Oscar Allen Free Agency

[stallon]

The way in which each of those situations can be rationalised away is irrelevant.

I never said we drafted one mid in four years, I sad a bonafide mid - bonafide = genuine/real.

Simmo said "mids mids mids" - three years later, only one player from the players we drafted is a regular midfield rotation. Considering our midfield is 18th that's damning. It's certainly not the strength of our midfield that is keeping young players out.

3 years of drafting with the explicit intent of turning over the midfield, and the end result is a starting midfield of Baker, Graham, Kelly with Harley running through there.

That's just shocking.

Chesser is injured, and probably the only bust. 1 out of 5 first round picks isn't bad.
Hewett IS going through there.
Ginbey has moved to where he looks better.
Allan is in his first season.

Who else do you want in there lmfao.
Of the 4 who should be playing regular footy in an ideal world, we have 3 in the side playing footy.

"Shocking" "damning" **** off with that type of wording.
It's unfortunate and that's about it.
We drafted a bunch of mids, it hasn't worked out perfectly. That's not shocking that's just how it goes

 

[stallon]

Is it incompetence to win 10 games in 3 years and use picks 9 & 14, 1 and 16 in successive drafts?

9, 14 and 1 is fine.
We got Baker, allan and gross for pick 3.
Not an awful result

Not incompetence

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Chesser is injured, and probably the only bust. 1 out of 5 first round picks isn't bad.
Hewett IS going through there.
Ginbey has moved to where he looks better.
Allan is in his first season.

Who else do you want in there lmfao.
Of the 4 who should be playing regular footy in an ideal world, we have 3 in the side playing footy.

"Shocking" "damning" **** off with that type of wording.
It's unfortunate and that's about it.
We drafted a bunch of mids, it hasn't worked out perfectly. That's not shocking that's just how it goes

You write all of these words trying to rationalise away why we are in the position we are in. The proof is in the pudding:

Is Chesser playing AFL midfield - no
Is Hewett playing AFL midfield - no
Is Ginbey playing AFL midfield - no
Is Reid playing AFL midfield - yes
Is Allan playing AFL midfield - no

The assignment was "mids, mids mids" and that's the scorecard.

That's why it's now imperative that we trade our captain for a top pick, to draft multiple elite mids, because in the last 3 national drafts we have barely been able to find any, despite our notional picks in those drafts being 12,2,1,3.

That's why words like "shocking" and "damning" are being used.

 

[stallon]

You write all of these words trying to rationalise away why we are in the position we are in. The proof is in the pudding:

Is Chesser playing AFL midfield - no
Is Hewett playing AFL midfield - no

????

Is Ginbey playing AFL midfield - no
Is Reid playing AFL midfield - yes
Is Allan playing AFL midfield - no

The assignment was "mids, mids mids" and that's the scorecard.

That's why it's now imperative that we trade our captain for a top pick, to draft multiple elite mids, because in the last 3 national drafts we have barely been able to find any, despite our notional picks in those drafts being 12,2,1,3.

That's why words like "shocking" and "damning" are being used.

You are being overly negative.
Like its not even a little bit either

Allan is 3 rounds in, you want him playing full time mid in the afl?
Reid and Hewett are in the middle

Our issue is not the last 4 years of drafting.
Our issue is we don't have senior players who can play inside mid.

 

[KERRPOW]

Chesser is injured, and probably the only bust. 1 out of 5 first round picks isn't bad.
Hewett IS going through there.
Ginbey has moved to where he looks better.
Allan is in his first season.

Who else do you want in there lmfao.
Of the 4 who should be playing regular footy in an ideal world, we have 3 in the side playing footy.

"Shocking" "damning" **** off with that type of wording.
It's unfortunate and that's about it.
We drafted a bunch of mids, it hasn't worked out perfectly. That's not shocking that's just how it goes

its more the fact our midfield has been cooked for a very long time and all we have not recruited any up until the year gone by.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

????

He's averaging 22% attendance at CBA.

He's playing as a half forward who pushes up around the contest. That's a half forward, not a midfielder. Elijah is being kept out of the midfiel by checks notes Liam Baker and Liam Duggan

You are being overly negative.
Like its not even a little bit either

Allan is 3 rounds in, you want him playing full time mid in the afl?
Reid and Hewett are in the middle

Our issue is not the last 4 years of drafting.
Our issue is we don't have senior players who can play inside mid.

I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but it's the cold hard truth. Things may change. Hewett likely could move into the midfield, Harley likely will develop better fitness base, maybe Allan becomes a mid in 4 years.

But, the assignment was "mids, mids, mids" three years ago. And that's what we have to show for ourselves....

 

[stallon]

its more the fact our midfield has been cooked for a very long time and all we have not recruited any up until the year gone by.

We recruited Baker, Graham and we were asking about Devrob.
Yes they're not Agrade mids but they are depth, if we want better mids they dont come cheap

 

[stallon]

He's averaging 22% attendance at CBA.

He's playing as a half forward who pushes up around the contest. That's a half forward, not a midfielder. Elijah is being kept out of the midfiel by checks notes Liam Baker and Liam Duggan


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Hewett is being managed, hes playing midfield as much as he is able to.
Think what you want, you're wrong on this

I'm sorry if this isn't what you want to hear, but it's the cold hard truth. Things may change. Hewett likely could move into the midfield, Harley likely will develop better fitness base, maybe Allan becomes a mid in 4 years.

But, the assignment was "mids, mids, mids" three years ago. And that's what we have to show for ourselves....

It's not that its not what I want to hear, its just exaggerated melting because we didnt draft perfectly, which no clubs are capable of doing.

Our drafting has been good for the last few years.

Get a grip

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

We recruited Baker, Graham and we were asking about Devrob.
Yes they're not Agrade mids but they are depth, if we want better mids they dont come cheap

They don't come cheap, but we had the currency and traded it away for depth.

 

[ioppolo]

Even he's looking East...

He's definitely an adopted sand grouper now, he's bought the east with him.

People shit on Duggan and his skills (lack thereof), fair enough, but you could never question Duggo's integrity to the club.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Let's just get this out of the way early..

Is it Cody Curtain, Cody Curtin, or Curts?


Because I feel like I'm going to be seeing the former a lot on this board in the next 9M.

 

[Seadog]

Let's just get this out of the way early..

Is it Cody Curtain, Cody Curtin, or Curts?


Because I feel like I'm going to be seeing the former a lot on this board in the next 9M.

Cody Curts.

 

[Bender_]

Curts Jnr

 

[Keys]

Last I checked Oscar isn’t part of our midfield so let’s park the mid chat or move it somewhere else

Thanks

 

[Goroyals22]

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I'm not sure what Gary wants us to do? All we can do is play with some aggro and try and earn a little bit of respect and dignity on-field.

When we play Hawks in R7 it will be interesting.

 

[bzparkes]

Yep, let's just throw money at Hawks players to prove we're not minnows, despite those players unlikely to be any part of our list strategy.

That'll show 'em.

 

[Bender_]

I'm not sure what Gary wants us to do? All we can do is play with some aggro and try and earn a little bit of respect and dignity on-field.

When we play Hawks in R7 it will be interesting.

He loves a chance to take a shot at the Eagles, always has.

 

[lloydbraun]

Is the pressure winning getting to you?

Tired of contending for premiership?

Well we have the club for you!

 

[Keys]

I don’t necessarily agree with everything said in the above, but it’s hard to argue with most of what he says

 

[bzparkes]

He loves a chance to take a shot at the Eagles, always has.

I wonder why?...

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Yep, let's just throw money at Hawks players to prove we're not minnows, despite those players unlikely to be any part of our list strategy.

That'll show 'em.

called us the wealthiest club and told us to spend our money recruiting. How can we when there’s a salary cap???

 

[GrumpyGoron]

Are we honestly expecting anything of merit to be said by the club?

 

[bzparkes]

Are we honestly expecting anything of merit to be said by the club?

I mean, we could probably commission Nesbitt to pen a letter to the members, or something.

 

[Truly Lazuli]

Last I checked Oscar isn’t part of our midfield so let’s park the mid chat or move it somewhere else

Thanks

Genius! Oscar to the midfield.