Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[cats_09]

Here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

Cheers to Lore for their hard work in setting this up, and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft - and please practice patience grasshoppers if it's not updated in the immediate aftermath of completed trade





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Draft and Trade Period Key Dates​

Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

 

[Footy Smarts]

Neale gives off zero signs of wanting to leave. I can only see him going if he gets an offer way above what we're prepared to pay like Sav did. And history shows we normally get those calls right.

 

[cats_09]

I think and hope he stays loyal

He does have a contract with Cotton On...

 

[calder_daddy]

He does have a contract with Cotton On...

Which was a once off that they didn’t sell online
Don’t get me started, it’s a touchy subject

 

[BORIS332]

Rookie Central's AFL Draft Guide is out, usually a really good read:

2024 AFL Draft Guide View

2024 AFL Draft Guide The 2024 AFL Draft Guide features individual full-page profiles on each of the available AFL Draft Combine invitees.

central.rookieme.com

 

[Turbocat]

I think we are lucky the WA teams are set with their tall forwards

Freo with Amiss, Treacy and Jackson

WC with Allen and Waterman

I don't see him leaving Geelong to go to another team outside WA

Hopefully . The discussion was about how Brisbane replace Daniher. I get the feeling he is happy at Geelong so for the moment ..its going to be unlikely...

 

[My Tilly]

Interesting that Gettable mentioned that Neale had a bit of attention to move elsewhere …and might receive other offers coming out of contract at years end 2025.

I'm hoping he takes a decent step forward next year. If not, perhaps his ceiling may not be what we had all hoped. I'm still hopeful he can become a similar type to Josh Jenkins. Whilst not a star, certainly a very good power forward.

 

[Turbocat]

I'm hoping he takes a decent step forward next year. If not, perhaps his ceiling may not be what we had all hoped. I'm still hopeful he can become a similar type to Josh Jenkins. Whilst not a star, certainly a very good power forward.

He lacks for little bar the engrained ego/confidence of a key player. I feel he has taken a step forward each year . Could be a thorn in the opposition side once he has 100 games up.

 

[My Tilly]

He lacks for little bar the engrained ego/confidence of a key player. I feel he has taken a step forward each year . Could be a thorn in the opposition side once he has 100 games up.

I bloody hope so.
We won't be toppling down the ladder in the coming years if he becomes a player.

 

[BORIS332]

I'm hoping he takes a decent step forward next year. If not, perhaps his ceiling may not be what we had all hoped. I'm still hopeful he can become a similar type to Josh Jenkins. Whilst not a star, certainly a very good power forward.

On his socials he's been in the gym just about every day this off-season. He's got all the tools and most importantly he has the application. He's odds on to make it.

 

[Mattttty]

On his socials he's been in the gym just about every day this off-season. He's got all the tools and most importantly he has the application. He's odds on to make it.

This. He's clearly a VERY hard-working off-season player. Whatever his ceiling is, he's giving himself every chance of reaching it. Great to see and a credit to him.

 

[BennyGan]

While Tommy played more games early than Shannon it wasn't until the later stages of 2011 where he became the gun he was. And that was the end of year 5 for him. Shannon going into year 4 in 2025, I think physically he has starting to look like he is ready. Just gotta get the games into him now. Think he is more than capable of kicking 40 goals next year.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

He's shown why he was taken early. He has some real smarts about him. Great vision, really good above his head for his size and neat disposal. He's also brutal with his body and a few times willed himself on the contest when the game was on the line like Selwood used to. He was too small to really impact though.

The player he could be similar to is Bartel. Both really clever, loved the physical stuff and quality overhead. Both slow mud runners too.

But Bartel was 6cm taller when the average player was shorter than now. Can Clark's marking be as dangerous when he's much shorter? It's also harder to play as a winger or flanker without being a great runner now compared to when Bartel was young.

Bartel didn't show much in his first 2 years either. Their stats look remarkably similar at that point. It's not surprising cause neither had the acceleration of a Holmes or even a Selwood to allow them to be effective on the outside before they matured. Bartel was still playing VFL early in his 3rd season then really became a player once he returned to the team half way through that season.

I'd be pretty surprised if Clark can't be an Atkins midfielder. He has a lot of similarities to him. The question is whether he can be significantly better than that.

This year is the time to find out though. If he doesn't look like he really belongs at the level by the end of this year you'd start to doubt whether he's good enough.

Yeah he's definetely shown some moments of class and quick hands

 

[Lingsface]

I hope Gerreyn gets through to us in the 40's he would be a steal, if not Clancy Dennis could be a nice steal,this is a bit WA focused but both a little under the radar.
Noah Mraz is a gamble we should take as well he has raw potential to the moon and back.
Joel Cochrane to fill that wing end to end running that we had when Isacc Norm Smith was with us, he is a great runner and has the height to drop into holes as well and take a grab.

 

[year of the cat]

I hope Gerreyn gets through to us in the 40's he would be a steal, if not Clancy Dennis could be a nice steal,this is a bit WA focused but both a little under the radar.
Noah Mraz is a gamble we should take as well he has raw potential to the moon and back.
Joel Cochrane to fill that wing end to end running that we had when Isacc Norm Smith was with us, he is a great runner and has the height to drop into holes as well and take a grab.

Think we’d need to trade back in to secure Gerreyn which I hope we do.

Dennis should be available at our picks.

Might be a draft where we look at a few WA boys.

 

[BennyGan]

Think we’d need to trade back in to secure Gerreyn which I hope we do.

Dennis should be available at our picks.

Might be a draft where we look at a few WA boys.

Hamish Davis is also pretty impressive from WA too. Not really sure what his best position will be at AFL and he does have an unusual ball drop (didn’t stop us with Miers). Had a really impressive game in a WAFL final too, love seeing prospects play well at senior level.

 

[year of the cat]

Hamish Davis is also pretty impressive from WA too. Not really sure what his best position will be at AFL and he does have an unusual ball drop (didn’t stop us with Miers). Had a really impressive game in a WAFL final too, love seeing prospects play well at senior level.

I like him a lot but probably feel with the limited ability to trade back in we will have other priorities.

 

[My Tilly]

While Tommy played more games early than Shannon it wasn't until the later stages of 2011 where he became the gun he was. And that was the end of year 5 for him. Shannon going into year 4 in 2025, I think physically he has starting to look like he is ready. Just gotta get the games into him now. Think he is more than capable of kicking 40 goals next year.

The thing with Hawkins though, and this is what frustrated many, he illustrated exceptional talent from the very beginning. At times, he was displaying prodigious ability with his marking and brute power.

 

[BennyGan]

The thing with Hawkins though, and this is what frustrated many, he illustrated exceptional talent from the very beginning. At times, he was displaying prodigious ability with his marking and brute power.

Yeah Tommy certainly showed more flashes but also had a lot more opportunities. He was also a much better prospect though. But the consistency didn’t come till 2011. Also one thing to remember with Shannon is that he played almost all his juniors as a ruck so had to learn how to play forward in the vfl.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

I think we are lucky the WA teams are set with their tall forwards

Freo with Amiss, Treacy and Jackson

WC with Allen and Waterman

I don't see him leaving Geelong to go to another team outside WA

What if he was part of a Harley Reid to Geelong deal ...

 

[FootyLad0]

Interesting that Gettable mentioned that Neale had a bit of attention to move elsewhere …and might receive other offers coming out of contract at years end 2025.

Teams only interested now that Cats are playing him.
He has clothing line with Cotton On, he's heart and soul of the group type of bloke.

He knows he has key forward role locked up.

He won't go anywhere, Scotty has faith in him and Cats don't let guys go easy when they have faith in them.

 

[calder_daddy]

What if he was part of a Harley Reid to Geelong deal ...

Goodbye Shannon

 

[Turbocat]

This kid smells like a Geelong type….. Dairy Farm... country town. … willing to travel etc

How cutting firewood helped to drive SA country kid's draft dream

Hailing from the tiny town of Tantanoola, more than four hours out of Adelaide, Angus Clarke's dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends

www.afl.com.au

How cutting firewood helped to drive SA country kid's draft dream​

Hailing from the tiny town of Tantanoola, more than four hours out of Adelaide, Angus Clarke's dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends
By Josh Gabelich
1 hr ago

Angus Clarke in action during South Australia's Marsh Under-18 Championships clash against Vic Metro on June 30, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos

THE FLIGHT from Mount Gambier to Adelaide takes 70 minutes and is bumpy on a 30-seat plane. Angus Clarke knows the route well. He flew to and from Adelaide nearly a dozen times during a season where he rose from obscurity to be on the radar of AFL clubs across the land.

Not many, if any, draft prospects have travelled further or dug into their own pocket more than Clarke has this year. But that dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

The 18-year-old hails from the tiny farming town Tantanoola, 30 minutes out of Mount Gambier, four and a half hours away from Adelaide. Less than 500 people live in this neck of the woods, where Clarke has grown up working on the family dairy farm.

Clarke has risen from no chance in the pre-season to be a genuine top 40 chance this month, following a stellar campaign for South Australia and Glenelg. But the on-field only reveals a fraction of this story. Getting picked for the state team required a level of commitment from not only the defender, but from Clarke's parents Michelle and Stuart.

Nine-hour roundtrips in the car to Adelaide were part of the winter routine, but not always feasible. Flights from Mount Gambier airport were the other option – the more expensive alternative – which is why Clarke started a side hustle selling cut firewood to help cover some of the expenses.

"My Pa has a scrub on his farm, so after school when I'm free, I cut wood with a chainsaw, split the wood by hand and go and sell it,” Clarke told AFL.com.au at the AFL Draft Combine in October.

"I sell stringy bark loads of wood to help pay for my flights up to Adelaide. I halve whatever I sell with mum and dad to help cover the costs of the flights. I flew up every Friday when I was playing for the state team and it's about $250 per flight and I sell a ute load for $200.

"I came up with the idea when someone came up to me and asked, 'Do you sell wood?' I thought, you know what, I can do that. It just grew from there. Word of mouth in a country town."

Sitting on level three of the MCG a week after the 2024 Grand Final, where the last semblance of the footy season is Brisbane's fading logo on the broadcast wing, Clarke is close to realising a childhood dream. He can't believe he is sitting here. And he knows he wouldn’t be without the staunch support of his family.

"I wouldn't be in this scenario right now if it wasn't for my parents. It is a big commitment, 4.5 hrs drive each way," Clarke said.

"When the state program started, my dad took me up every Wednesday. We'd leave at 10.15am and we would make it just in time. Then the next day we would leave at 4 in the morning to get back for work. I helped dad on the farm to start the day because I don't start school on Thursdays until 10.15. I would cut wood and drop a load of wood off."

Unlike Glenelg teammates, Ben and Lucas Camporeale, who formally nominated to join Carlton as father-son selections last month and grew up in the city, where the twins attended Sacred Heart College, Clarke was out of sight, out of mind for a long time.

The 188cm half-back played 17 games for the Bays in the under-18s in 2023, but seldom at the level he reached in 2024. A switch was flicked earlier this year. He settled in defence. His confidence grew by the week. He methodically crossed off one goal at a time, and when he shone for South Australia against Vic Country and Vic Metro, interest from recruiters spiked.

"I've probably flown under the radar a bit with my footy. I started with little confidence coming into the state program. My goal was just to make the pre-season program. I made that and I was over the moon," he said.

"Then I ended up playing some good footy between the pre-season and when the state footy started. I ended up making the side and was even more over the moon then. We got into the meeting and didn't think I'd be getting a game with the state side. Then I played every game and I was absolutely stoked. Played well and ended up being here at the Combine.

"The goal as a four-year-old running around the oval back home in the country was to make it to the big league. It feels closer to reality now."

Clarke's steep improvement during his time with the South Australian program showed AFL clubs the height of his ceiling. He didn't train with Glenelg when he played 10 games in the under-18s this year. The travel made it too hard around school commitments. Recruiters know he will be a big beneficiary of a full-time environment.

Clarke hasn't had to look too far for inspiration. Essendon star Mason Redman

27

Mason Redman

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.2

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.1

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

262.0

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

4.2

3star

M

3.2

3star

T

1.8

3star

MG

210.3

3star

D

12.0

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.4

4star

MG

144.2

3star

grew up down the road in Millicent, before relocating to Adelaide in his draft year. The teenager models his game on the 27-year-old, who has played 124 games for the Bombers since being selected at pick No.30 in the 2015 AFL Draft.

"I've practically gone his pathway," he said. "I try and base my game around him. He is that half-back with the run. He grew up 15 minutes away."

No matter what happens on November 20 or 21 – or the Rookie Draft on the 22nd – Clarke is packing up his life and moving away from home. If he goes undrafted, he will move to Adelaide to play in the SANFL and work on his uncle's farm near the city.

But it shouldn't get to that.

Clarke has been preparing to leave home for some time. He is willing to go anywhere in the country to play AFL and has met with more than a handful of clubs, including Hawthorn, who made the 11-hour round trip from Waverley Park to visit him at home late in the season.

"It doesn't hold any fears for me. You're like all the recruiters. They all ask how I will go moving away. I tell them I'm moving anyway; I'm moving to Adelaide next year if I don’t get drafted," he said.

"Dad has always said the farm will always be there. Go live your life first and you can always come back. Dad was an accountant first and then he came back to the farm. He likes to tell us he is the most knowledgeable dairy farmer in the south-east."

Clarke could be out of Tantanoola by the end of November and might not be back permanently for a long time. If his AFL career goes to plan, there will be endless flights to come. But none will be as bumpy as the flight in and out of Mount Gambier.

 

[BennyGan]

This kid smells like a Geelong type….. Dairy Farm... country town. … willing to travel etc

How cutting firewood helped to drive SA country kid's draft dream

Hailing from the tiny town of Tantanoola, more than four hours out of Adelaide, Angus Clarke's dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends

www.afl.com.au

How cutting firewood helped to drive SA country kid's draft dream​

Hailing from the tiny town of Tantanoola, more than four hours out of Adelaide, Angus Clarke's dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends
By Josh Gabelich
1 hr ago

Angus Clarke in action during South Australia's Marsh Under-18 Championships clash against Vic Metro on June 30, 2024. Picture: AFL Photos

THE FLIGHT from Mount Gambier to Adelaide takes 70 minutes and is bumpy on a 30-seat plane. Angus Clarke knows the route well. He flew to and from Adelaide nearly a dozen times during a season where he rose from obscurity to be on the radar of AFL clubs across the land.

Not many, if any, draft prospects have travelled further or dug into their own pocket more than Clarke has this year. But that dedication and sacrifice is about to pay dividends at the 2024 Telstra AFL Draft.

The 18-year-old hails from the tiny farming town Tantanoola, 30 minutes out of Mount Gambier, four and a half hours away from Adelaide. Less than 500 people live in this neck of the woods, where Clarke has grown up working on the family dairy farm.

Clarke has risen from no chance in the pre-season to be a genuine top 40 chance this month, following a stellar campaign for South Australia and Glenelg. But the on-field only reveals a fraction of this story. Getting picked for the state team required a level of commitment from not only the defender, but from Clarke's parents Michelle and Stuart.

Nine-hour roundtrips in the car to Adelaide were part of the winter routine, but not always feasible. Flights from Mount Gambier airport were the other option – the more expensive alternative – which is why Clarke started a side hustle selling cut firewood to help cover some of the expenses.

"My Pa has a scrub on his farm, so after school when I'm free, I cut wood with a chainsaw, split the wood by hand and go and sell it,” Clarke told AFL.com.au at the AFL Draft Combine in October.

"I sell stringy bark loads of wood to help pay for my flights up to Adelaide. I halve whatever I sell with mum and dad to help cover the costs of the flights. I flew up every Friday when I was playing for the state team and it's about $250 per flight and I sell a ute load for $200.

"I came up with the idea when someone came up to me and asked, 'Do you sell wood?' I thought, you know what, I can do that. It just grew from there. Word of mouth in a country town."

Sitting on level three of the MCG a week after the 2024 Grand Final, where the last semblance of the footy season is Brisbane's fading logo on the broadcast wing, Clarke is close to realising a childhood dream. He can't believe he is sitting here. And he knows he wouldn’t be without the staunch support of his family.

"I wouldn't be in this scenario right now if it wasn't for my parents. It is a big commitment, 4.5 hrs drive each way," Clarke said.

"When the state program started, my dad took me up every Wednesday. We'd leave at 10.15am and we would make it just in time. Then the next day we would leave at 4 in the morning to get back for work. I helped dad on the farm to start the day because I don't start school on Thursdays until 10.15. I would cut wood and drop a load of wood off."

Unlike Glenelg teammates, Ben and Lucas Camporeale, who formally nominated to join Carlton as father-son selections last month and grew up in the city, where the twins attended Sacred Heart College, Clarke was out of sight, out of mind for a long time.

The 188cm half-back played 17 games for the Bays in the under-18s in 2023, but seldom at the level he reached in 2024. A switch was flicked earlier this year. He settled in defence. His confidence grew by the week. He methodically crossed off one goal at a time, and when he shone for South Australia against Vic Country and Vic Metro, interest from recruiters spiked.

"I've probably flown under the radar a bit with my footy. I started with little confidence coming into the state program. My goal was just to make the pre-season program. I made that and I was over the moon," he said.

"Then I ended up playing some good footy between the pre-season and when the state footy started. I ended up making the side and was even more over the moon then. We got into the meeting and didn't think I'd be getting a game with the state side. Then I played every game and I was absolutely stoked. Played well and ended up being here at the Combine.

"The goal as a four-year-old running around the oval back home in the country was to make it to the big league. It feels closer to reality now."

Clarke's steep improvement during his time with the South Australian program showed AFL clubs the height of his ceiling. He didn't train with Glenelg when he played 10 games in the under-18s this year. The travel made it too hard around school commitments. Recruiters know he will be a big beneficiary of a full-time environment.

Clarke hasn't had to look too far for inspiration. Essendon star Mason Redman grew up down the road in Millicent, before relocating to Adelaide in his draft year. The teenager models his game on the 27-year-old, who has played 124 games for the Bombers since being selected at pick No.30 in the 2015 AFL Draft.

"I've practically gone his pathway," he said. "I try and base my game around him. He is that half-back with the run. He grew up 15 minutes away."

No matter what happens on November 20 or 21 – or the Rookie Draft on the 22nd – Clarke is packing up his life and moving away from home. If he goes undrafted, he will move to Adelaide to play in the SANFL and work on his uncle's farm near the city.

But it shouldn't get to that.

Clarke has been preparing to leave home for some time. He is willing to go anywhere in the country to play AFL and has met with more than a handful of clubs, including Hawthorn, who made the 11-hour round trip from Waverley Park to visit him at home late in the season.

"It doesn't hold any fears for me. You're like all the recruiters. They all ask how I will go moving away. I tell them I'm moving anyway; I'm moving to Adelaide next year if I don’t get drafted," he said.

"Dad has always said the farm will always be there. Go live your life first and you can always come back. Dad was an accountant first and then he came back to the farm. He likes to tell us he is the most knowledgeable dairy farmer in the south-east."

Clarke could be out of Tantanoola by the end of November and might not be back permanently for a long time. If his AFL career goes to plan, there will be endless flights to come. But none will be as bumpy as the flight in and out of Mount Gambier.

be nice having him and Lawson running off half back for the next 10+ years

 

[Turbocat]

be nice having him and Lawson running off half back for the next 10+ years

Both could slice and dice by foot…. Looks like he need to spend a year or two building up so be interesting if he slides..

 

[Hamingja]

Makes young Zuthrie look like Arnie Schwarzenegger