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By comparison to those two we have been very competitive, in games for the most part , even with 16 injuries . These two get smashed from the get go . Since beating swans , we lost to injuryNorf/Horf are prime examples as to why you don't gut your list, Both are bottom 2 for a reason & both have been listless all year, Horf only won last week as they played Norf. As for those you mentioned, 1 did gut their list & the other 2 never "bottomed out" & instead traded in some real B/C graders that are only taking games off kids (esp the Aints). look at Essendoom, they have done this for a decade & as it stands they are still a middle table side. In our case we invested in the Draft while at the top (despite what the "experts" want us to believe, funnily enough they are calling for us to go the "full Norf" route, no doubt so they can slam us for it in 3-4 yrs time when it backfires) and those kids are now getting a decent run at it. We need to keep investing in that area & keep building our next crop going fwd, especially this yr & next.
We need a hard nut midfielder who can get the pill and deliver it properly to our forwards without turning it over all the time but unfortunately they don't grow on trees i'm afraid.Can we package a bunch of our duds and lower first round pick for Will Day?
He’s exactly what we need
Ned Moyle from the Gold Coast should be a serious target
BroadIt happens.
Look at Bakes and Lambert.
Both WA sides who are chasing him now could've got him for nothing.
Same applies too Lambo.Right under Carltoons noses.
Maybe because they drafted Read (with a massive tank) from their academy who may jump the queue behind Witts.Why would he come to Richmond to Ruck behind Nank
Maybe he can go to another club where they need a Ruckman now ?Maybe because they drafted Read (with a massive tank) from their academy who may jump the queue behind Witts.
Why would he come to Richmond to Ruck behind Nank
Better than Samson Ryan ? I think our needs are elsewhereNed Moyle from the Gold Coast should be a serious target
Clubs don’t trade out their captains , grow upYour right.
We should trade Nank
Trade Nank to the saints for their 2nd rounder & any additional later pick upgrades we can swindle. Trade Broad + our 3rd rounder for a mid-teams 2nd rounder.
Then, package Baker, the saints 2nd rounder + the ??? teams 2nd rounder to the Eagles for their 1st rounder if its pick 1-3.
Then, the club could trade Rioli + our 2nd rounder to the Suns for their first rounder + Moyle
Then, we can trade Pick 8 , Short & use the later pick upgrades to fill out a trade for JUH.
Would give us Pick 2,3, JUH + Moyle, with a massive chance of getting another top 3 & very early 2nd the following season. These moves combined with Balta Bolton
Great idea Gun
It happens all the time with former AFL players. Umps/players want their 10 seconds of fame. Scott Cummings played a couple of games for my club after he retired. He had a shot at goal from about 60 out and hit the post. He yelled out "f***" and the ump sent him off.Staying fit, still playing footy, flying the flag for a teammate and ultimately falling victim to an overzealous ump who saw a big name and wanted to card him to inflate his own ego?
Seems like the exact type of thing you want from someone guiding others if you ask me
Yeah right, so all the other teams recruiters also had their heads up their clacker? Hindsight is such a wonderful thingDoubt they’d let him go tbh , he’s a great example of our recruiters heads up their cracker with tall prospects , he was a bloody rookie he
I was talking in generic sense that there’s talls out there beyond the ND , our actions would suggest we gave up that , there’s no one any good over 5”2Yeah right, so all the other teams recruiters also had their heads up their clacker? Hindsight is such a wonderful thing
He's got a much higher ceiling than Ryan.Better than Samson Ryan ? I think our needs are elsewhere
I could see him heading to Hawthorn or Geelong and getting the number one role.Maybe he can go to another club where they need a Ruckman now ?
Ryan Griffin, Jeff Hogg and Leigh Colbert are 3 off the top of my headClubs don’t trade out their captains , grow up
I know that this is a sarcastic post but I am curious why you went Nank to Saints? Out of all the teams they are one with a pretty settled ruckman no?Your right.
We should trade Nank
Trade Nank to the saints for their 2nd rounder & any additional later pick upgrades we can swindle. Trade Broad + our 3rd rounder for a mid-teams 2nd rounder.
Then, package Baker, the saints 2nd rounder + the ??? teams 2nd rounder to the Eagles for their 1st rounder if its pick 1-3.
Then, the club could trade Rioli + our 2nd rounder to the Suns for their first rounder + Moyle
Then, we can trade Pick 8 , Short & use the later pick upgrades to fill out a trade for JUH.
Would give us Pick 2,3, JUH + Moyle, with a massive chance of getting another top 3 & very early 2nd the following season. These moves combined with Balta Bolton
Great idea Gun
I think that people keep forgetting and keep overlooking the most recent example of how to actually build a list to be competitive ASAP. GWS is prime example of building a list and having it essentially robbed of a Grand Final spot because "the dogs are a great story". The fact that they can be compared to GC and other teams that have cut deep is great as a comparison.Norf/Horf are prime examples as to why you don't gut your list, Both are bottom 2 for a reason & both have been listless all year, Horf only won last week as they played Norf. As for those you mentioned, 1 did gut their list & the other 2 never "bottomed out" & instead traded in some real B/C graders that are only taking games off kids (esp the Aints). look at Essendoom, they have done this for a decade & as it stands they are still a middle table side. In our case we invested in the Draft while at the top (despite what the "experts" want us to believe, funnily enough they are calling for us to go the "full Norf" route, no doubt so they can slam us for it in 3-4 yrs time when it backfires) and those kids are now getting a decent run at it. We need to keep investing in that area & keep building our next crop going fwd, especially this yr & next.
And Wayne Carey ... oops.Ryan Griffin, Jeff Hogg and Leigh Colbert are 3 off the top of my head
The value of Baker at Freo IMO would be the forward leader to play alongside Treacy and co. It would defeat the purpose of the trade if they traded out TreacyThe occasional A grader falls out of the tree(Cameron/Lynch).Prefer too keep all our picks and I wouldn't be against getting someone like Treacy as part of the trade for Baker.
Yes much better ruck than SamsonBetter than Samson Ryan ? I think our needs are elsewhere
Nank might be elsewhere next yearWhy would he come to Richmond to Ruck behind Nank
Nank often injured aWhy would he come to Richmond to Ruck behind Nank