Review Season in review 2022

[Mighty Lions]

Joe wasn't the problem in the prelim, there were at least 19 other players that didn't turn up to play that night. His inclusion wasn't the 12 goal difference between us and the cats.

Maybe a little more respectful way to put it would be the Cats were too good all over the park ....just like they were on Saturday.

 

[John_Proctor]

At Round 6 people were looking back on Joe's 30ish games for Brisbane and suggesting he was in the top few forwards in the game. He is an attacking gun to the extent you can look past his other flaws to a certain extent (see below) within the team. The Elimination Final is a good example.

But he does need to work harder when there isn't something in it for him personally. He had 12 tackles this SEASON. 11 of 19 games he didn't have a tackle. only 12 1%'s all season as well. McStay 40 tackles and 40 1%'s. (I think 1%'s are knock on, shepards, smothers, spoils). Perhaps these stats relate to his shoulders? but at least once a game you should be in a position to tackle a player and to knock the ball on (maybe instead of trying for an impossible mark?).



Interesting point above re: McCarthy v Lohmann. In my family we talk a lot about how the club has too many similar flankers in the team... lots of 10-14 posession, 2-3 tackle, 1-2 goal forwards... McCarthy is too good to not be 'first 22' in AFL but he is probably behind Cameron, Raynor, Bailey, in our forward line and throw in Zorko too. Raynor/Bailey/McCarthy all can be similar 35-40 goal forwards with up and down defensive pressure. Would we be better having 1 less of those in the team and 1 more high pressure 'defensive forward' or an extra midfielder all season to rotate through their. We have been the highest scoring team the last few years and it hasn't got us to a grand final.

Separately we also talk about too many defensive flankers... Rich, Coleman, Starcevich, Answerth, Ah Chee (and Wilmot in the finals who at least is quick). Not much pace in that group, and not many possessions. What other team is playing that many of that type of player?

 

[Grasshopper17]

So you are something more than a "supporter" which we mere numpty's on bigfooty arent? - that's how your post reads.

Nonetheless, alot of what was shown in the post game contradicts a bit of what you said but I take on board they were all hurting, although given the lack of effort, I doubt they'd of been hurting like Pies players who literally gave it everything they had and never once gave up -not sure you can honestly say that about us and if you do, then we were watching a different game given the insipid effort last friday.

For what it's worth, and it looks like this flies in the face of general perception, but I thought our performance against Geelong in the Prelim was pretty wholehearted. I thought we kept on putting in from the first siren to the last, we were simply beaten by a much better organised team. In the end the margin simply portrayed the fact that Geelong's system was superior to ours, and they kept exposing that over and over again. Perhaps that one extra tall made 12 goals of difference, like it may have in that game against Richmond in July.

I think the Grand Final result also speaks to this. I wasn't at the Grand Final so it's harder to comment on the effort of Swans players throughout the day, but all the stats from the Prelim look far more equitable than those of the Grand Final.

I'd add that this is not rose coloured glasses - I call it as I see it, and as an example, I thought our Round 23 effort against Melbourne was disgraceful. Blokes hearing footsteps and being unprepared to put their head over the ball. It was as bad as I had seen from our group for at least 4 years, probably longer. The Prelim Final, I didn't see any of that. Just completely outcoached (both at selection and in game) and outclassed.

Interesting point above re: McCarthy v Lohmann. In my family we talk a lot about how the club has too many similar flankers in the team... lots of 10-14 posession, 2-3 tackle, 1-2 goal forwards... McCarthy is too good to not be 'first 22' in AFL but he is probably behind Cameron, Raynor, Bailey, in our forward line and throw in Zorko too. Raynor/Bailey/McCarthy all can be similar 35-40 goal forwards with up and down defensive pressure. Would we be better having 1 less of those in the team and 1 more high pressure 'defensive forward' or an extra midfielder all season to rotate through their. We have been the highest scoring team the last few years and it hasn't got us to a grand final.

Separately we also talk about too many defensive flankers... Rich, Coleman, Starcevich, Answerth, Ah Chee (and Wilmot in the finals who at least is quick). Not much pace in that group, and not many possessions. What other team is playing that many of that type of player?

This is really interesting, and something Chris Scott touched on both after the Prelim and the Grand Final. As far as he's concerned, he never picks his best 22 players. That's why Parfitt was only the sub, even after Holmes withdrew. Ratugolea and Menegola couldn't get a game. It's because he thought they already had enough of that type of player.

We may have got carried away with picking our best 22 and compromising the balance of our team in the ways you mentioned. And possibly also playing all our tall forwards in the one lineup.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

We may have got carried away with picking our best 22 and compromising the balance of our team in the ways you mentioned. And possibly also playing all our tall forwards in the one lineup.

I'd disagree with that line of thinking. If anything I think our coaching staff along the same lines. Hence trying to play Harry Sharp when he wasn't ready (and to a lesser extent Tunstill) because they wanted an Ed Langdon type on the wing. I think they had a pre-conceived notion about what our best structure looked like but we don't have the depth that Geelong do. And let's be honest, I can barely think of a team that does.

But I also feel we're a little too stacked with attacking players forward of the ball. For balance sake I'd prefer one of our smaller forwards to be a more defensively-minded player. I'd also think we look better with just the two talls, but until Hipwood or Daniher look like they can pinch-hit in the ruck in any meaningful way, that's unlikely to change.

 

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[Mighty Lions]

I'd disagree with that line of thinking. If anything I think our coaching staff along the same lines. Hence trying to play Harry Sharp when he wasn't ready (and to a lesser extent Tunstill) because they wanted an Ed Langdon type on the wing. I think they had a pre-conceived notion about what our best structure looked like but we don't have the depth that Geelong do. And let's be honest, I can barely think of a team that do.

But I also feel we're a little too stacked with attacking players forward of the ball. For balance sake I'd prefer one of our smaller forwards to be a more defensively-minded player. I'd also think we look better with just the two talls, but until Hipwood or Daniher look like they can pinch-hit in the ruck in any meaningful way, that's unlikely to change.

McStay has been a good help in the ruck when Big O needed a rest and for me he leaves us with a hole that needs to be filled. There are teams that dont call on a Key Forward to do this but there are more teams that do. Not sure what the coach's thoughts are moving into 2023 but will be interesting how they plan to manage it.

 

[Grasshopper17]

But I also feel we're a little too stacked with attacking players forward of the ball. For balance sake I'd prefer one of our smaller forwards to be a more defensively-minded player. I'd also think we look better with just the two talls, but until Hipwood or Daniher look like they can pinch-hit in the ruck in any meaningful way, that's unlikely to change.

I'd be keen to understand why we looked better with 3 key forwards in the middle of last season, but looked better with only 2 this year.

 

[Sanchez365]

I'd be keen to understand why we looked better with 3 key forwards in the middle of last season, but looked better with only 2 this year.

I would say the secret lies in having a much more competitive midfield in that period last year, so we were able to capitalize with faster ball movement into our talls.

We mostly broke even in the midfield battle this year, meaning out tall forwards were required to contest up on the wings more, which also meant other teams had better field position to switch against us and our lack of speed in the front half (from 3 talls) meant we got opened up more.

 

[Dalions]

Hopefully Dev can cement a spot in the 22 next year.

 

[Dalions]

 

[Dalions]

 

[Dalions]

Was a pretty solid comeback year from Cam, can only get better from here.
Love the goal against Gold Coast.

 

[Dalions]

 

[Saucery]

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[Mighty Lions]

Under rated so much.

 

[Lace Out]

Under rated so much.

Boy from Montrose.Fair chance he has another level in him.