News GMHBA Stadium Stage 5 Redevelopment

[cats_09]

 

[bombersboy]

That photo really shows up the Hickey stand. Looks out of place. I remember when it was built and thought how good it looked. State Government is bankrupt so we will have to live with it for a long time. When it does come time for redevelopment it will need to cantilever over Moorabool Street. Would that be allowed or would local residents object? Could it lift the ground capacity by another 5000 or so?

 

[Tony Barber]

That photo really shows up the Hickey stand. Looks out of place. I remember when it was built and thought how good it looked. State Government is bankrupt so we will have to live with it for a long time. When it does come time for redevelopment it will need to cantilever over Moorabool Street. Would that be allowed or would local residents object? Could it lift the ground capacity by another 5000 or so?

It would be a massive waste of money. Won't happen.

 

[cats_09]

 

[iameviljez]

That photo really shows up the Hickey stand. Looks out of place. I remember when it was built and thought how good it looked. State Government is bankrupt so we will have to live with it for a long time. When it does come time for redevelopment it will need to cantilever over Moorabool Street. Would that be allowed or would local residents object? Could it lift the ground capacity by another 5000 or so?

IMO we need to fill out what we have before eyeing off the bulldozers again.

 

[bombersboy]

IMO we need to fill out what we have before eyeing off the bulldozers again.

I would agree with you but I'm not sure there is much scope for anything without the bulldozers. The ramps either end of the Hickey stand and how close the light tower is to the ground at the river end of the Hickey stand will severely limit any "filling in". In my initial post I did say that I thought redevelopment of the stand was a long way off.

 

[iameviljez]

I would agree with you but I'm not sure there is much scope for anything without the bulldozers. The ramps either end of the Hickey stand and how close the light tower is to the ground at the river end of the Hickey stand will severely limit any "filling in". In my initial post I did say that I thought redevelopment of the stand was a long way off.

Sorry, by "filling out" I mean getting a capacity crowd.

 

[magic_johnson!]

That photo really shows up the Hickey stand. Looks out of place. I remember when it was built and thought how good it looked. State Government is bankrupt so we will have to live with it for a long time. When it does come time for redevelopment it will need to cantilever over Moorabool Street. Would that be allowed or would local residents object? Could it lift the ground capacity by another 5000 or so?

I think there’s opportunity to make something of its uniqueness; celebrate somehow its differences from the rest of the ground and contrast it even more. As you say, in isolation it is a unique and nice stand, but in its new context sometimes looks a little out of place. It would be wasteful and currently unnecessary to be replaced, but there’s probably things that could be done in the next 5 or so years to improve it.

I’ve mentioned before that having the standing room on the bottom level rather than in the Selwood stand could have been fun. Making more of the premiership flags and having one for each of the premiership would be great. Something like a contrasting seat colour could work, but a bit wasteful. Perfect spot for a return of a ‘go cats’ pattern.

 

[kurt_kb]

Still struggling to understand the necessity of this. The existing one was already large, so are they making it larger? It'd be nice if they could make use of the existing screen real estate and actually present basic information like the current time or quarter number, or even the score in the BBL instead of filling a quarter of the screen with logos or ads.

 

[cats_09]

Still struggling to understand the necessity of this. The existing one was already large, so are they making it larger? It'd be nice if they could make use of the existing screen real estate and actually present basic information like the current time or quarter number, or even the score in the BBL instead of filling a quarter of the screen with logos or ads.

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The old one had reached the end of its life and was in desperate need of replacement - I took the photo below didn't the season & it gives an indication of how pixelated it was

That black square in the A isn't meant to be black, and over the past season there was increasing periods where the patch of black would extend to a decent portion of the screen before returning to normal some minutes later

I'm not sure the size of the new screen compared with the old, but it's a def requirement

Totally agree though about making better use of the real-estate on the screen

 

[kurt_kb]

The old one had reached the end of its life and was in desperate need of replacement - I took the photo below didn't the season & it gives an indication of how pixelated it was

That black square in the A isn't meant to be black, and over the past season there was increasing periods where the patch of black would extend to a decent portion of the screen before returning to normal some minutes later

I'm not sure the size of the new screen compared with the old, but it's a def requirement

Totally agree though about making better use of the real-estate on the screen

True actually. Reminded me that I took this one in April. At least it was better than this most of the time.

 

[pattymalone00]

Still struggling to understand the necessity of this. The existing one was already large, so are they making it larger? It'd be nice if they could make use of the existing screen real estate and actually present basic information like the current time or quarter number, or even the score in the BBL instead of filling a quarter of the screen with logos or ads.

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The old one had reached the end of its life and was in desperate need of replacement - I took the photo below didn't the season & it gives an indication of how pixelated it was

That black square in the A isn't meant to be black, and over the past season there was increasing periods where the patch of black would extend to a decent portion of the screen before returning to normal some minutes later

I'm not sure the size of the new screen compared with the old, but it's a def requirement

Totally agree though about making better use of the real-estate on the screen

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I’ve always laughed and it’s probably not that big of a deal but the Geelong scoreboards have to be the only scoreboard in the afl that didn’t display the quarter surely

 

[4quarter_cat]

Yeah - it is a bit of trend with technology - it gets more powerful, but also concentrated to smaller areas. Meanwhile the older tech gets uneconomical as users drop (3g was probably never economical in the more remote areas).
Same with tv reception. We used to get poor analogue over VHF, but at least there was something and we could watch the footy. Then VHF was dropped for digital over UHF, since then, nothing.

If someone here is a telecommunications engineer feel free to correct me on the first part of this post.

My understanding is that part of the reception problem comes down to the wavelength of the "radio" signals involved. Of the 3 that were still in use.
3G had the longest wavelength then 4G, and now 5G is even shorter.
As an aside VHF has a longer wavelength than UHF.

The problem with a shorter wave length is 2 fold:
- the shorter the wavelength it bends less. So it is far less able to deal with a physical barrier (I've heard that 5G is so bad with this that at short distances you almost need line of sight)

TLDR; One reason you might struggle for reception in a stadium setting is if the carrier don't have enough antenna's with line of sight to your seat at the ground. It's ridiculous. I use Belong (which is a Telstra off shoot, and the horror stories I am hearing makes me wonder what the situation is on other carriers, and whether it is worth changing from my extremely cheap grandfathered deal where I get unlimited everything for less that $20 a month.

 

[jim boy]

I use Belong (which is a Telstra off shoot, and the horror stories I am hearing makes me wonder what the situation is on other carriers, and whether it is worth changing from my extremely cheap grandfathered deal where I get unlimited everything for less that $20 a month.

MVNO's are a whole another thing to consider. Belong might be on the Telstra backbone, but that doesn't mean you get the same service, especially around edge cases - for example Telstra could be limiting the bands available to non-core customers on their transmission towers.

 

[iameviljez]

The loss of 3g did plenty of other damage. i.e I have an older BMW. BMW's entertainment system and also help system all used 3g. Lots of people now have entertainment systems that are effectively bricks.
Plenty of people paid subscriptions so that if something went wrong they could directly contact BMW to get roadside assistance etc.

Carmakers are shocking at making their vehicles backward-compatible; of course, they don't want to do it, because they want you to go buy the shiny new one instead.

Carmakers could absolutely retrofit kits for, say, airbags, in-car tech, blind spot monitors, heated seats, parking sensors etc to older vehicles if they wanted (the things affecting driver inputs like lane centring or adaptive cruise control are a slightly different story). But, naturally, it's in their best interests to get you to upgrade - especially luxury carmakers like BMW, whose new-car customers tend to turn over their vehicles fairly quickly.

 

[Phipppppa]

New scoreboard is up

 

[Ross]

Looks like it's a very wide scoreboard compared to the old one, should mean the live video will fill the screen from top to bottom and the scores/stats/adverts will be moved off to the side/s like the Perth stadium's scoreboard below. I think it might actually be the first ultra wide scoreboard at a footy venue in Victoria? The scoreboards at the MCG and Docklands were built before widescreen TVs existed or when they were only just starting to become common so their scoreboards are a lot taller and more square shaped and there's not really any room to make them wider.

 

[Pods]

Looks like it's a very wide scoreboard compared to the old one, should mean the live video will fill the screen from top to bottom and the scores/stats/adverts will be moved off to the side/s like the Perth stadium's scoreboard below. I think it might actually be the first ultra wide scoreboard at a footy venue in Victoria? The scoreboards at the MCG and Docklands were built before widescreen TVs existed or when they were only just starting to become common so their scoreboards are a lot taller and more square shaped and there's not really any room to make them wider.

I think the new ones at docklands are ‘wide screen’. They were installed in the last 2-3 years if memory serves

 

[kurt_kb]

Looks like it's a very wide scoreboard compared to the old one, should mean the live video will fill the screen from top to bottom and the scores/stats/adverts will be moved off to the side/s like the Perth stadium's scoreboard below. I think it might actually be the first ultra wide scoreboard at a footy venue in Victoria? The scoreboards at the MCG and Docklands were built before widescreen TVs existed or when they were only just starting to become common so their scoreboards are a lot taller and more square shaped and there's not really any room to make them wider.

The current MCG scoreboards were installed at the end of 2013, and the new Docklands scoreboards (which are 'ultrawide') only 3 years ago, both long after widescreen TV came into existence. I wouldn't describe the MCG's current or either's previous screens as square shaped either given they're basically 16x9, especially once you add a score strip at the bottom.

I'd expect a good third of the screen will be taken up by advertising too now the Morris Finance bezel is gone, something neither MCG or Docklands do in excess.

 

[Ross]

I haven't been to Docklands since 2021 so I totally missed the scoreboard upgrades there. I knew they upgraded the MCG scoreboards in 2013, they're not a 4:3 ratio but they're not 'ultra wide' either.

You're probably right though that a big chunk of this new scoreboard at Kardinia Park will be used for advertising though.

 

[catters05]

One day it will be completed, and will add another 5k in and will be a perfect oval and will shut up all the haters….. and finals will be played on it.


One day.

 

[goyoucatters]

One day it will be completed, and will add another 5k in and will be a perfect oval and will shut up all the haters….. and finals will be played on it.


One day.

It's already a perfect oval (for our football club).

And you will never ever silence the haters, no matter what you do.

#stayclassygeelong

 

[Jonts]

Sorry if the wrong thread
Looking at going to the Cats Freo game as the state that weekend

If buying GA family/dry tickets
Does that get you an unreserved seat? Or is that standing room?

 

[Schmuck]

Sorry if the wrong thread
Looking at going to the Cats Freo game as the state that weekend

If buying GA family/dry tickets
Does that get you an unreserved seat? Or is that standing room?

All unreserved seats in the Dry Bay, it’s a great viewing area in my opinion too.

 

[kurt_kb]

If buying GA family/dry tickets
Does that get you an unreserved seat? Or is that standing room?

All the light blue bays are unreserved seating, and purple is the unreserved dry bays.