Banter Who will be better in 2024? Carlton or Collingwood? Part 2

[carlton_99]

Moore has also captained a Premiership team.

And that's great for him but it's irrelevant when comparing who the better player is. Being captain of a successful team doesn't make you a better player than anyone else

 

[Fadge]

Again, we aren't bringing up other players here. It was a direct response to collingwood posters talking about Cripps . Not Cameron, not Pendlebury . Take a deep breath and just admit that Cripps was BOG in that game then move on . Try not to leave any of your astericks in your response either I know it's very hard for you not to leave the astericks. Be humble

So you're continuing to double down on Cripps being 'the most dominant player against Collingwood in recent times' courtesy of a single BOG in a losing game, where he had the chance to lock up a win but got caught holding the ball in one of the last plays in that game?

As I said, I guess it's all relative...

Have you had a better look at Jeremy Cameron's record against Collingwood yet?

 

[Fadge]

And that's great for him but it's irrelevant when comparing who the better player is. Being captain of a successful team doesn't make you a better player than anyone else

No.

You'd consider All Australian guernseys as well, for example...

 

[manicpie]

No.

You'd consider All Australian guernseys as well, for example...

Carlton supporters have ultra long arms but their barrels are 12ft deep

 

[carlton_99]

No.

You'd consider All Australian guernseys as well, for example...

Darcy Byrne Jones has an AA - does that make him better than any other HB that hasn't won an AA?

 

[Arr0w]

Carlton supporters shut down Collingwood supporters for years with that very argument!
It’s just been turned around this century!

Great how you tow the same line, impressive

We just align success and unfortunately, Cripps hasn't had any

As yet

Moore has also captained a Premiership team.

Castagna must have been a great leader

Or perhaps Buckley was putrid due to not winning a flag

 

[CarmenSandiego]

Moore has also captained a Premiership team.

Pendles hasn't though.

So it's weird you guys hold him in the same esteem as Selwood & Cotchin.

 

[manicpie]

Darcy Byrne Jones has an AA - does that make him better than any other HB that hasn't won an AA?

Geez, sounds like they were pissed when they gave that one

 

[Arr0w]

Enjoying the deflections from Pie supporters

 

[carlton_99]

Geez, sounds like they were pissed when they gave that one

More than pissed me thinks - bizarre decision.

 

[Fadge]

Darcy Byrne Jones has an AA - does that make him better than any other HB that hasn't won an AA?

Depends whether he's captained a premiership team as well.

 

[manicpie]

I just realised that Carlton have lost to all 3 top 4 sides this year. Big game tomorrow night

 

[carlton_99]

Depends whether he's captained a premiership team as well.

Okay. So you're criteria is based on two metrics: one that has more to do with team success rather than individual performance and the other an "award" selected by the likes of Kane Cornes, Andrew Dillion, Cameron Ling etc.

Fair enough.

 

[carlton_99]

I just realised that Carlton have lost to all 3 top 4 sides this year. Big game tomorrow night

Not quite true is it

 

[manicpie]

Not quite true is it

Sydney, Collingwood and Geelong, looks right to me. We can't include essendon because everyone knows they won't be there at the end

 

[carlton_99]

Sydney, Collingwood and Geelong, looks right to me

You must have access to a different ladder then the one I am seeing.

 

[Fadge]

Let's get back to Cripps being 'the most dominant player against Collingwood in recent times'...

I'm actually not even sure I'd have him in my top 50.

Particularly given 'dominance' is most important in big games/finals.

 

[Worm4]

So you're continuing to double down on Cripps being 'the most dominant player against Collingwood in recent times' courtesy of a single BOG in a losing game, where he had the chance to lock up a win but got caught holding the ball in one of the last plays in that game?

As I said, I guess it's all relative...

Have you had a better look at Jeremy Cameron's record against Collingwood yet?

I actually don't care about other players when talking about you folk downplaying P cripps as a player

 

[manicpie]

Let's get back to Cripps being 'the most dominant player against Collingwood in recent times'...

I'm actually not even sure I'd have him in my top 50.

Particularly given 'dominance' is most important in big games/finals.

Isn't a baby crab called a Cripps

 

[Fadge]

Sydney, Collingwood and Geelong, looks right to me. We can't include essendon because everyone knows they won't be there at the end

Not only lost to them, but completely outplayed and outclassed by all three teams.

We all know the scorelines in the Geelong and Collingwood games flattered Carlton.

 

[Fadge]

I actually don't care about other players when talking about you folk downplaying P cripps as a player

Who's downplaying him?

Just correcting you.

It's not ALL his fault that Carlton haven't yet had the opportunity to play Collingwood in finals.

 

[manicpie]

Not only lost to them, but completely outplayed and outclassed by all three teams.

We all know the scorelines in the Geelong and Collingwood games flattered Carlton.

It's a concern. They're going to have to win tomorrow to get some credibility

 

[Worm4]

Let's get back to Cripps being 'the most dominant player against Collingwood in recent times'...

I'm actually not even sure I'd have him in my top 50.

Particularly given 'dominance' is most important in big games/finals.

Get off the beers, seriously

 

[Worm4]

It's a concern. They're going to have to win tomorrow to get some credibility

Huh ? Pies lost to the Saints

 

[carlton_99]

It's a concern. They're going to have to win tomorrow to get some credibility

So Carlton need to beat a top 8 team to "get credibility" despite getting to 2nd whilst not playing a team in the bottom 8 since Round 5.