What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[winty]

It's going to be interesting watching Dutton on the campaign trail trying to sell his nuclear policy to the public. It's not popular, it's a poor policy, it's not costed and Dutton has the personality of a wet paper bag.

I saw a couple of clips of him on X yesterday saying Albo needed to come clean with details about how renewables will be viable going forward. Of course none of the media assembled dared to say the hypocrite needed to do the same about his nuclear policy.

 

[peetoo]

I saw a couple of clips of him on X yesterday saying Albo needed to come clean with details about how renewables will be viable going forward. Of course none of the media assembled dared to say the hypocrite needed to do the same about his nuclear policy.

We can see viable renewables in action right now. It’s not theoretical

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

You're kidding yourself if you don't think the media will give Dutton a free ride come election time as they have up until now

 

[schneebly111]

Posted on the Jan 26 thread but thought it needed a posting here as a sign of how openly and proudly racist the Liberals are now becoming:

 

[carltonchelsea]

“We’re all sick of…….”
Good ol’ dog whistling from the shrieker with the reject 80’s do!

 

[winty]

The US have had their recrudescence when Trump was elected. Hopefully we don't have ours by voting the LNP back in later this year.

 

[peetoo]

You're kidding yourself if you don't think the media will give Dutton a free ride come election time as they have up until now

If it’s like the last election a coordinated timed to perfection free ride

He is still the most useless potential minister among a conga line of fails in the libs today

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

It's likely Trump will have a honeymoon period though as is common for most administrations ans Dutton will eye how the culture wars stuff is being received.

Timing will I think work well for him

Why?

Trump was least popular when he was active politically, that's when his personal approval dipped.

And despite the win, his platform is still broadly unpopular. Does a second term in this case receive a "honeymoon" period, I doubt it. Especially when he is pressing the executive decree button so aggressively. Tariff threats, mass deportations and televised border militarization may make for great TV for his base, but everyone else?

 

[geoffjennings79]

Why?

Trump was least popular when he was active politically, that's when his personal approval dipped.

And despite the win, his platform is still broadly unpopular. Does a second term in this case receive a "honeymoon" period, I doubt it. Especially when he is pressing the executive decree button so aggressively. Tariff threats, mass deportations and televised border militarization may make for great TV for his base, but everyone else?

Yep, slowly dawning on:
(1) Democrats: "oh, sh1t, we should have voted"
(2) (some) swing voters: "wtf have we done?"

Wait until GOPs who are not MAGA come to similar realisations. But by then, it will be too late. Their economy will be ****ed, their society (already on its way) will be truly ****ed, and Trump and oligarchical cabal will be raking it in at everyone else's expense. Not to mention the global impacts. And his broader popularity will be meaningless, for at least the next 4 years. Or until he carks it, which is a good chance to come first.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Why?

Trump was least popular when he was active politically, that's when his personal approval dipped.

And despite the win, his platform is still broadly unpopular. Does a second term in this case receive a "honeymoon" period, I doubt it. Especially when he is pressing the executive decree button so aggressively. Tariff threats, mass deportations and televised border militarization may make for great TV for his base, but everyone else?

If the comments on Sky News are any indication then the conservative types will be all falling over themselves seeing "decisive action" being taken

Actual disappointment and realisation that inflation and cost of living won't be dramatically improving is months away

 

[geoffjennings79]

If the comments on Sky News are any indication then the conservative types will be all falling over themselves seeing "decisive action" being taken

Actual disappointment and realisation that inflation and cost of living won't be dramatically improving is months away

But didn't he promise he'd fix everything immediately?!

Lots of executive orders helping his acolytes and punching down on minorities.

Not sure they stop the war in Ukraine or restart US manufacturing. Tbh, I don't think he'll ever achieve either of those.

Anyway, wrong thread, I should stick to posting about wannabe-Trump, currently the member for Dickson.

 

[Saint]

That's why it was all done last year... it's not about selling it now, it's just an answer for when he's asked about climate action.

- Climate action questions will be met with, "We've made our plan to deliver clean nuclear energy available to everyone" ignoring the fact that it's not clear and barely a plan.
- Energy policy questions will be met with, "It's up to the Australian people to decide which party they trust to deliver lower costs and less spending" leaning on the better-economic-managers trope.
- Further pressing will be met with, "Australians will decide on those matters in the election booth and they'll also decide on who they trust to [insert relevant attack point against Labor that suits the particular audience."


And that'll all work. And it'll mitigate lack of climate action as a reason to vote against LNP, without upsetting the climate change deniers. So like it or not... they've played their cards well here in terms of election strategy.

Labor can't go after them without either getting bogged down in details on energy pricing (and bogged down in details is a guaranteed path to a lost election)... enough of the electorate believe either nuclear is cheaper or at the very least that it's a grey area and not worth basing their vote on.


As things stand, LNP has taken control of the narrative very effectively, and it's sitting with the ALP to do something to take it back.

I think that's their plan. But I think most people who have climate change as an issue also don't want nuclear waste, so I don't think it will work as well as the LNP hope.

 

[Barrybran]

Interesting first 24 hours of Trump 2.0. Regardless of which side you support, I think we'll get a taste of what can be expected here, albeit Australian-ised.

 

[Gough]

I reckon Trump could turn into Albo's secret weapon. It's hard to imagine too many people watching his omnishambles and thinking that what we need in Australia is the $2 shop version of that in Dutton. That the Libs have stayed almost completely silent on Trump Mk2 suggests they may have seen the danger of this too.

 

[Rotayjay]

The Liberal Party has always been suspicious of universal health care, higher education and superannuation

The Liberal Party (and reactionaries generally) have always hated the idea of universality. It's all about 'individual effort' - disadvantage is conveniently sidestepped. If it was up to them, there would be no Medicare and even more kids would go to private schools. There would be no awards or minimum wages - kids at Maccas would be negotiating with a large corporation.

 

[schneebly111]

That the Libs have stayed almost completely silent on Trump Mk2 suggests they may have seen the danger of this too.

Top story on news.com.au today is Dutton’s interview on Sky ‘News’ last night where he’s declared “war on woke.”

No the Liberals are actually trumpeting Trump style politics at high volume.

 

[Gough]

Top story on news.com.au today is Dutton’s interview on Sky ‘News’ last night where he’s declared “war on woke.”

No the Liberals are actually trumpeting Trump style politics at high volume.

Preaching to the converted on Sky though.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Top story on news.com.au today is Dutton’s interview on Sky ‘News’ last night where he’s declared “war on woke.”

No the Liberals are actually trumpeting Trump style politics at high volume.

Sleepy Pete

 

[schneebly111]

Preaching to the converted on Sky though.

news.com.au is one of Australia’s top read news sites however. I noticed it is full of trashy tabloid gossip which probably attracts a certain crowd who aren’t too interested in politics, so they can slip in the occasional “anti woke” story to those who would never read Sky

 

[peetoo]

Preaching to the converted on Sky though.

Apart from sniping the teals, his whole approach seems to be reinforcing the base

 

[Rotayjay]

The (hopefully long-lasting) ceasefire in Gaza will probably take some wind out of Dutton's wE mUsT sUpPoRt IsRaEl line. I think these disgusting antisemitic attacks will die down. Hopefully that war won't be an issue come election time.

 

[winty]

Where have we heard this before?

 

[Not Important]

crikey hits the mark again.

Dutton's business lunch idea takes the piss out of the entire notion of worthwhile public policy

Peter Dutton's proposal to bring back the long, taxpayer-subsidised business lunch is his dumbest idea yet.

www.crikey.com.au

 

[Not Important]

In areas like this, the MSM in Victoria, when they misrepresent teal and Greens voters, are doing the Libs a dis-service, it only makes people more likely to vote against the status quo of the major parties and reinforce/realise that they've been lied to by the major parties and the media for years.

Victoria will definitely see a swing away from Albanese, but I think it will be away from Dutton as well. With independents the biggest winners.

i know monique is concerned about the change to boundaries making it more "blue" cos she's not as well known in the new areas. i'm not as confident as you about peeps not swallowing the misinformation that's out there already and the election is yet to be called.

 

[NSWCROW]

Posted on the Jan 26 thread but thought it needed a posting here as a sign of how openly and proudly racist the Liberals are now becoming:

taller abbott

said it all along