Sydney 19 on the ground

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Jolly was the 19th man. He was involved in the score. This is really not that complex.

I mean, geez, I'm a Hawks fan; you'd expect me to be laughing at North and bagging them out!
 
get over it? It was revealed 15 minutes ago!!

I don't see how anyone can argue that a 19th man getting a possession from a kick out did not have an influence.

Who's to say that it would have been any different with 18 men? No one can prove that. The Roos should have noticed this on the weekend, when it would have been an issue.
 
Any chance you can prove that?

The interchange was meant to be Jolly off, was recorded before he actually came off. During the period he was meant to be off the ground he received a hand ball with suprisingly no opponent around him and he kicked it to Goodes who scored a point to level the score so he did affect the outcome of the game.

It doesn't matter who came on, it is who was meant to come off that is critical. Club only knew there was an extra man when Jolly came off and nobody replaced him, by then it was too late to call a head count. You could deliberately use the flawed rule to use an extra man for a brief period.
 
He did know, but apparently he's not allowed to mention it until the game is over.

If true, I find it pretty amazing he wouldn't slip a quite word to one of the North players about to head back onto the field so that Simpson could be alerted to it. Especially when it was so close.

North supporters have every reason to be angry in my opinion!
 
the rules in the freo saints game was the game is over when the umpire signals it over..

the afl overuled that when no-one thought they would..

so they should follow suit with this one..
 

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Wrong. Jolly was already on the ground. White, who came onto the field, had no possessions.

Exactly they only took Jolly off because he was closest to the bench. It looks bad but appears to have been just a mistake which Sydney tried to rectify as soon as they realised. Unfortunately for North the ball came that way before Sydney could get a player off the ground. It was only 20-30 secs. Had the score not been as close it would have been a non-issue.
 
Wouldn't the Swans have done better to send the extra player down to the goal umpire to point out that the ball was touched just before it would have cleared the fence, well past the point when it cleared the goal posts?

And the North's interchange staff are told that they can only lodge a protest when that protest is too late to be relevant? That's the shinboner spirit for you.
 
If true, I find it pretty amazing he wouldn't slip a quite word to one of the North players about to head back onto the field so that Simpson could be alerted to it. Especially when it was so close.

Then according to the rules, we would be the ones cheating, not Sydney.

He did the right thing.

North supporters have every reason to be angry in my opinion!

The club had better scream blue bloody murder over this, that's for sure!

We should be sitting in 5th position, not 6th.
 
Requiring the captain to call for a head count seems like a pretty archaic way of doing it these days. So much going on, how is the captain meant to know how many players there are on the ground. And, by the time you call for it, the 19th player might be off the field.

Anyone got any idea how long there were 19 players on the field for?

Oh and P.S. That's Deliberate, you don't have a North membership, you have a North vendetta. So why don't you rip that up?
 
And the North's interchange staff are told that they can only lodge a protest when that protest is too late to be relevant? That's the shinboner spirit for you.

It's an AFL rule that applies to all clubs.:rolleyes:

Actually being a Sydney supporter I could see how you would think the rules don't apply.
 
Who's to say that it would have been any different with 18 men? No one can prove that. The Roos should have noticed this on the weekend, when it would have been an issue.

No one - but a player on the ground impacted the last score and he was supposed t be off the ground. That is the fact we know - that is what we need to act on.

How can you justify having 19 on the field - especially when it is a crucial kick out. It is hard enough to get an advantage from those zones with 18 vs 18.

North should get the full points.

It is clear cut.
 
The interchange was meant to be Jolly off, was recorded before he actually came off. During the period he was meant to be off the ground he received a hand ball with suprisingly no opponent around him and he kicked it to Goodes who scored a point to level the score so he did affect the outcome of the game.

It doesn't matter who came on, it is who was meant to come off that is critical. Club only knew there was an extra man when Jolly came off and nobody replaced him, by then it was too late to call a head count. You could deliberately use the flawed rule to use an extra man for a brief period.

Still not possible to prove that Sydney wouldn't have scored a behind in another scenario with 18 players. Yes it's bad luck, but there's no way you can say North would have definitely won the match.

Also, anyone who says Sydney cheated are idiots. No club would have 19 men on the field on purpose.
 
If anything comes out of this, it should be a change to this arcane runle saying that captain has to call for a head-count at the time. This should just not be able to happen.
 

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