cricket can be a 5 day grind to a gripping crescendo where all results can still be in play in the last hour of 30.

There's no higher accolade for a test team than to play in one of those. And I would never support anything that could diminish that kind of game. 4 days always means one team has been skittled twice.

Would also destroy the chances of seeing top order batsman compiling double and triple centuries, because what captain would ever let a 1st innings go for more than two days?

Vaughan is just parroting his employer's wishes. Same as Tubby did. And pretty much any of the TV commentators. The broadcasting networks don't want to commit to 5 days. I'd be more interested to hear opinions of ex-test players who don't have TV gigs, see what they think. I'd bet the resounding answer would be to stick with the 5-day format.

 

[Cleavy]

I can remember you mentioning this at some point before and I went looking for the match. The only one that I could find was NSWs 2nd innings of this match and Bracken comes out at 3 just after tea some 32 overs before stumps on day 2.

NSW vs VIC Cricket Scorecard at Sydney, December 19 - 21, 2002

Live Cricket Scoreboard: Get New South Wales vs Victoria cricket scorecard, Pura Cup 2002/03 dated December 19 - 21, 2002.

www.espncricinfo.com

However it doesn't match to your memory of the lunch watchman so maybe I can't find the match you're referring to.

that was a good result

 

[big_e]

Vaughan is just parroting his employer's wishes. Same as Tubby did. And pretty much any of the TV commentators. The broadcasting networks don't want to commit to 5 days. I'd be more interested to hear opinions of ex-test players who don't have TV gigs, see what they think. I'd bet the resounding answer would be to stick with the 5-day format.

A test lasting until day 5 is a rarity, though.

The case of the shrinking Test match

From an average of 331 overs per decisive Test match in the 1990s, the figure has dropped to 295 since the start of 2020

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Also it's a fairly heroic assumption to say that a test that lasts until day 5 is a better test match. I dare say the number of five-day tests where all results are possible on the fifth afternoon would be small.

 

[Cleavy]

Gabba pitch to have traditional life and bounce: curator | cricket.com.au

Australia and India are set to be greeted with a traditional Gabba wicket for the third Test,...

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let's see how the pitch goes...

 

[010203]

Gabba pitch to have traditional life and bounce: curator | cricket.com.au

Australia and India are set to be greeted with a traditional Gabba wicket for the third Test,...

www.cricket.com.au

let's see how the pitch goes...

I hope it's better than the pitch there for the test against South Africa in 2022. Nobody wants a road but that pitch was too far the other way.

 

[Rookie]

Are you thinking put him at 5, Head at 6 then maybe a Hardie/Webster or J Edwards coming in at 7?

Head's a gun at five, I wouldn't move him unless it's on the subcontinent. I just think it would be a more natural position for Carey than seven. Batting Carey at six and the all-rounder at 7 seems a good compromise.

Webster's great with the lower order, Hardie's more a top order bat, I haven't seen enough about Edwards to comment.

 

[Cleavy]

If Hazlewood is passed fit, I'd want an all-rounder who can bowl in the team in case he doesn't last the match.

 

[Trojan90]

But…

Mitchell Marsh 'ready to bowl as much' as Australia need him to in Brisbane

"Right now, the back is feeling as good as it has felt," Marsh says ahead of the Brisbane Test against India

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[The Terrible Thinker]

But…

Mitchell Marsh 'ready to bowl as much' as Australia need him to in Brisbane

"Right now, the back is feeling as good as it has felt," Marsh says ahead of the Brisbane Test against India

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No confidence by Cummins on his bowling abilities with only 2 overs bowled in this innings and his batting abilities. Surely he doesn't stay in the side for the next test or any future tests.

Is there no other all-rounders tearing it up in the domestic leagues?

 

[Lunchtime]

Vaughan is just parroting his employer's wishes. Same as Tubby did. And pretty much any of the TV commentators. The broadcasting networks don't want to commit to 5 days. I'd be more interested to hear opinions of ex-test players who don't have TV gigs, see what they think. I'd bet the resounding answer would be to stick with the 5-day format.

Taylor has been mentioning 4 day Test matches for the past 20 odd years. It hasn't been a new thing for him to say.

 

[celestial]

Just go out there and play. They have had enough time for lunch. This is where the cricket laws must have some common sense baked into it.