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The cost mentioned may not be all to do with the actual new Gabba Stadium.
When you look at the overall proposed changes to the city of Brisbane and the economy impact the costs make more sense
Extensive walkways connecting Southbank and Kangaroo point may be included in the costs.
A school has to be relocated and the heritage buildings (School etc) within the precinct need to be refurbished and repurposed and integrated into the operations of the Gabba Stadium.
Yes, it is expensive, but Australia's 3rd largest city needs to grow with the times.
The existing Gabba's life would have ended in around 15/20 years anyhow. Just starting the process 10 years early.
It will be a complete change to the Woolloongabba/Sth. Brisbane area surrounding The Gabba
Pathways to link The Gabba to Southbank and Kangaroo Point
Southbank will soon have a bridge linking the new $3.6 Billion "The Star" Casino. Both expected to open later part of 2023 early 2024.
Link to the casino site

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For those that want a more in-depth take on The Gabba development see the link below

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We will get a better understanding of the cost later this year when:
  • A competitive tender process with the market is expected to commence in the second half of 2023 at which point a final design process for the Gabba will get underway.
  • Construction is likely to take four years from 2026 and be ready for use by 2030.

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Unless they're planning to build overpasses on the road crossings along Stanley St (in particular the intersection next to the Morrison), that "Walkable Connection" is a waste of time and resources (it already exists with existing pathways).
 
stmookeyj said:
Unless they're planning to build overpasses on the road crossings along Stanley St (in particular the intersection next to the Morrison), that "Walkable Connection" is a waste of time and resources (it already exists with existing pathways).
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That is certainly a tricky group of roads to get a "walkable connection". The problem area you mentioned - Brown color
Being: Leopard street, City access to freeway off Stanley, and the freeway itself. Whether you go over/under or both
All those would need a huge clearance to cover large trucks/buses.
You would think installing more lights in that section would create traffic chaos.

The alternate path in my unqualified view may be go down Vulture Street towards Southbank. Red color
Vulture street already crosses the freeway at that point
Their is spare land to link up (and off) to the bikeway again mentioned below (separate new pedestrian section) Red into blue dots

Also their is an existing pedestrian pathway to Leopard street from the construction site. This already crosses the freeway see pink dots.
But according to the plan they look like going the expensive way and completely crossing the freeway exit ramp and also over Vulture street

Also they look like they are going to utilize /duplicate the SE freeway bikeway for pedestrians in some fashion. My orange circle and a few dots
That is on the Morrison Hotel side of the main freeway and already crosses the freeway entrance and the SE busway.
Their is also an offshoot that comes out at Allen Street opposite The Mater carpark

That is just me spending a bit of time on Google maps
I am sure with some smart people involved, and used to seeing problems and finding a way, they will come up with something workable

Remember the map is the State Government outlook on what they would like regarding "walkable connection".
Tenders start in the 2nd half of 2023. Companies will have their own view with most likely a better solution

The other thing is it may not be part of the tender process. It could be the BCC and State Government with Commonwealth government splitting the costs. Either way competent people should find a good solution

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Anyone know good area to park near the GABBA on match days? I am happy to pay.


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Lions narrow search to two as decision on home venue looms

CEO Greg Swann expects to know by the end of the AFL season where Brisbane will play its home games during the Gabba redevelopment
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The Lions will play games at either its new training and administration base at Springfield or an upgraded RNA Showgrounds in the centre of the city, CEO Greg Swann said on Friday.

Brisbane originally started with four options as its temporary home, including Gold Coast's Heritage Bank Stadium and a possibly upgraded Queensland Sport and Athletic Centre at Nathan, 15km south of the city.

Whichever venue is settled on would hold somewhere between 20,000-24,000 spectators, significantly down from the Gabba's capacity of 36,000.

"We'll be out of the Gabba for four years … but the upside is we go back into a 55,000-seat brand new stadium.
 
kranger said:
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Lions narrow search to two as decision on home venue looms

CEO Greg Swann expects to know by the end of the AFL season where Brisbane will play its home games during the Gabba redevelopment
www.afl.com.au www.afl.com.au

The Lions will play games at either its new training and administration base at Springfield or an upgraded RNA Showgrounds in the centre of the city, CEO Greg Swann said on Friday.

Brisbane originally started with four options as its temporary home, including Gold Coast's Heritage Bank Stadium and a possibly upgraded Queensland Sport and Athletic Centre at Nathan, 15km south of the city.

Whichever venue is settled on would hold somewhere between 20,000-24,000 spectators, significantly down from the Gabba's capacity of 36,000.

"We'll be out of the Gabba for four years … but the upside is we go back into a 55,000-seat brand new stadium.
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Excellent. The two worst options have been ruled out. Either of the two left would be acceptable to me.
 
kranger said:
Yep, you’ve got the right one.

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Doesn't look like it's changed much since 1987 images. Hopefully we see some mock up images of what it may look like with renovations
 
I've never been to The Gabba, are the facilities and stands in poor condition? What is it like to say Carrara Stadium or other stadiums?
 

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Big Sauce 21 said:
100% no chance I'm traveling out there.
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Big Sauce 21, you are giving the impression that it is located out in the sticks somewhere.
EDIT: Sorry Big Sauce 22, I was reading your comment the wrong way round.
You were referring to Springfield which is 32klm from Brisbane CBD.
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For the non-Brisbane people on BF the RNA showgrounds it is 10 minutes' drive from the CBD.
New rail station will be completed by the time The Gabba is scheduled to be demolished.
The new Exhibition rail station will be part of the Cross River Rail project incorporating a new underground rail station at The Gabba.
The station is to be located behind the Grandstand on the right image below.

Most posters on Lions BF prefer this site (because it is central) but it needs a lot of money to bring it up to AFL & Cricket standard.
Then you have the seating/new grandstands which will require a huge investment.

If selected it will have an odd shaped AFL field due to land restrictions.
So will QSAC another contender but at least it is owned by the State Government.
The RNA site is not owned by the State government so any money spent will be a gift to the owners being the RNA.
The Brisbane Lord Mayor has been pushing hard for this site. He says $80 million but i think that is just a guess.

Yesterday's announcement stated The Gabba will be pulled down after the ashes test in 2025.
So, any new AFL/Cricket venue will need to be up and running by March 2026
That is only 28 months away.
Because of this short timeframe i still think Carrara will be used.
Either initially until construction completed or just make that the venue.

All guesswork until they actually announce a decision and time is not their friend.


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sydney_gws said:
They can't do in sections like Geelong Stadium?
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Cheaper to do a rebuild.
A complete rebuild allows them to raise the level that allows 500 carparks underneath. that's just one positive.
Also raising the level allows easy access over a major road being Main Street. No need to interrupt traffic game days.
Those two bridges also connect the new rail station see "Level bridge stadium to station connection" image below.
Below link to what was announced yesterday. No firewall like the Courier Mail.


It is a fairly informative and is set out in an easy reading brochure style.
They explain the four options including the costs.
Clearly the option chosen was the best.
Page 4-6 of 48 pages shows the options including your query.

This is the Governments plans being the minimum they will require for tenders.
I expect the end result will be better when you get other companies supplying their plans.

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Section 5 said:
Big Sauce 21, you are giving the impression that it is located out in the sticks somewhere.

For the non-Brisbane people on BF it is 10 minutes' drive from the CBD.
New rail station will be completed by the time The Gabba is scheduled to be demolished.
The new Exhibition rail station will be part of the Cross River Rail project incorporating a new underground rail station at The Gabba.
The station is to be located behind the Grandstand on the right image below.

Most posters on Lions BF prefer this site (because it is central) but it needs a lot of money to bring it up to AFL & Cricket standard.
Then you have the seating/new grandstands which will require a huge investment.

If selected it will have an odd shaped AFL field due to land restrictions.
So will QSAC another contender but at least it is owned by the State Government.
The RNA site is not owned by the State government so any money spent will be a gift to the owners being the RNA.
The Brisbane Lord Mayor has been pushing hard for this site. He says $80 million but i think that is just a guess.

Yesterday's announcement stated The Gabba will be pulled down after the ashes test in 2025.
So, any new AFL/Cricket venue will need to be up and running by March 2026
That is only 28 months away.
Because of this short timeframe i still think Carrara will be used.
Either initially until construction completed or just make that the venue.

All guesswork until they actually announce a decision and time is not their friend.


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If they do put money into a 2nd site, making it the primary Womens Oval should be a priority.

However I just can't see the point of spending the money when they'll still get better crowds at Carrara.
 
Underarm said:
If they do put money into a 2nd site, making it the primary Womens Oval should be a priority.

However I just can't see the point of spending the money when they'll still get better crowds at Carrara.
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Brighton Homes Arena at Springfield is the Lions women's site. The PF v Cats is being played their tonight. Capacity 10K
State of the art facilities including separate men's and women's changerooms.
BHA is the Lions club preference to play at during the rebuild but to be honest it has a lot going against it public transport wise.
End of the trainline but the train station is very close to the ground.
Parking issues just like Carrara but only has 1 grandstand with 600 capacity.
It is 40 minutes from Brisbane CBD so once again not great for anyone on the northside of Brisbane.

CARRARA
Lions' supporters hate going to Carrara. Me included and that is just for 1 game a year.
Travelling via the M1 say from the CBD is anything from 1 to 1.5 hours' drive. Add another 1/2 hour if living on the northside.
No street parking within 1.5 klm of the ground. Carrara parking precinct 15 minutes max.
The train is 2 klm from the ground so need to get shuttle buses to the ground.
Suns games are regularly afternoon or twilight games.
Opposition supporters are always looking into the sun for the whole game or for 1 or 2 quarters.
Another good reason for opposition supporters not attending and crowds over the years reflect this.

Having said all that, travelling to Carrara with 6 (7) night and 5 (4) twilight games maybe better seating wise for Lions fans.
You at least get to sit in the Suns membership area and choose better seating in the other ground sections for season members.
They could increase the capacity at the open northern end. Capacity presently 23K

I don't see great seating options at the other three of the 4 sites in contention. Depends on money spent i suppose.
RNA Showgrounds. Talk is the site can possibly get to 20K.
QSAC presently used for athletics but only one grandstand is used for the public. Capacity up to 48k but needs big funding to make it safe.
Lions site at Brighton homes arena. Presently 600 under cover (grandstand) and another 100 (guess) viewing from clubhouse balcony.
 
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Section 5 said:
Big Sauce 21, you are giving the impression that it is located out in the sticks somewhere.

For the non-Brisbane people on BF it is 10 minutes' drive from the CBD.
New rail station will be completed by the time The Gabba is scheduled to be demolished.
The new Exhibition rail station will be part of the Cross River Rail project incorporating a new underground rail station at The Gabba.
The station is to be located behind the Grandstand on the right image below.

Most posters on Lions BF prefer this site (because it is central) but it needs a lot of money to bring it up to AFL & Cricket standard.
Then you have the seating/new grandstands which will require a huge investment.

If selected it will have an odd shaped AFL field due to land restrictions.
So will QSAC another contender but at least it is owned by the State Government.
The RNA site is not owned by the State government so any money spent will be a gift to the owners being the RNA.
The Brisbane Lord Mayor has been pushing hard for this site. He says $80 million but i think that is just a guess.

Yesterday's announcement stated The Gabba will be pulled down after the ashes test in 2025.
So, any new AFL/Cricket venue will need to be up and running by March 2026
That is only 28 months away.
Because of this short timeframe i still think Carrara will be used.
Either initially until construction completed or just make that the venue.

All guesswork until they actually announce a decision and time is not their friend.


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I was talking Springfield that I wouldn't travel to. Bowen Hills would be ideal to attend, but geez it needs a lot of work.
 
I’d say that BHA is shaping as the favourite. This article is a few months old, although it said the choice is down to BHA or Showgrounds. It mentioned that the selected venue would hold 20-24k spectators (I assume after temporary seating is installed). If BHA can have a capacity that high then it doesn’t make sense to play at Heritage Bank. I don’t think the Suns or AFL would want the Lions playing on the coast, and stealing the Suns’ thunder, anyway. With the extra time and money required to develop the Showgrounds, I just can’t see that being chosen when it’ll only be used for a few years (even if it has a far superior location and transport networks).

Lions narrow search to two as decision on home venue looms

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Underarm said:
If they do put money into a 2nd site, making it the primary Womens Oval should be a priority.

However I just can't see the point of spending the money when they'll still get better crowds at Carrara.
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Totally agree with all the points mentioned by Section 5 in #394 re Metricon, Brisbane Lions can not play their home games in another city for 4 years, that would be madness.

I would hazard a guess that 9 out of 10 Lions fans would be very much anti Metricon as a home ground option.

RNA is the no brainer solution.
 
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