List Mgmt. 2024 GWS Giants List Management - Academy, Free Agent, Trade & Draft

[Danny88]

I went and saw a bit of the VFL on the weekend and it was clear to me we need another quality mid. We had XO and Rowston playing on ball and XO was head and shoulders above Rowston IMO.

Would be good to have another quality option to take ward's midfield minutes when he leaves

 

[Giant Pete]

I went and saw a bit of the VFL on the weekend and it was clear to me we need another quality mid. We had XO and Rowston playing on ball and XO was head and shoulders above Rowston IMO.

Would be good to have another quality option to take ward's midfield minutes when he leaves

I know he’s been injured from the get-go, and he’s so young so we just have no idea, but I see Leake as very similar to Cal. Similar size and shape. Great kick. Can take a mark. Likes the contest.
Gee I hope he can get up and going in the back half of the season in the vfl.

 

[Giant Strides]

There was a weekend pre-champs trial game, a NSW Rams team consisting of Swans & GWS academy players against a South Australia Under 18 team.

Essentially only 2 notable players from GWS academy:

Scouting Notes: South Australia vs. Giants/Swans Academies

South Australia overcame a combined Giants and Swans Academy side in the first of its two Under 18 trials. We took note of the top prospects.

central.rookieme.com

SOUTH Australia has overcome a combined GWS Giants and Sydney Swans Academy outfit to win by 10 points at Thebarton Oval on Sunday. In the first of two trial games, the Under 18 Croweaters led by a single point at the first and final breaks before holding firm to salute 10.11 (71) to 9.7 (61).

SOUTH AUSTRALIA 3.3 | 5.6 | 8.7 | 10.11 (71)
SWANS/GIANTS 3.2 | 6.5 | 8.6 | 9.7 (61)

GOALS:

South Australia: T. Welsh 2, T. Rosenzweig 2, A. Schubert 2, E. Bradley, P. Hargrave, T. Mackay, M. Leray
Giants/Swans: M. Rider 2, C. McCormack, C. Hilton, L. Smith, J. Delana, T. Ryan, N. Hawkins, R. Hamilton

BESTS:

South Australia: B. Camporeale, D. Sharp, J. Newton, A. Schubert, T. Dalmenico, A. Clarke
Giants/Swans: L. Smith, L. Carmichael, N. Hawkins, J. Harrison, H. Podmore-Taylor, J. Delana

GIANTS/SWANS ACADEMIES:

#9 Josaia Delana (Giants Academy)
Midfielder | 176cm | 01/07/2006

Much like his co-captain Harrison, Delana made a strong start to proceedings with polished work around the ball. Despite his small standing, the powerful mover proved a clean first possession winner and withstood pressure to dish the ball off to the outside. He got to showcase his turn of speed on a couple of occasions and hit the scoreboard with an impressive goal in the second quarter, launching home a long-range snap seemingly out of nothing at the top of attacking 50.

#26 Logan Smith (Giants Academy)
Ruck | 204cm | 24/09/2006

Fresh off a terrific three-game stint in the Coates Talent League, Smith was again outstanding and firms as one of, if not the best ruck in the draft pool. The towering tall owned the ruck battle, winning hitouts with his bodywork and reach while also prising clearances when possible. He even got going with some strong marking at both ends of the ground and plucked a grab inside 50 to convert his second quarter goal. He’s in store for a huge National Championships.

 

[Giant Strides]

Allies squad for 2024 Under 18 Championships - GWS Academy just 3 selections: Joey Delana (mid), Logan Smith (ruck) & Cooper Bell (KPF). (#s 11, 40 & 41 in the list below.)

Allies squad announced for 2024 U18 Boys Champs

Reigning title-holders the Allies have announced their squad for the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships – U18 Boys.

www.afl.com.au

SCHEDULE: Please click here to view the fixture for the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships – U18 Boys. Match details are subject to change.

#	NAME	SURNAME	HT	STATE	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
1	Nicholas	Andreacchio	178	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Sydney University
2	Zeke	Uwland	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Burleigh
4	Ricky	Mentha	178	NT	NT Academy Gippsland Power	Morwell
8	Leo	Lombard	178	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach
9	Joe	Harrison	182	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Warners Bay
10	Lachlan	Carmichael	183	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	Mosman
11	Josaia	Delana	176	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Willoughby
12	Taj	Stanley	177	NT	NT Academy Perth	Southern Districts
13	Oliver	Depaoli-Kubank	178	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
14	Geordie	Payne	184	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
16	Sam	Marshall	185	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy Sandringham Dragons	Old Melburnians
20	Daniel	Annable	183	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Redland-Victoria Point
21	Lenny	Douglas	179	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
24	Taj	Murray	199	NT	NT Academy North Adelaide	Nightcliff
25	Fergus	McFadyen	189	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
26	Zai	Millane	188	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Surfers Paradise
27	Waylon	Davey-Motlop	171	NT	NT Academy Oakleigh Chargers	Palmerston
28	Joel	Cochran	195	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	UNSW Eastern Suburbs
29	Caleb	Nancarrow	190	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Cairns City
30	Noah	Chamberlain	192	NSW/ACT	Sydney Swans Academy	East Sydney
31	Ryan	Gilder	191	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Sherwood Districts
32	Jobe	Shanahan	194	NSW/ACT	Bendigo Pioneers	Moama
33	Ty	Gallop	194	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Maroochydore
34	Nathaniel	Sulzberger	187	TAS	Tasmania Devils Sandringham Dragons	North Hobart
36	Ben	Kennedy	186	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	Yarrawonga
37	Josh	Murphy	190	NSW/ACT	Murray Bushrangers	North Albury
38	Oliver	Dean	201	TAS	Tasmania Devils	North Launceston
39	Billy	Richardson	195	QLD	Brisbane Lions Academy	Wilston Grange
40	Logan	Smith	204	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Queanbeyan
41	Cooper	Bell	198	NSW/ACT	GWS Giants Academy	Belconnen
42	Kalani	White	198	QLD	GC Suns Academy	Broadbeach

 

[GWS Goose]

Anyone have an informed opinion on how draftable these guys are

 

[Giant YoYo]

Anyone have an informed opinion on how draftable these guys are

I'd lean towards Josaia being a likely draft prospect based on some media mentions this year.

Club even had a story on him earlier this year.

GIANTS Academy Players Get a Taste for the Big Time

A handful of top GIANTS Academy stars have just completed a two-week block alongside the GIANTS’ AFL side.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

 

[GWS Goose]

I'd lean towards Josaia being a likely draft prospect based on some media mentions this year.

Club even had a story on him earlier this year.

GIANTS Academy Players Get a Taste for the Big Time

A handful of top GIANTS Academy stars have just completed a two-week block alongside the GIANTS’ AFL side.

www.gwsgiants.com.au

Read that at the time

 

[Giant Strides]

Anyone have an informed opinion on how draftable these guys are

Best ask PMBangers.

Their performance during the Under 18 Championships will be telling, as none are "top shelf" options IMO.

From a less-informed perspective:

• Joey Delana has some draftable qualities, but similar to Harvey Thomas, his size (at 176 cms) is a question as to whether he can translate into an inside mid role at AFL level; if not, do we need another mid-come- small forward?
• Logan Smith is a very decent young ruck (described in one article as possibly the best ruck in the draft pool), so his performance during the Champs will be insightful, but the question will be whether we want another young ruck ... even if we ditch Brayden Preuss.
• I think Cooper Bell would need to have a super U18 Champs to come into draft calculations ... at this point in time.

 

[Giant YoYo]

Ex-Bomber ineligible for draft, Pies welcome basketballer, ex-Giant's return blocked

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

ANOTHER GIANTS BIG MAN ON THE WAY?​

GREATER Western Sydney Academy prospect Logan Smith is shaping as one of the first northern Academy players picked in this year's draft after a dominant start to the season.

The 204cm ruckman is a member of the Giants Academy and this week was selected in the Allies squad for the mid-year under-18 championships.

His form for the Giants in their Coates Talent League performances stood out to rival recruiters, with Smith playing three games and averaging 18 disposals and 27 hitouts.

His best performance came in round six against the Murray Bushrangers, when he had 24 disposals, eight clearances and 22 hitouts.

The Giants will get first access to him through their Academy but his progress is seeing clubs view him as one of the best ruckmen in the draft pool.

Greater Western Sydney has had success from its Academy with a run of ruckmen, including current No.1 big man Kieren Briggs and developing talent Nick Madden, who recently re-signed for two more years but has strung together a run of impressive VFL form. – Callum Twomey

 

[PMBangers]

Best ask PMBangers.

Their performance during the Under 18 Championships will be telling, as none are "top shelf" options IMO.

From a less-informed perspective:

• Joey Delana has some draftable qualities, but similar to Harvey Thomas, his size (at 176 cms) is a question as to whether he can translate into an inside mid role at AFL level; if not, do we need another mid-come- small forward?
• Logan Smith is a very decent young ruck (described in one article as possibly the best ruck in the draft pool), so his performance during the Champs will be insightful, but the question will be whether we want another young ruck ... even if we ditch Brayden Preuss.
• I think Cooper Bell would need to have a super U18 Champs to come into draft calculations ... at this point in time.

Pretty good summary. Delana I'd be more confident of making it as a mid than Thomas at the same stage, has a few more tricks athletically to get himself away from contest with the footy, but with his strength for his size I can see a world where he becomes a defender as well

Smith has been really impressive to this point, his endurance for a ruck is really good so his ability to cover ground and get from contest-to-contest in open play is pretty handy. Worth noting that it's not a great year for rucks though which may be inflating the view on him a bit, but I understand why people get excited about that style of ruck.

 

[Giant Pete]

Can we pick up a ruckman in the mid season draft?

 

[Giant Strides]

Can we pick up a ruckman in the mid season draft?

Who are we putting on LTI?

 

[Orange Agent]

Can we pick up a ruckman in the mid season draft?

Who is worth picking up that is better than what we have?

 

[Colonial]

Can we pick up a ruckman in the mid season draft?

We already have a ruck developing.
No point getting another who will just spend time in the VfL.

 

[sydney_gws]

Does anybody think Tim Taranto

14

Tim Taranto

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

4.1

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

5.0

3star

M

1.5

2star

T

3.0

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

15.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

4.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

would want to come back ? I think we miss his toughness at stoppages, tackling around the ground.
Probably unlikely.
Is there anybody on the list that could replicate at least in part what Isaac Heeney

5

Isaac Heeney

Age

28

Ht

185cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

7.7

5star

M

4.9

5star

T

4.1

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

14.3

3star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.5

3star

M

4.8

4star

T

2.5

3star

CL

0.8

3star

D

10.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.8

3star

is doing?

 

[Colonial]

Does anybody think Tim Taranto would want to come back ? I think we miss his toughness at stoppages, tackling around the ground.
Probably unlikely.
Is there anybody on the list that could replicate at least in part what Isaac Heeney is doing?

He is on great money for a long time, we can’t offer him that coin.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Any club would have to be mad to take this problem on

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Does anybody think Tim Taranto would want to come back ? I think we miss his toughness at stoppages, tackling around the ground.
Probably unlikely.
Is there anybody on the list that could replicate at least in part what Isaac Heeney is doing?

Probably not, but pretty sure the tigers would love to get out of the Hopper contract.

But we certainly should chase a mid with the likes of LDU being the dream target.

 

[dlanod]

Any club would have to be mad to take this problem on

But he deserves a second third fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth whateverth chance by the AFL! Some good ol' blokes told me!

 

[Colonial]

But he deserves a second third fourth fifth sixth seventh eighth whateverth chance by the AFL! Some good ol' blokes told me!

I’m one of those who believes in chances but the ship has sailed with this one.

 

[Section226]

Random thought when listening to the 5pm news because there was a story about.....

Luke Parker

26

Luke Parker

Age

31

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

11.6

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.8

5star

D

22.1

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

9.9

5star

M

3.9

4star

T

5.0

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

8.0

5star

CL

5.2

5star

.

Can't get a game in the 1s for the Swans. Will most likely be suspended for the block during the VFL game on the weekend.

Contract expires next year.

Turns 32 in October.

Has what we need.

Is it worth chasing him for next year and maybe an incentive deal for 2026?

Again, just putting it out there.

 

[Colonial]

 

[MelbourneGWS]

Kingsley and most of the non Victorian coaches are not in favour of the mooted future changes to mid year trades, unless clubs make the decision to trade.

“My opinion would be that it’s probably not something that will favour the northern states particularly, but also the West Australian and South Australian clubs – I think you’d see most of the movement happen within Victoria.”

Should the AFL decide to take trading matters out of the hands of players, the second-year Giants coach was more warming to the concept.

‘Don’t think it works’: Coach fears mid-year trades would favour Vic — unless there’s US-style switch

‘Don’t think it works’: Coach fears mid-year trades would favour Vic — unless there’s US-style switch

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Giant YoYo]

Trade changes on the cards, Crow on radar, Tiger re-signs

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

GIANTS STILL WATCHING CROWS TALL​

KUWARNA is yet to begin contract talks with Elliott Himmelberg, as clubs continue to monitor the versatile tall as an unrestricted free agent option.

Greater Western Sydney is one of the clubs to have retained an interest in Himmelberg, having made an unsuccessful attempt to lure the 45-gamer to the club last October when he was still under contract at West Lakes.

The Crows held him to the final season of his deal and refused to trade Himmelberg to the Giants, where his older brother Harry is a star player, keeping him as key-position depth having failed themselves to secure a move for Melbourne's Harrison Petty

35

Harrison Petty

Age

24

Ht

197cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

3.8

3star

M

4.3

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

120.7

2star

No current season stats available

D

9.8

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.4

4star

MG

127.6

3star

.

But the 198cm tall is free to move where he chooses at season's end, given his standing as an unrestricted free agent following eight seasons at Kuwarna.

The Giants remain keen on key-position depth at either end of the field, with veterans Nick Haynes and Lachie Keeffe coming towards the twilight of their careers, with Himmelberg again expected to be an option for Adam Kingsley

Adam Kingsley

Age

48

Ht

183cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.9

4star

K

11.5

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.3

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.4

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

's side.

Himmelberg, who turns 26 next month, has played the last four consecutive games for the Crows, kicking five goals playing as a ruck-forward behind Reilly O'Brien

43

Reilly O'brien

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

105kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.4

4star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

5star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

14.4

3star

K

5.9

2star

HB

8.5

4star

CL

1.6

4star

HO

23.8

5star

D

12.6

4star

K

4.8

2star

HB

7.8

5star

CL

1.0

3star

HO

24.8

5star

. – Riley Beveridge

Looks like we may consider placing Josh Fahey on the inactive list to open up a vacant position for the mid season draft.

MID-SEASON HUNT ON​

THIS weekend's results will shape the order of next week's mid-season rookie draft, with up to 26 selections now able to be used around the competition.

Clubs will advise the AFL this week of their intentions on how many spots they are likely to open due to long-term injuries and retirements, but have until next Tuesday to formalise the movements given there could still be injuries from round 11.

The draft order will be reverse ladder order depending on which clubs have selections, with only Geelong, Greater Western Sydney and Sydney without potential vacant spots. However, the Giants have Josh Fahey set to miss three-to-four months with a foot injury and will consider placing him on the inactive list to open a position.