List Mgmt. Trade & Free Agency talk Pt 5

[Bojangles17]

From an outsiders point of view I can see this draft setting you up for a long time to come in cluding next years draft.
I could see you trading pick 38 for St Kilda's future second as they need point for Marcus Windhager who is likely to get a bid in the mid 20's.
Trading 28 and Pick 40 for 23 and a future 3rd rounder at the Bulldogs would also work out for both teams.
Then trade 26 and 15 for 11 and a future second rounder from Essendon with your third going back. That would leave you with 3 second rounders in 2022 which could easily be turned into higher picks with teams who require points for academy or father son selections. That would guarantee at least two first round selections in 2022 as well while you head to this years draft with 7, 11 and 23 as your main selections.
You could trade 23 for Ladhams if there was interest to get him to Richmond.

We d be last club interested in ladhams , we just told CCJ and chol they wouldnt be playing r1 , you think ladhams would . I don’t think so

 

[sherrif]

We d be last club interested in ladhams , we just told CCJ and chol they wouldnt be playing r1 , you think ladhams would . I don’t think so

Ok. There were rumours you were keen on him and that's why you traded CCJ and didn't match the offer for Chol. But the rest of what I said in regard to trading? I think you could set yourself up for the next two drafts very easily.

 

[Bojangles17]

Ok. There were rumours you were keen on him and that's why you traded CCJ and didn't match the offer for Chol. But the rest of what I said in regard to trading? I think you could set yourself up for the next two drafts very easily.

That’s the plan

 

[Karp3_dm]

They’ve performed better at the level than hill has, put up his best game against best of aarts or George , . Hills done fa , I’d much rather Ess Squander tpp on him, he reminds of Leroy Jetta

Fair enough bro

 

[docko911]

Castagna didn’t have the best year due to issues with our team overall but he offers something we need that many other players his size don’t give. Yes, his skills aren’t great but his accuracy in front of goal has got better… and if he did have the skill of other players he’d probably be one of the top small forwards in the AFL. Anyways, he contests well with defenders bigger than him, is very fast and offers a great level of pressure in the forward line.

Aarts can be easily replaced by better players.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

From an outsiders point of view I can see this draft setting you up for a long time to come in cluding next years draft.
I could see you trading pick 38 for St Kilda's future second as they need point for Marcus Windhager who is likely to get a bid in the mid 20's.
Trading 28 and Pick 40 for 23 and a future 3rd rounder at the Bulldogs would also work out for both teams.
Then trade 26 and 15 for 11 and a future second rounder from Essendon with your third going back. That would leave you with 3 second rounders in 2022 which could easily be turned into higher picks with teams who require points for academy or father son selections. That would guarantee at least two first round selections in 2022 as well while you head to this years draft with 7, 11 and 23 as your main selections.
You could trade 23 for Ladhams if there was interest to get him to Richmond.

I agree with your 1st point in trading #38 for St Kilda's 2022 2nd rounder
Trading #28 + #40 for a 3 spot upgrade and Doggies 3rd i dont like and rather trade that on draft night for another team thats desperate or we use that
#26 + #15 for #11 NO THANKS

7 - Erasmus / Ward
15 - Amiss/JVR / NWM / Goater or another slider like Rachale
26 - Knevitt or any of the above that slides
28 - Bazzo preffered or any slider
40- which should be 37 on the night Motlop /Benning I think it would be nice to take a freo KPF that they are hoping to take as a catB

 

[richoatthedisco]

You’re kidding , I have several themes on my play list , and that was top 3 with shirls neighbourhood and Casey Jones

What about Minder and The Greatest American Hero?

 

[captain blood 17]

I dont think short is in best 22 he was horrible last season and should have been on the trade table maybe could have gotten us a first rounder

The 2020 Jack Dyer medallist? That guy? Seriously. Stupid ****ing post.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Honestly i think we have him covered with Stack.
But we could get involved in the trade that could land us something juicy if he chooses someone like Ess who have pick 11 then daylight.

Mmmmm 11 would be a good get

 

[McTiger]

Yep.
How would you feel being a hawk premiership player right now.
They marched Hodge/Lewis & Mitchell out the door quick smart.
Now 5yrs down the track they're doing exactly the samething.
Family club.Pffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttt.
'

Dysfunctional family club.

 

[YeOldTiger]

The player we should be targeting next year is Touk Miller he will be 26 years old and in his prime and a good time to come back home to Vic.

There's history there with Lynch. Miller was critical of him when Lynch took FA to join us. Well Lynch and May were co-captains and I guess Miller felt let down when they both left.

 

[Sir_Loin]

Well its a 5 spot upgrade 28-23 for

Well it was a five spot upgrade and a future third rounder for 28 and 40. Perhaps if the Bulldogs offered their future 2nd it would be a done deal. They need the points this year.

Well it was a five spot upgrade and a future third rounder for 28 and 40. Perhaps if the Bulldogs offered their future 2nd it would be a done deal. They need the points this year. The 15 and 26 for 11 also involved Essendon sending back a second rounder too. The two future second rounders then would allow Richmond to trade them to team needing points for a 1st in 2022.

was there a five spot upgrade? Not sure I got it the first time

 

[sregit]

Keep our powder dry until Wednesday and see what happens.
Pick 15 would be acceptable in my eyes on the proviso we still have 2 1st rnd picks.
(Moving Caddy on might help with the cap).

Giving pick 15 for Mitchell is desperation. Giving good picks for older players in an attempt to stay relevant has never worked. Early picks and drafting astutely is the way to go. If Hawthorn want to clear these players out it’s not us who should be furnishing them with the quality picks and means to rebuild. If they want Mitchell out then the price should be low. 28 max or less and pay some of his salary. You don’t take on older players and risk your future by overlooking the best young talent you can get. Stuff Hawthorn,we don’t want to help them. If the intention is to go after Mitchell then screw them big time.
Personally I don’t think Mitchell will keep us in the premiership window.

 

[djspank]

We bring 5 or 6 new kids in now, to learn from our Flag winning core of all time once in a generation Richmond greats in Cotch, Dusty, JR8, Sheds and Grimes. Those guys aren't gunna be around forever. What's a Mitchell type gonna learn from those guys? Nothing, it's not like he's gonna get any better.

 

[Noidnadroj]

Castagna didn’t have the best year due to issues with our team overall but he offers something we need that many other players his size don’t give. Yes, his skills aren’t great but his accuracy in front of goal has got better… and if he did have the skill of other players he’d probably be one of the top small forwards in the AFL. Anyways, he contests well with defenders bigger than him, is very fast and offers a great level of pressure in the forward line.

Aarts can be easily replaced by better players.

Castagna deserves respect as a triple Premiership player who has clearly played a very selfless role his entire career which is why Dimma loves him. But he is the most unskilled player in the AFL bar none. Not many AFL players almost miss their hand when handballing, kick sideways when going for goal or run around like a headless chook quite like he does. But he obviously does something valuable for the team we don’t see so no harm having him there on $250k/season.


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[YeOldTiger]

From an outsiders point of view I can see this draft setting you up for a long time to come in cluding next years draft.
I could see you trading pick 38 for St Kilda's future second as they need point for Marcus Windhager who is likely to get a bid in the mid 20's.
Trading 28 and Pick 40 for 23 and a future 3rd rounder at the Bulldogs would also work out for both teams.
Then trade 26 and 15 for 11 and a future second rounder from Essendon with your third going back. That would leave you with 3 second rounders in 2022 which could easily be turned into higher picks with teams who require points for academy or father son selections. That would guarantee at least two first round selections in 2022 as well while you head to this years draft with 7, 11 and 23 as your main selections.
You could trade 23 for Ladhams if there was interest to get him to Richmond.

Good post. You were going well until you mentioned Ladhams. He wants senior football and he'd be behind at least two rucks at Richmond. It's why CCJ and Chol (mostly) left for more opportunities. I think Freo have done well to have 4 picks in the top 25. Lots of WA kids to choose from although I note Bell said that the Vic kids were right in the mix. Will Freo take Erasmus or Rachele first will be the interesting one imo.

 

[YeOldTiger]

Good. Need to split pick 11. We would be right in the frame.

 

[TheGhostOfMaurice]

I dont think short is in best 22 he was horrible last season and should have been on the trade table maybe could have gotten us a first rounder

You’re having a laugh yeah?


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[YeOldTiger]

Chol and CCJ out obviously hurts a bit of height wise.

Jayden Post would fill I need I reckon.

Mac (Andrew) Bean !

 

[sherrif]

Good post. You were going well until you mentioned Ladhams. He wants senior football and he'd be behind at least two rucks at Richmond. It's why CCJ and Chol (mostly) left for more opportunities. I think Freo have done well to have 4 picks in the top 25. Lots of WA kids to choose from although I note Bell said that the Vic kids were right in the mix. Will Freo take Erasmus or Rachele first will be the interesting one imo.

I think we could end up with both Erasmus and Rachele with 8 and 10. Then use 19 on a key position forward like Jacob Van Royen. Our forward line is our weakest area of the ground. Erasmus was killing it before his year finished early as he was kicking goals and also winning contested footy. Drafting 3 forwards makes sense while probably also getting some midfield speed out wide in Clark with pick 22.

 

[sherrif]

was there a five spot upgrade? Not sure I got it the first time

Well it was a five spot upgrade and a future third rounder for 28 and 40. Perhaps if the Bulldogs offered their future 2nd it would be a done deal. They need the points this year. The 15 and 26 for 11 also involved Essendon sending back a second rounder too. The two future second rounders then would allow Richmond to trade them to team needing points for a 1st in 2022.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

Giving pick 15 for Mitchell is desperation. Giving good picks for older players in an attempt to stay relevant has never worked. Early picks and drafting astutely is the way to go. If Hawthorn want to clear these players out it’s not us who should be furnishing them with the quality picks and means to rebuild. If they want Mitchell out then the price should be low. 28 max or less and pay some of his salary. You don’t take on older players and risk your future by overlooking the best young talent you can get. Stuff Hawthorn,we don’t want to help them. If the intention is to go after Mitchell then screw them big time.
Personally I don’t think Mitchell will keep us in the premiership window.

Im coming around to Mitchell at Richmond but with condition
* If the Hawks want #15 for mitchell
* They must take Caddy for their 2022 3rd rounder
* They must pay $250k x remainder of his contract

Mitchell + F3 + $250k x 2 years = Pick #15

 

[YeOldTiger]

Im coming around to Mitchell at Richmond but with condition
* If the Hawks want #15 for mitchell
* They must take Caddy for their 2022 3rd rounder
* They must pay $250k x remainder of his contract

Mitchell + F3 + $250k x 2 years = Pick #15

I think you'd have to involve a third team. No way SMitchell is getting rid of their over 26ers and bringing in Josh Caddy.

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I think we could end up with both Erasmus and Rachele with 8 and 10. Then use 19 on a key position forward like Jacob Van Royen. Our forward line is our weakest area of the ground. Erasmus was killing it before his year finished early as he was kicking goals and also winning contested footy. Drafting 3 forwards makes sense while probably also getting some midfield speed out wide in Clark with pick 22.

Dont think Freo will be looking at Erasmus with #6 and probably not pick #8 either
Cerra & Lobb leaving will expose your weaknesses and your coach had already mentioned he wants outside run prior to these players wanting to leave. Specially with Brodie coming i dont think Mid/Fwd like Erasmus fits a need (leave him to Richmond at pick #7) and we can take JVR at #15

I think Amiss will be the KPF Freo will take at #8 and will be looking for outside Run with the #6 selection unless Callaghan slips through

 

[Rioli2Rioli]

I think you'd have to involve a third team. No way SMitchell is getting rid of their over 26ers and bringing in Josh Caddy.

Then he holds onto Mitchell. We cant afford his salary unless Caddy is off the books

If all thats being said is true it sounds to me like Sam is wanting to stamp his mark and getting rid of the Clarko 'Boys'