List Mgmt. 2024 Draft/Trade/FA Thread

[The Dr]

Norf would actually be smart if they could somehow turn LDU into a gun KPD by trading him this off-season.


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[TheBoss]

With hot takes like that you should become a talking head on fox footy!

 

[Topkent]

With hot takes like that you should become a talking head on fox footy!

Anyone who says Browns stiff to be dropped doesn't deserve an opinion on anything

 

[Proper Gander]

Anyone who says Browns stiff to be dropped doesn't deserve an opinion on anything

I think Ben Brown is stiff to be dropped

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

North Melbourne ALL First Round Draft Picks Since 2016
2016 P12 – Jy Simpkin

12

Jy Simpkin

Age

26

Ht

183cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.0

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

8.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

20.6

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

9.6

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.5

4star

CL

5.5

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.2

2star

Mid/Fwd
2017 P4 – Luke Davies-Uniacke

9

Luke Davies-uniacke

Age

24

Ht

188cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

6.5

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.5

3star

T

2.2

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.0

2star

CL

2.0

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

Mid
2018 P8 – Tarryn Thomas

26

Tarryn Thomas

Age

24

Ht

190cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

5.7

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

3.3

5star

CL

0.9

3star

D

7.8

2star

K

4.0

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

1.3

1star

T

3.2

4star

CL

0.2

2star

D

12.8

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

0.4

3star

Mid
2020 P3 – Will Phillips Mid
2020 P13 – Tom Powell Mid
2021 P1 – Jason Horne-Francis* Mid/Fwd
2022 P3 – Harry Sheezle Mid/Fwd
2022 P4 – George Wardlaw Mid
2023 P2 – Colby McKercher Mid
2023 P4 – Zane Duursma Mid/Fwd

Position summary isn't mine, usually how Zero Hanger described them in their draft year.

Obviously not all the same type of midfielder, but that's insane! Aside from how you'd have to be lacking in other areas as a result of this tunnel vision, how do you develop them all? There's only so much you can get out of them being played as small forwards and half-backs. A few probably won't even get to show enough that you'd get much for them at the trade table in future. E.g. Will Phillips might even go for a second round pick at the end of this year, because he's only played a handful of good games and started this season in the twos. So, it's not like you just swap them out for gun KPPs...

 

[schmuttt]

North Melbourne ALL First Round Draft Picks Since 2016
2016 P12 – Jy Simpkin Mid/Fwd
2017 P4 – Luke Davies-Uniacke Mid
2018 P8 – Tarryn Thomas Mid
2020 P3 – Will Phillips Mid
2020 P13 – Tom Powell Mid
2021 P1 – Jason Horne-Francis* Mid/Fwd
2022 P3 – Harry Sheezle Mid/Fwd
2022 P4 – George Wardlaw Mid
2023 P2 – Colby McKercher Mid
2023 P4 – Zane Duursma Mid/Fwd

Position summary isn't mine, usually how Zero Hanger described them in their draft year.

Obviously not all the same type of midfielder, but that's insane! Aside from how you'd have to be lacking in other areas as a result of this tunnel vision, how do you develop them all? There's only so much you can get out of them being played as small forwards and half-backs. A few probably won't even get to show enough that you'd get much for them at the trade table in future. E.g. Will Phillips might even go for a second round pick at the end of this year, because he's only played a handful of good games and started this season in the twos. So, it's not like you just swap them out for gun KPPs...

That is actually hilarious. If they drafted all KPFs it’d be dansters dream!

 

[Lord Nev]

2023 thread is closed, so just chucking this here for those who doubted we had a big crack at Reid.

At least two clubs, North Melbourne and Melbourne, put offers involving multiple top end draft picks to get their hands on the number one selection and Reid.

North’s offer was for pick three (which eventually became pick four and Zane Duursma) and two of the three picks North had in the late teens which pushed up into the early twenties after academy bids and became Taylor Goad, Will Dawson and Riley Hardeman.

Melbourne offered two first rounders – the picks that got them Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup – a future first round pick and a late second round pick.

West Coast viewed the Melbourne offer as stronger than North’s. They told the Kangaroos the starting point for any negotiation for number one and Reid had to be picks two and three (Colby McKercher and Duursma) with at least one more pick added in to make them seriously consider the deal.

 

[SugarHealey]

North Melbourne ALL First Round Draft Picks Since 2016
2016 P12 – Jy Simpkin Mid/Fwd
2017 P4 – Luke Davies-Uniacke Mid
2018 P8 – Tarryn Thomas Mid
2020 P3 – Will Phillips Mid
2020 P13 – Tom Powell Mid
2021 P1 – Jason Horne-Francis* Mid/Fwd
2022 P3 – Harry Sheezle Mid/Fwd
2022 P4 – George Wardlaw Mid
2023 P2 – Colby McKercher Mid
2023 P4 – Zane Duursma Mid/Fwd

Position summary isn't mine, usually how Zero Hanger described them in their draft year.

Obviously not all the same type of midfielder, but that's insane! Aside from how you'd have to be lacking in other areas as a result of this tunnel vision, how do you develop them all? There's only so much you can get out of them being played as small forwards and half-backs. A few probably won't even get to show enough that you'd get much for them at the trade table in future. E.g. Will Phillips might even go for a second round pick at the end of this year, because he's only played a handful of good games and started this season in the twos. So, it's not like you just swap them out for gun KPPs...

Easy; some make it, and others might be trade bait along the way. some would become forward-mids, some defender-mids, and other pure mids.

Those who are surplus, go back into the system with a 2nd chance.

As the engine room, it pays to draft too heavily in one main area, so you not relying too-heavily on luck playing a part. good or bad luck.

you should draft for the engine room ahead of the forward-line as a basic rebuild method. you want the mids to learn to work Rrsses off, defending and offensively, before the team learns to score easily.

A strong forward-line IMV, can spoil up-comin mids, allowing they're work ethic to under-develop...

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

Easy; some make it, and others might be trade bait along the way. some would become forward-mids, some defender-mids, and other pure mids.

Those who are surplus, go back into the system with a 2nd chance.

As the engine room, it pays to draft too heavily in one main area, so you not relying too-heavily on luck playing a part. good or bad luck.

you should draft for the engine room ahead of the forward-line as a basic rebuild method. you want the mids to learn to work Rrsses off, defending and offensively, before the team learns to score easily.

A strong forward-line IMV, can spoil up-comin mids, allowing they're work ethic to under-develop...

Oh, I agree with needing redundancy, but surely 6 first round mids is sufficient? And, what forwards? What defenders? They're bloody lucky to have landed Nick Larkey for a pick 73 and Zurhaar for a rookie pick! At what point do you start to invest good picks in those areas? After 8 *in' years of mids?

No, maybe you're right, I'm sure they know what they're doing. We'll let results speak for themselves, eh?

 

[Topkent]

I think Ben Brown is stiff to be dropped

TK 1
Gand 0

 

[Proper Gander]

TK 1
Gand 0

I’m basing my opinion on a whole range of matters that you have likely never considered

 

[SugarHealey]

Oh, I agree with needing redundancy, but surely 6 first round mids is sufficient? And, what forwards? What defenders? They're bloody lucky to have landed Nick Larkey for a pick 73 and Zurhaar for a rookie pick! At what point do you start to invest good picks in those areas? After 8 *in' years of mids?

No, maybe you're right, I'm sure they know what they're doing. We'll let results speak for themselves, eh?

Lets see; what 6 mids you say, from over about 4 seasons, less Horne-Francis... lets say one of those shows the right-stuff each seasons draft... maybe 3 of the 6 you mentioned, less Horne-Francis.

The surplus mids might go back to defence/offence, or not be up to it; or simply traded out.? for picks.

 

[Topkent]

I’m basing my opinion on a whole range of matters that you have likely never considered

I'm 100% certain you've thought about random stuff I couldn't possibly think of

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

Lets see; what 6 mids you say, from over about 4 seasons, less Horne-Francis... lets say one of those shows the right-stuff each seasons draft... maybe 3 of the 6 you mentioned, less Horne-Francis.

The surplus mids might go back to defence/offence, or not be up to it; or simply traded out.? for picks.

Yep, happy to be proven wrong. I'm sure things will start turning around for them by 2021/22 or thereabouts.

 

[schmuttt]

2023 thread is closed, so just chucking this here for those who doubted we had a big crack at Reid.

At least two clubs, North Melbourne and Melbourne, put offers involving multiple top end draft picks to get their hands on the number one selection and Reid.

North’s offer was for pick three (which eventually became pick four and Zane Duursma) and two of the three picks North had in the late teens which pushed up into the early twenties after academy bids and became Taylor Goad, Will Dawson and Riley Hardeman.

Melbourne offered two first rounders – the picks that got them Caleb Windsor and Koltyn Tholstrup – a future first round pick and a late second round pick.

West Coast viewed the Melbourne offer as stronger than North’s. They told the Kangaroos the starting point for any negotiation for number one and Reid had to be picks two and three (Colby McKercher and Duursma) with at least one more pick added in to make them seriously consider the deal.

Who doubted it?

 

[Proper Gander]

I'm 100% certain you've thought about random stuff I couldn't possibly think of

Would you like to hear it?

 

[Lord Nev]

Who doubted it?

I dunno, but it’s for them.

 

[Topkent]

Would you like to hear it?

Why else do I come here

 

[Proper Gander]

Why else do I come here

Ok so here are the reasons why we should keep Brown:

• played in an under 17 chess team that were Tasmanian champions
• shaved head for charity
• wore vegan suit to Brownlow night
• has a really long run up to kick goals
• seems really nice

It’s easy to just cast off your older players, but unless the next draft has some chess-playing, bald, animal-loving, nice people with interesting goal-kicking routines then we would be remiss not to retain Benny for another 3-4 years

 

[Demon 16]

Ok so here are the reasons why we should keep Brown:

• played in an under 17 chess team that were Tasmanian champions
• shaved head for charity
• wore vegan suit to Brownlow night
• has a really long run up to kick goals
• seems really nice

It’s easy to just cast off your older players, but unless the next draft has some chess-playing, bald, animal-loving, nice people with interesting goal-kicking routines then we would be remiss not to retain Benny for another 3-4 years

Vegan suit?

Was it edible!?

 

[Proper Gander]

Vegan suit?

Was it edible!?

No clue. I was however intrigued.

I love that you find all this gear around being sold as a “vegan leather bag”. So basically what used to be called fake leather, but now at three times the price!

 

[Demon 16]

No clue. I was however intrigued.

I love that you find all this gear around being sold as a “vegan leather bag”. So basically what used to be called fake leather, but now at three times the price!

No animals were eaten in the making of this handbag.

 

[schmuttt]

Assuming we can pay Brayshaw outside the cap we should be throwing the house at McLuggage, Elite outside mid would fit beautifully.

 

[Topkent]

Assuming we can pay Brayshaw outside the cap we should be throwing the house at McLuggage, Elite outside mid would fit beautifully.

He ain't leaving Brisbane for Brayshaw money I wouldn't think. Can't have 3 miss on a million either I think we're pretty stuffed with the Oliver over pay

 

[Bluelegs]

I dunno, but it’s for them.