Traded Jack Ginnivan [Traded with #39, F2 & F4 to Hawthorn for #33, F2 & F3]

[nahnah]

The ultimate troll player, I will never not love him. Joy to support and even more joy to see win a flag. Maybe the frees he deserves will start coming a bit more regularly now he doesn't wear black and white. If he fairly draws a high on an clumsy Maynard tackle I will stand and applaud

 

[nahnah]

Strange trade by Collingwood.

You have 4 fwd pockets that are decent there and you trade out the youngest of those pockets..

Harrison is rated highly internally

 

[H00t]

It isnt like bruest just showed up at the club with all the smarts he has today. A lot of that was learnt. And he can teach it to the youngsters.

He’s been doing it since very early on. He can try and teach it but I’m not even sure he could.

His brain would be picking up on so many tiny clues that he probably doesn’t even realise the full extent of it. He’s just got the feel for it.

 

[CakeEater]

Harrison is rated highly internally

So is Lachie Schultz now by you guys due to the Vic Tax.

 

[adammania9]

It will start with Eddie who used his platform at every oppotunity to go "its a disgrace Ginni not getting free kicks" It will then become "the bloke ducks his head, play on" as we all know Eddie is a hypocrit and the whole Collingwood supporter base will join in.

As I said though just watch Collingwood supporters change their tune though and we all know who will be leading it, yep that massive hypocrite Eddie.

All very good points but I can guarantee Eddie will be silent when the debate comes up next year about whether the kid deserves a free kick.

Wait till you get a look at Eddie’s u turn on this topic.

Are you alright mate? Eddie Derangement Syndrome is curable

 

[Caligo]

He’s been doing it since very early on. He can try and teach it but I’m not even sure he could.

His brain would be picking up on so many tiny clues that he probably doesn’t even realise the full extent of it. He’s just got the feel for it.

I am working off memory here but I think his tricks were pretty limited in those first few years. Didn't even play a game till like his 3rd season, and still wasn't half the player he is now in terms of nous.

 

[sydney_gws]

Harrison is rated highly internally

Also Hill , Schultz pretty young. Maybe Collingwood has another tall or medium forward lined up for 2025 or 2026.

 

[nahnah]

So is Lachie Schultz now by you guys due to the Vic Tax.

You got a pretty fair deal for him

 

[Gavin Excell]

From a distance (and who really knows) but Pies seemed happy enough to let him go when you compare the stance taken on Ollie Henry

 

[danster168]

The length of the contract offer by Hawthorn is very risky in my opinion. Are we confident that he is even afl standard in 2 years time. He needs to get to work, big time.

 

[H00t]

I am working off memory here but I think his tricks were pretty limited in those first few years. Didn't even play a game till like his 3rd season, and still wasn't half the player he is now in terms of nous.

Didn’t play until his third year but hit the ground running and was a very good player from the start.

 

[Caligo]

Didn’t play until his third year but hit the ground running and was a very good player from the start.

Yeah, I absolutely love bruest. Hoping he can teach Jack some things (like not dropping at the knees).

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

The length of the contract offer by Hawthorn is very risky in my opinion. Are we confident that he is even afl standard in 2 years time. He needs to get to work, big time.

Would have to have some behavioural clauses in it, surely?

 

[sanabavs]

What does Luke Breust have that Jack doesn't?

A defensive side to his game.

Deal makes sense for the Hawks, deal makes sense for the Pies, deal makes sense for Ginnivan. Based on draft points, it works out that the equivalent of what the Hawks paid is anywhere from 24 (using this year's ladder positions, 23 for 38 the rd 2 picks next year) to 38 (hawks just miss the 8, pies with a straight sets exit, 30 & 34 the rd 2 picks next year).

Seems fair, he'd be a fringe player for us who might force his way into the team, he'll be a best 22 player for the hawks with potential to improve. He is a forward-only with excellent goal-sense, limited athleticism and very limited maturity. The goal-sense will remain, he hopefully grows up. The best case for what he turns into as an instinctive goal-sneak with a limited defensive side is a less athletic Jeff Farmer.

 

[Ashman23]

I know other supporters point to Poppy when receiving head high freekicks and all the #freekickhawthorn BS..

Jack will not fair any better now that he's a Hawk.

Umps don't like us.

 

[RuFiO]

Hawks got ripped off.
Should've been able to get a 1st rounder as well.

 

[nut]

I still don’t get this this trade

 

[nut]

Funny if hawks finish above the pies

 

[Matrix10]

Strange trade by Collingwood.

You have 4 fwd pockets that are decent there and you trade out the youngest of those pockets..

Not a strange trade at all , just that Jack didn’t read Fly and Wrighty’s room very well. the kid needs to wise up , if he does , will be very good at the Hawks. Just not against your old mob hey Jack

 

[nut]

Not a strange trade at all , just that Jack didn’t read Fly and Wrighty’s room very well. the kid needs to wise up , if he does , will be very good at the Hawks. Just not against your old mob hey Jack

Yer he needs to learn from Degoey when he was the same age…

 

[PieLebo87]

Strange trade by Collingwood.

You have 4 fwd pockets that are decent there and you trade out the youngest of those pockets..

Well they can only technically play 2 of them if you look at the 18 positions on the field.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Bloke won a flag a couple of weeks ago and is contracted, and has basically been traded for nothing. Free agency isn’t lingering or anything.

Is he simply a massive tool? What other explanation is there?

 

[Foucault1989]

Bloke won a flag a couple of weeks ago and is contracted, and has basically been traded for nothing. Free agency isn’t lingering or anything.

Is he simply a massive tool? What other explanation is there?

I think he is a bit of a free spirited loose canon.

While he is young and immature, he'll be in the headlines

But I like the kid. He is a unique individual who is a gun little footballer. But we know how social media and the media work. He'll always have cameras on him

 

[sanabavs]

traded for nothing.

23, 33, 41 for 38, 39, 74 if this year's finishing spots repeat. Bit more than nothing.

 

[Caligo]

A defensive side to his game.

Deal makes sense for the Hawks, deal makes sense for the Pies, deal makes sense for Ginnivan.

A lot of young smalls struggle with the defensive side of the game. Hopefully we can teach it to him.