Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This (Stepping down end of 2025)

[Mr Gor]

Can someone tell me who we think was responsible for moving Rozee to half back was?

To my memory I can't remember Rozee being used back there, but it was a great call. Hopefully that was Carr.

 

[Steve Dore]

Yep out coached Mitchell a week after being out coached by the second least successful coach in the history of the game, Brad Scott lol

Hinkley is worried about his legacy because Brad Scott (258) could break Daddy Donuts' (292) record for the most V/AFL games coached without making a Grand Final.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Hinkley is worried about his legacy because Brad Scott (258) could break Daddy Donuts' (292) record for the most V/AFL games coached without making a Grand Final.

The single club bit will be safe for eternity.

 

[Port_Girl_92]

I get Gorringe has the intellectual capacity of a Hungry Jack’s Yumbo, but why do outsiders struggle to understand the situation and the perspective of long-suffering Port fans so much?

If Carlton loses to North in abysmal fashion this week, but then turn around and randomly play like the Harlem Globetrotters to their fullest potential and get a convincing win against the Cats, is that meant to vindicate Voss, and be a thumb in the eye for his critics, as they sit at a theoretical 2-5 with a trip to Adelaide Oval to take on the Crows to come?

Because it seems the pass mark is making finals which dud teams like Essendon, St Kidla, Carlton, Adelaide etc etc all fail to do more often than not.

So us continually making finals is like "well what are the Port fans upset about". They don't get our past, and the whole "if your not first then your last mentality".

 

[johnnysix]

Because it seems the pass mark is making finals which dud teams like Essendon, St Kidla, Carlton, Adelaide etc etc all fail to do more often than not.

So us continually making finals is like "well what are the Port fans upset about". They don't get our past, and the whole "if your not first then your last mentality".

100% It's also short sighted. We might be relatively successful in the context of any single season (even this would require defining success as making finals or winning a final, not actually making a Grand final or winning one), but a successful club is judged by how many premierships they have won and how recent they won them. It has to be this for very practical, existential reasons. People don't propose Geelong relocate to Tasmania or Canberra and they don't have their very existence questioned. They don't have a sizeable chunk of fans that haven't seen the club achieve the ultimate success in their lifetimes. There are people who have lived entire lives that didn't see St Kilda, Footscray / Western Bulldogs or Melbourne win a premiership. Like it not, premiership success puts asses in seats and grows footy clubs. "They're always in the mix" doesn't cut it along a long enough timeline.

 

[TeeKray]

100% It's also short sighted. We might be relatively successful in the context of any single season (even this would require defining success as making finals or winning a final, not actually making a Grand final or winning one), but a successful club is judged by how many premierships they have won and how recent they won them. It has to be this for very practical, existential reasons. People don't propose Geelong relocate to Tasmania or Canberra and they don't have their very existence questioned. They don't have a sizeable chunk of fans that haven't seen the club achieve the ultimate success in their lifetimes. There are people who have lived entire lives that didn't see St Kilda, Footscray / Western Bulldogs or Melbourne win a premiership. Like it not, premiership success puts asses in seats and grows footy clubs. "They're always in the mix" doesn't cut it along a long enough timeline.

Yep. Nobody cares how often you are in the mix, it's how often you salute that defines the greatness or otherwise of a football club. Richmond have been diabolical for most of our time in the AFL but are far more successful than us because when they did get their act together they capitalised on it. Likewise Melbourne who have made the finals 4 times since 2006 but have a premiership that will live in the memory whilst our wonderfully consistent 3rd-10th finishes will be completely forgotten if they haven't already been.

Re growing the fan base, we are lucky to exist in a two team market where there are no good alternatives because the other team sucks just as much.

 

[GremioPower]

817 posts for #14

 

[chachi11]

Can someone tell me who we think was responsible for moving Rozee to half back was?

To my memory I can't remember Rozee being used back there, but it was a great call. Hopefully that was Carr.

It was Carr.
Ken was too busy figuring out what the "B" sign meant.

 

[Tibbs]

Can someone tell me who we think was responsible for moving Rozee to half back was?

To my memory I can't remember Rozee being used back there, but it was a great call. Hopefully that was Carr.

He played in that position under Carr in the SANFL. Media calling it a "Kenny masterstroke," yet a few comments being made indicate Carr's fingerprints all over it.

 

[PortPortPort]

Rozee said Carr used to put him there at North Adelaide in their premiership year. It was Carr.

 

[Chewy316]

Can someone tell me who we think was responsible for moving Rozee to half back was?

To my memory I can't remember Rozee being used back there, but it was a great call. Hopefully that was Carr.

Rozee said on 5AA post game that Carr approached him early in the week about moving to half back for the game.

 

[simba_]

Ken didn't even know Rozee played for the Roosters

 

[Macca_1870]

Ken didn't even know Rozee played for the Roosters

Would Ken even know of the Roosters?

 

[JimmyBC]

Would Ken even know of the Roosters?

Red Roosters chips would be the extent of his knowledge.

 

[Macca_1870]

Red Roosters chips would be the extent of his knowledge.

Isn't he a Sotos man?

 

[malcheski]

Red Roosters chips would be the extent of his knowledge.

I think the day he found out Red Rooster do cheesy nuggets he had a little whoopsie in excitement.

 

[TeeKray]

Red Roosters chips would be the extent of his knowledge.

To be fair, Red Rooster chips are pretty damn good, I'd happily share a bucket of them with the Hink.

 

[JimmyBC]

I had those cheesey nuggets they went straight through me.

 

[MrMeaner]

Red Roosters chips would be the extent of his knowledge.

It's a same he can't eat them until next year because of sponsorship loyalty. If only there was a way to help him get them quicker.

 

[johnnysix]

Something I notice as a regular theme with Ken's press conferences...

A reporter asked if we would be able to play at the elite level we played in the first half last week every week, whether that was sustainable, to which Hinkley replied "we'd like to think so, we'd like to hope so but we know it's probably a bit of a stretch to say you can do that every week, every game and ever minute of every game. We seen what happened the other night we were dynamic for two and half quarters or a bit more and to Hawthorns credit they were able to get back... It's bloody hard at this level to that every week, we set out to do it... the opposition have a say in that..."

For me there's an easy response to that and its "it's our aim to play at that level, and bring that level of skill and intensity every time we walk out on the ground". Done. Let the reporters ask their questions and pull it apart, you can then respond to each challenge such as "What happened in the second half?" or "What happened against St Kilda?" etc. You can the respond to each specific circumstance as say what did wrong and what we learned. That's a winner's mentality.
There's no caveats there. We're not giving ourselves an out. Ken in the early days used to say "we get what we deserve". No excuses, not "it's a tough competition". You're not hanging your players out to dry because you're a part of that "we".

 

[Addy23]

Rozee said on 5AA post game that Carr approached him early in the week about moving to half back for the game.

If anybody wants to listen, defs an idea from Carr

 

[theouthouse]

Yep out coached Mitchell a week after being out coached by the second least successful coach in the history of the game, Brad Scott lol

Well he can't coach against himself now, can he!

 

[tribey]

If anybody wants to listen, defs an idea from Carr

In fairness, Hinkley’s signature move — swinging Jack Hombsch forward when 6-7 goals down — is no longer eligible

 

[Doctor Feel]

In fairness, Hinkley’s signature move — swinging Jack Hombsch forward when 6-7 goals down — is no longer eligible

Hoff back when concede two in a row

 

[JimmyBC]

In fairness, Hinkley’s signature move — swinging Jack Hombsch forward when 6-7 goals down — is no longer eligible

It's amazing a guy from the school of Blight suffers from magnet board inertia.