Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[Strange Cat]

I don't think they could get rid of Oliver if they tried.

Pert copped a lot of flak for what I think history would remember as the right option at the time

Trac will go …Oliver’s contract will sink them either way I think he will stay

Gawn will be the interesting one as it really does appear he has checked out

Pickett is leaving to Freo

They are in a rebuild they just won’t admit it yet

 

[year of the cat]

I don't think they could get rid of Oliver if they tried.

Pert copped a lot of flak for what I think history would remember as the right option at the time

They can always get rid of him. It’s just what they are prepared to give up/accept. It would obviously fall way short of what they may wish.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

They can always get rid of him. It’s just what they are prepared to give up/accept. It would obviously fall way short of what they may wish.

I dunno man, this contract and player combination is so bad it's unprecedented

 

[year of the cat]

I dunno man, this contract and player combination is so bad it's unprecedented

I agree it’s pretty awful. Equally I can see him turning his form around at another club. That place is toxic.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I agree it’s pretty awful. Equally I can see him turning his form around at another club. That place is toxic.

He's coming from a long long way back. Seeing what he did off the ball last night (first time I've seen him play live in a couple of years) was shocking. He is only 27 I guess so on paper he can bring it back but I am not taking that bet at any stake.

 

[dont stop me meow]

Porque no los dos?

Any chance we could retire this little gem of a gif? Doritos level cringe imo but maybe it's just me haha

 

[Warhorse]

How? Dudes on point.

I think fishgutz is a good poster and adds value to this forum

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Any chance we could retire this little gem of a gif? Doritos level cringe imo but maybe it's just me haha

Yeah fair, that girl is like 25 now

 

[Pure_Ownage]

In a business sense it works like basically 99.9% of all the other trades and we hand no players over let alone elite small defenders and we just give them picks.

Unless he wants out geelong won’t be pushing him out. They will take the 3 1sts and whatever steak knives we offer.

And I think you can say with a lot of confidence if Reid continues this form 3x1sts is more than fair, probably overs

I think you are missing the point that it is going to be hard if not impossible to execute a Reid trade without players being involved. Now that's fine if you don't want him but if you do you have to be realistic about what it will cost.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

In the last 10 years we have literally found 3 from nowhere:

• Stewart as a mid round mature age draft pick from our VFL team
• Zuthrie as the work experience kid who got a rookie spot because we liked his brother
• Humphries as a super late mature aged draft pick who was on no other teams radar (and WC had given up on)

Other clubs have done similar (but not 3 in 10 years).

Elite kicking mid sized/small defenders are probably the only player type in the league where very good players are consistently produced out of thin air.

Not even arguing that they can be picked late in drafts, I am saying they aren’t easy to find at an elite level anywhere and we wouldn’t give one up and lay back and say “ oh well we will just grab another Lawson Humphries from the WAFL with pick 70 because we drafted Tom Stewart ten years ago from the VFL and Zach guthrie as a rookie, we will just pick another off the fruit tree”

I get your point, but I still think hump is being underrated with these sorts of comments. He is turning into a very important piece in our structure and an elite defender

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Trac will go …Oliver’s contract will sink them either way I think he will stay

Gawn will be the interesting one as it really does appear he has checked out

Pickett is leaving to Freo

They are in a rebuild they just won’t admit it yet

The issue is without the coach and list management getting sacked none of that will happen.
The coach is massive on pickett-unless freo offer more than they did for Bolton it won't happen this year.

Oliver is untradeable on the contract for the reasons I mentioned

The current management isn't trading petracca and the offers wouldn't be enough to be worth it.

I don't think Max wants to go and even if he did at his age there won't be a market for him-if he was a free agent possibly but contracted no.

It's more likely that all of them stay next year and the players are just unhappy.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I think you are missing the point that it is going to be hard if not impossible to execute a Reid trade without players being involved. Now that's fine if you don't want him but if you do you have to be realistic about what it will cost.

At his current trajectory which is pretty average this year, why would 3x1sts be impossible?

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I have come around to Worpel lately but you reckon we'd get away with Hawks not matching? I think it ends in a trade scenario

Look hawthorn have the cap space no doubt to match but they are also overloaded with inside mids and guys like ward and hustwaite dominate but can't get regular games in there. They might just be happy to let worpel go especially if they get Allen.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

At his current trajectory which is pretty average this year, why would 3x1sts be impossible?

Any club that trades for him will do it on the basis of what he will be not what his current form is-especially with how poor West coast has been for years.
And the price paid for him in a trade will reflect that. Frankly if you trade 3 r1s for Harley and they are all outside the top 10 that's cheap for what he will be.

 

[Johnny Cattery]

We were ordinary in 1H, but the fact we pegged back that 30 pt deficit before half time was good. It just seemed to me we had no answer for the dominance of Fogarty, Tex and Keys. But Scott proved he is a master coach. Whatever he said to the guys at half time worked and worked well. Our pressure in the final quarter was unrelenting.

Recruiting Bailey Smith reminds me of when Danger came in. Danger took the pressure off Selwood having to be "the man". Ditto, with Holmes, I reckon. And if the post game TV interview is any indication, Holmes and Smith appear to be close

Agree with most of this, and would add that the move of Danger forward has been transformative as much for him as for the team.

Was at the game and have watched it twice. I do disagree that we were ordinary in the first half. I'm also very sceptical of claims that any player hesitated, or was selfish (perhaps it could be said Mannagh took the wrong option with Jez, late), as has been claimed in the game day thread. On the basis of what I saw live, in Adelaide and also in Brisbane, I'm sick of typists accusing players of 'not going' on no evidence, and probably some weird fantasy that if they had been in there instead, they 'would of'. yeah right.

Adelaide were very, very slick; very committed, and held their width. Their ball movement was bloody hard to stop. If there was a difference it was that in the first half we just missed three shots at goal, while in the second half, it was the Crows who did the near miss thing.

We were close to the boundary, and watching up close, it was brutal in there. Watching it on tv the players look smaller, the game slower, more organised (I suspect an effect of the commentary). Live, it is, as Bartel once said, all bash and crash: the speed is breathtaking and the level of physical commitment extraordinary. Holmes was literally flinging himself at tackles in the fourth quarter, and guys like Stengle, Mannagh, Miers and Close were doing it all game. Adelaide was very, very good. We were better!

 

[Hinkley29]

A little sincerity wouldn't go astray.

My post was very sincere. I meant every word of it.

 

[bombersboy]

I would not swap Humphries for Reid. Sure Reids are hard to come by but uness Humphries insisted he wanted to go there is no way. He is not part of the equation.

Reids form has not exactly been stelar.

The other consideration with Harley is that he has had a couple of years in what I think looking from the outside appears to be a poor club culture/system.

 

[bombersboy]

He's not underrated humphries he's just saying that it's easy to find a decent half back or a winger in the state leagues. Davidson this year shows it (ditto bice), Durham previously and a heap of others (we have done it ourselves too) its hard to find elite mids in the state leagues (you can get meat and potatoes ones for sure but explosive ones are hard to find). So it's easier to replace that type which is where Lana Is correct.

I think Humphries is an elite half back. As well as being a rebounding defender with great foot schools he is actually also a very good defender.

 

[patience]

Any club that trades for him will do it on the basis of what he will be not what his current form is-especially with how poor West coast has been for years.
And the price paid for him in a trade will reflect that. Frankly if you trade 3 r1s for Harley and they are all outside the top 10 that's cheap for what he will be.

I still think what he will potentially be. Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see him flourish wherever he lands. I’m just not as confident he will be a good long term investment.

 

[Vdubs]

Trac will go …Oliver’s contract will sink them either way I think he will stay

Gawn will be the interesting one as it really does appear he has checked out

Pickett is leaving to Freo

They are in a rebuild they just won’t admit it yet

If they finish bottom, Bombers get their #1 draft pick.

 

[Vdubs]

Agree with most of this, and would add that the move of Danger forward has been transformative as much for him as for the team.

Was at the game and have watched it twice. I do disagree that we were ordinary in the first half. I'm also very sceptical of claims that any player hesitated, or was selfish (perhaps it could be said Mannagh took the wrong option with Jez, late), as has been claimed in the game day thread. On the basis of what I saw live, in Adelaide and also in Brisbane, I'm sick of typists accusing players of 'not going' on no evidence, and probably some weird fantasy that if they had been in there instead, they 'would of'. yeah right.

Adelaide were very, very slick; very committed, and held their width. Their ball movement was bloody hard to stop. If there was a difference it was that in the first half we just missed three shots at goal, while in the second half, it was the Crows who did the near miss thing.

We were close to the boundary, and watching up close, it was brutal in there. Watching it on tv the players look smaller, the game slower, more organised (I suspect an effect of the commentary). Live, it is, as Bartel once said, all bash and crash: the speed is breathtaking and the level of physical commitment extraordinary. Holmes was literally flinging himself at tackles in the fourth quarter, and guys like Stengle, Mannagh, Miers and Close were doing it all game. Adelaide was very, very good. We were better!

Our performance reminded me of the Tigers against us in the Covid GF.
Those 3 goals we scored just before half time gave supporters and players immense confidence; like Dusty's goal just before half time. Tigers came off buoyantly at half time, whereas we were bemoaning not taking our opportunities.

 

[D BRIDGE]

I still think what he will potentially be. Don’t get me wrong, I would like to see him flourish wherever he lands. I’m just not as confident he will be a good long term investment.

We can only hope that WC are starting to feel a little less confident in him the way plenty around here are.

I doubt they are, considering they're offering him some enormous contract options.

Reid will be a superstar player... Lock it in Eddie.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think Humphries is an elite half back. As well as being a rebounding defender with great foot schools he is actually also a very good defender.

You could also flick him to the wing if needed

 

[CatToTheFuture]

If they finish bottom, Bombers get their #1 draft pick.

At least it won't be used effectively then

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Side note: remember when I suggested we look at Darcy Fogarty

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Darcy Fogarty

Age

25

Ht

192cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.7

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

G

1.2

4star

D

6.3

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.6

3star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

G

1.0

4star

and everyone was convinced he was not worth it? Good times