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Watched part 2 of Nemesis tonight covering Turnbull's prime minister-ship.
Reporter Mark Willacy asks all the questions and you rarely hear his voice during the programs asking them and never see him asking them, started part 1 and part 2 asking Liberal, LNP and a few National Party members, to use one word to describe Abbott and Turnbull respectively, and I assume part 3 on Morrison will start the same way.
The words used for Turnbull tonight were;
Intellect/Intelligent/Smart, Ambitious x 3, Ruthless x 2, Determined, Flawed, Progressive, Urbane, Selfish, Superficial by Abetz, Narcissism, Vision x 2, Disappointing x 2, Complex, Relentless, Negotiator, Passenger by Tim Wilson, Considerate by Howard, Smooth as Silk by Barnaby and Integrity.
When Willacy lists them to Turnbull, he smirks and says, "well I think its a pretty good list." Then you hear Willacy ask Morrison the question and he says - "well he was a friend." Was? Morrison smirks and says "maybe one day we will be again."
After the Peter Dutton challenge, Willacy asks Turnbull to describe Dutton in one word and he ponders over it for 4 or 5 seconds and says "Thug."
Right at the end of the show, Willacy asks him for one word to describe Morrison, he says Scott Morrison, pauses, one word! then ponders it for 7 or 8 seconds and says 'Duplicitous" (and program ends and up comes the credits).
Turnbull in his arrogance/confidence didn't listen to his colleagues closely enough over his term as PM and had a tin ear at the end when they advised him not to do a couple of things including call a spill motion at the start of the last parliamentary week in August 2018, before they all headed off home for a few weeks. Classic Malcolm bull in a China shop approach.
Dutton stood and lost 35 v 48, but the damage was done and some of key people started agitating, 9 front benchers resigning, and 3 days later, after initially refusing to call another party meeting, unless they got a majority, 43 signatures to call the party meeting. After Warren Entsch told the agitators, if you get 42, bring it to me and I will be sign as # 43, a meeting was called Turnbull who had planned to stop Dutton. He decided he would call for a spill motion do you want me to stay on as leader. The spill motion was 45 for spill v 40 for Turnbull.
Turnbull basically saw Dutton as another Abbott and would be another wrecker. He was so determoned to stop him, that he drew up plans to go to the GG and call an election right in the middle of this battle, but sleeping on it, decided against it that it wasn't a good idea, and that he probably would have to pay for the election campaign himself - again.
So he stood aside and Julie Bishop, Dutton and Morrison ran for the leadership. He basically, as well his supporters, did what they could to stop Dutton. Bishop only got 11 votes and she dropped out of the next round as no one got a majority. Morrison won the second round 45 v 40.
Over the weekend I spoke to a mate about the first part and we debated what would come out in the second part. I told him about the 1991 Good Weekend article that I read when it was republished in 2014 in the SMH celebrating the 30 best features over 30 years of the magazine and sent him the link. I posted it in this thread back in November 2020.
We text each other a couple of times tonight and basically agreed on two things;
1. quite a few of the phrases and opinions expressed about a 36 year old Gung-ho lawyer/merchant banker in 1991 were repeated in the program, the old, the more things change the more they stay the same and
2. All are as bad as each other.
Watching it, I kept thinking of that classic line of Michael Corleone from Godfather III - real power can't be given, it must be taken!
Here is the link to the 1991 article, the opening of which, I've never read an equivalent start to an article/feature like this one.
www.smh.com.au
Suddenly, he can turn. The charmer becomes the menacer, the defender of freedom of speech its most sophisticated challenger. He laughs, and disarms, but always be on guard. Remember, he can turn. Malcolm Turnbull, at 36, is one of the most powerful lawyers in Australia, and inspires a wide range of feelings among those who know him.
"He's a prick," says ex-business-partner Nicholas Whitlam, who says he is being restrained in what he says so as not to fuel an ongoing feud.
"He's wonderful, kind, generous, warm and friendly," says actor Kate Fitzpatrick, a longtime friend.
"He's a turd (haha that was repeated tonight)," says former Labor senator Jim McClelland. "He's easy to loathe, he's a s**t, he'd devour anyone for breakfast, he's on the make, he's cynical, he's offensively smug. He's a good exploiter of publicity, although I applauded the way he ran Spycatcher against [Margaret] Thatcher. He wasn't fazed by who he was up against." (Says Turnbull of McClelland, "I'm very sorry that many years of excessive consumption of alcohol and professional disappointment have reduced what was once a sharp wit into nothing better than gutter abuse. He's a bitter old man.")
"Malcolm doesn't create neutral feelings," says Trevor Sykes, editor-in-chief of Kerry Packer's Australian Business. "I don't think you are going to find a neutral commentator. The merchant banking world is the most bitchy I know. Malcolm, being a particularly abrasive character who doesn't suffer fools gladly, was always going to suffer his fair share of detractors."
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Cover of Good Weekend, April 13, 1991.
Reporter Mark Willacy asks all the questions and you rarely hear his voice during the programs asking them and never see him asking them, started part 1 and part 2 asking Liberal, LNP and a few National Party members, to use one word to describe Abbott and Turnbull respectively, and I assume part 3 on Morrison will start the same way.
The words used for Turnbull tonight were;
Intellect/Intelligent/Smart, Ambitious x 3, Ruthless x 2, Determined, Flawed, Progressive, Urbane, Selfish, Superficial by Abetz, Narcissism, Vision x 2, Disappointing x 2, Complex, Relentless, Negotiator, Passenger by Tim Wilson, Considerate by Howard, Smooth as Silk by Barnaby and Integrity.
When Willacy lists them to Turnbull, he smirks and says, "well I think its a pretty good list." Then you hear Willacy ask Morrison the question and he says - "well he was a friend." Was? Morrison smirks and says "maybe one day we will be again."
After the Peter Dutton challenge, Willacy asks Turnbull to describe Dutton in one word and he ponders over it for 4 or 5 seconds and says "Thug."
Right at the end of the show, Willacy asks him for one word to describe Morrison, he says Scott Morrison, pauses, one word! then ponders it for 7 or 8 seconds and says 'Duplicitous" (and program ends and up comes the credits).
Turnbull in his arrogance/confidence didn't listen to his colleagues closely enough over his term as PM and had a tin ear at the end when they advised him not to do a couple of things including call a spill motion at the start of the last parliamentary week in August 2018, before they all headed off home for a few weeks. Classic Malcolm bull in a China shop approach.
Dutton stood and lost 35 v 48, but the damage was done and some of key people started agitating, 9 front benchers resigning, and 3 days later, after initially refusing to call another party meeting, unless they got a majority, 43 signatures to call the party meeting. After Warren Entsch told the agitators, if you get 42, bring it to me and I will be sign as # 43, a meeting was called Turnbull who had planned to stop Dutton. He decided he would call for a spill motion do you want me to stay on as leader. The spill motion was 45 for spill v 40 for Turnbull.
Turnbull basically saw Dutton as another Abbott and would be another wrecker. He was so determoned to stop him, that he drew up plans to go to the GG and call an election right in the middle of this battle, but sleeping on it, decided against it that it wasn't a good idea, and that he probably would have to pay for the election campaign himself - again.
So he stood aside and Julie Bishop, Dutton and Morrison ran for the leadership. He basically, as well his supporters, did what they could to stop Dutton. Bishop only got 11 votes and she dropped out of the next round as no one got a majority. Morrison won the second round 45 v 40.
Over the weekend I spoke to a mate about the first part and we debated what would come out in the second part. I told him about the 1991 Good Weekend article that I read when it was republished in 2014 in the SMH celebrating the 30 best features over 30 years of the magazine and sent him the link. I posted it in this thread back in November 2020.
We text each other a couple of times tonight and basically agreed on two things;
1. quite a few of the phrases and opinions expressed about a 36 year old Gung-ho lawyer/merchant banker in 1991 were repeated in the program, the old, the more things change the more they stay the same and
2. All are as bad as each other.
Watching it, I kept thinking of that classic line of Michael Corleone from Godfather III - real power can't be given, it must be taken!
Here is the link to the 1991 article, the opening of which, I've never read an equivalent start to an article/feature like this one.
Raging Turnbull
In his dual careers as lawyer and merchant banker, Malcolm Turnbull has earned a reputation that inspires a mix of awe, fear and, among some, downright loathing. John Lyons subjects both the facts and the hearsay to cross-examination.
Suddenly, he can turn. The charmer becomes the menacer, the defender of freedom of speech its most sophisticated challenger. He laughs, and disarms, but always be on guard. Remember, he can turn. Malcolm Turnbull, at 36, is one of the most powerful lawyers in Australia, and inspires a wide range of feelings among those who know him.
"He's a prick," says ex-business-partner Nicholas Whitlam, who says he is being restrained in what he says so as not to fuel an ongoing feud.
"He's wonderful, kind, generous, warm and friendly," says actor Kate Fitzpatrick, a longtime friend.
"He's a turd (haha that was repeated tonight)," says former Labor senator Jim McClelland. "He's easy to loathe, he's a s**t, he'd devour anyone for breakfast, he's on the make, he's cynical, he's offensively smug. He's a good exploiter of publicity, although I applauded the way he ran Spycatcher against [Margaret] Thatcher. He wasn't fazed by who he was up against." (Says Turnbull of McClelland, "I'm very sorry that many years of excessive consumption of alcohol and professional disappointment have reduced what was once a sharp wit into nothing better than gutter abuse. He's a bitter old man.")
"Malcolm doesn't create neutral feelings," says Trevor Sykes, editor-in-chief of Kerry Packer's Australian Business. "I don't think you are going to find a neutral commentator. The merchant banking world is the most bitchy I know. Malcolm, being a particularly abrasive character who doesn't suffer fools gladly, was always going to suffer his fair share of detractors."
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Cover of Good Weekend, April 13, 1991.
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