Test Changes for... India 23 Edition + Post-match chat...

[Jim Prideaux]

Boland did bowl well I thought.

Keeping it tight is all well and good, but at the end of the day, you have to take wickets.

Yeah, that’s the one knock, but he wasn’t given enough of a chance I reckon. He was bowling significantly better than Cummins at the time

 

[Jim Prideaux]

He was okay but if that’s all he is then Neser can do that plus he’s a mile better with the bat and let’s not forget Boland in the field cost us

So Neser takes wickets at 12 in Test cricket?

 

[frankrizzo]

Love all the ex players coming out saying we need a 'harder edge' or to 'play/win harder', what a load of rubbish, we simply don't have batters that can play in these conditions, apart from Smith who is elite, and Marnus who I'm confident will make scores this series. We don't play in these conditions often enough (in longer format), we don't train in these conditions, it's no wonder we look like we can't make a total. We also don't have the spin quality to roll India for low scores.

Simply, it's bloody hard to win in India, although capitulations like the first test are just not on, really need to try and remain competitive for the remainder of the series, find a way to scrounge a total, and hope Murphy/Lyon/??? can work together well.

Middle order of katich clarke martyn would be nice around now with gilly coming in after that but even in 04 win we didnt get a bunsen till last test and third test the curator stitched up his own team and gave us wicket we loved.

 

[FRUMPY]

He was okay but if that’s all he is then Neser can do that plus he’s a mile better with the bat and let’s not forget Boland in the field cost us

First dropped catch in tests I think? It was a dolly and cost us but ffs, shit happens, everyone has done it.

Neser isn't even in the squad. Boland is in there to bowl his tight line as he does it better than neser.

Boland bats no 11, who gives a shit if he is a bunny. Neser on these pitches might make 10 or 20 every 4th or 5th inning

Having said that, if it's like this pitch then I'm only playing Cummins and 3 spinners.

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[Silver Tongue]

Boland did bowl well I thought.

Keeping it tight is all well and good, but at the end of the day, you have to take wickets.

Australia looked best when Boland was going for 1 run or less an over with Murphy collecting wickets at the other end. Bowling in combination is the secret in on any surface in any country. They were our best bowling combination in the 1st Test.

 

[Tugga27]

Australia looked best when Boland was going for 1 run or less an over with Murphy collecting wickets at the other end. Bowling in combination is the secret in on any surface in any country. They were our best bowling combination in the 1st Test.

I agree.
But I was talking about if they would chose Boland again over someone else.

Boland was good, but not good enough that he can't be dropped.

 

[doggies ftw]

I thought Boland was really good too but if Green is fit to bowl I’m going 3 spinners and he makes way unfortunately.

 

[Westend]

I thought Boland was really good too but if Green is fit to bowl I’m going 3 spinners and he makes way unfortunately.

yeah me too

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Boland was fine but in India you can’t have Cummins in at 8 when he frankly can’t bat these days

 

[LukeParkerno1]

First dropped catch in tests I think? It was a dolly and cost us but ffs, s**t happens, everyone has done it.

Neser isn't even in the squad. Boland is in there to bowl his tight line as he does it better than neser.

Boland bats no 11, who gives a s**t if he is a bunny. Neser on these pitches might make 10 or 20 every 4th or 5th inning

Having said that, if it's like this pitch then I'm only playing Cummins and 3 spinners.

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Half the reason India won was their bats from 7-10. They put on 200+. You can’t have bunnies in these conditions. It’s why I feel we have a huge issue none of our spinners can bat bat Agar and his bowling is terrible.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Half the reason India won was their bats from 7-10. They put on 200+. You can’t have bunnies in these conditions. It’s why I feel we have a huge issue none of our spinners can bat bat Agar and his bowling is terrible.

Lucky he bats at 11 then? Neser isn’t coming Luke, it’s unfortunate for him, but I struggle to see how he gets a game again without long term injuries/ early retirements.

 

[Westend]

Just thought I would change tack...any chance for morris this series

if the series is gone which looks like it is does he get a chance in the backend of the tour ??

 

[The 747]

Australia looked best when Boland was going for 1 run or less an over with Murphy collecting wickets at the other end. Bowling in combination is the secret in on any surface in any country. They were our best bowling combination in the 1st Test.

Yep bowled 8 overs in partnership and the result was 2/18 or something. Then did not bowl in partnership again.

 

[The 747]

Just thought I would change tack...any chance for morris this series

if the series is gone which looks like it is does he get a chance in the backend of the tour ??

If we have lost the series and there are games to play (likely), yes I would have a look at Morris.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Yep bowled 8 overs in partnership and the result was 2/18 or something. Then did not bowl in partnership again.

Is it Dean Hills who sits up with the coach with the laptop running analysis? You would think he might have noticed that statistic and had it relayed to Cummins who clearly didn't notice ... or was following some preconceived bowling routine ...

I noticed how well Boland and Murphy bowled well in combination despite my 12th Mercury dry cider!!

 

[The 747]

Is it Dean Hills who sits up with the coach with the laptop running analysis? You would think he might have noticed that statistic and had it relayed to Cummins who clearly didn't notice ... or was following some preconceived bowling routine ...

I noticed how well Boland and Murphy bowled well in combination despite my 12th Mercury dry cider!!

I commented at the time that I could not work out WTF Cummins was doing with the field and bowling changes. That phase of the play was the only part of the Indian innings where we looked in control.

 

[corbies]

So Neser takes wickets at 12 in Test cricket?

16 isn't far off tbf.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

16 isn't far off tbf.

Fair call. Still, it’s not the same.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

I really don’t understand the lack of love for Boland. Bowled tight, made them play, reversed it, was unlucky not to have a couple of wickets (1 caught behind, 1 LBW), bowled in partnership.

For some bizarre reason Cummins bowled himself when he was wayward, not swinging it, leaking runs, not taking wickets and over bowled Lyon, who I normally really rate, but was poor in this match.

It was awful captaincy - he seemed to miss Heads input in that regard.

 

[Nuggetz]

I really don’t understand the lack of love for Boland. Bowled tight, made them play, reversed it, was unlucky not to have a couple of wickets (1 caught behind, 1 LBW), bowled in partnership.

For some bizarre reason Cummins bowled himself when he was wayward, not swinging it, leaking runs, not taking wickets and over bowled Lyon, who I normally really rate, but was poor in this match.

It was awful captaincy - he seemed to miss Heads input in that regard.

A bit of ego from cummins.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

A bit of ego from cummins.

Yeah, I dunno, maybe a case of not having a clear picture/ advice.

 

[PT Bar None]

I feel like fixating on how few runs our 9,10,Jack made is kinda missing the elephant in the room.

India's bottom order made so many runs because our bowlers couldn't get them out.
Three of our top six were complete non contributors for the entire match.

I'm far more concerned about those two points and whether we can even solve them with our current squad. The bowlers batting aggregates are a distant fourth.

 

[Bedi]

Warner
Khawaja
Labuschagne
Smith
Head
Green*
Carey
Cummins
Agar
Murphy
Lyon

*Hazlewood/Boland if Green unfit.


Ridiculous to drop Warner after only 1 failure, and we've picked Agar so give him a crack before they bring in an unknown.

 

[akkaps]

Are we all in agreeance that Starc should not return?

 

[The 747]

Are we all in agreeance that Starc should not return?

Pretty sure they will pick him.

Lefty - footmarks for the offies
Can bat
Has ways to take wickets on these pitches*

*Good chance of being carted too