Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread
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There are 6 mids of equal ability, thats the beauty of this draft.
1. Lalor
2. Smillie
3. Draper
4. Jagger
5. FOS
6. Langford plus Ried & Lindsay.
That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.
North have only 2 picks ( 2 & 65) - if u want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2 ? No you won't.
You will take a another mid you don't need & risk losing LDU in the next 2yrs.
I think if Richmond offer 6 & 18 & North will accept so they can get 2 players they really need Tauru & Whitlock.
Another mid they don't need !!
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I would target 10,11 (might need other things too but that’s the core of the deal) instead and take Tauru/Trainor/Armstrong if I were north. Then one of you should bluff the blues out of the preferred player to extract something to slide to 3.
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No - we’re not trading out of this years draft, only potentially up or back in
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I mean you’ll probably still get the guy you want at pick 2 at pick 7, a trade with Melbourne St Kilda or Richmond gives you another excellent draft pick this year or next that benefits your club. Absent a better offer, 7+F1 for 2 is a win win for both parties
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Hey jthanos, some interesting points, there are 6 mids of equal ability, well see now that's the beauty of the draft and different opinions, to some you may be right but to a lot of recruiters out there, their whiteboards will have the varying midfielders in a lot different spots than many people realise, so some will be rated a lot higher on potential than others so the equal ability bit gets washed away and on draft night we are going to get a very good view on this. That's 8 mids that have excelled this year at some point.
Yes indeed, there is no right or wrong here, just varying opinions, I have Lalor/Jagga/Finn/Draper/Langford and Smillie as my six, then there is a gap, but as you pointed out Reid and Lindsay had a great national carnival but to me those two are in that next tier but still very good players, Lindsay is in my opinion the best kick in the draft and to me that is a big tick, sometimes foot skill's are not forgotten but under valued compared to other things.
"North have only 2 picks {2 & 65}, if you want Tauru or Armstrong will you take them at #2? No you won't". That's dead right, because we will explore the possibility of trading in our future first or second rounders so that's not really an issue for us in that regard. If we did take another mid, people quickly forget that he would be replacing Taryn Thomas, so again not a disaster but a bonus.
"Risk losing LDU", to people outside our footy club I can see how this is going to be brought up even by media, because half the time they make up their own agenda's to either get clicks or sell papers and they don't follow up on everything, he's not going anywhere, not only does he love our club but he wants to be one of the players to bring this club back to where it should be, playing finals.
Considering some average players are getting close to a million dollars {yes I know everything has gone up} there is talk he will command the highest offer in history, young future star on the rise, I get it, he's an old fashion "shinboner", he would actually bleed for this club and players like that are very very hard to find.
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I would highly doubt Blair Hartley will be negotiating on this trade
He will have a value and wont move on that value and that wont be 6 and 10/11
Not in this draft and not for a 4 place upgrade.
Just take our picks and trade later picks for F1s
He will have a value and wont move on that value and that wont be 6 and 10/11
Not in this draft and not for a 4 place upgrade.
Just take our picks and trade later picks for F1s
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Langford night end up the best player in the draft. He's a classic "follow me" player. Cripps and Bont like, not super quick but just brilliant when the game is on the line.
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Langford is my favorite player from this draft. Would love him at Port
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I think it makes sense for Richmond to trade up to North's pick 2, but surely they have to give pick 6 and either 10/11 or two of their late first rounders. Bear in mind, there's a consensus that Carlton paid unders by giving up picks 12 + 14 for pick 3.
If I were RFC I'd offer 6 + 20 + 23. Means you get picks 1 and 2, then 10 & 11, then 18 and the first pick of the 2nd night which can be raffled off for a future 1st or used to take your favourite remaining player. I think consecutive picks are really desirable because you don't have to worry about who the intervening clubs might pick and you know you'll get the player you want regardless of who you take with the first pick. And NMFC can get one of the first tier guns plus two more very handy players. If I were NMFC, I'd ask for picks 6 + 10/11 instead (better fits North's list needs) but if that was knocked back I'd do the deal.
Another option might be to offer 10, 11 + 23 for pick 2 but I wouldn't do that if I were Richmond.
If I were RFC I'd offer 6 + 20 + 23. Means you get picks 1 and 2, then 10 & 11, then 18 and the first pick of the 2nd night which can be raffled off for a future 1st or used to take your favourite remaining player. I think consecutive picks are really desirable because you don't have to worry about who the intervening clubs might pick and you know you'll get the player you want regardless of who you take with the first pick. And NMFC can get one of the first tier guns plus two more very handy players. If I were NMFC, I'd ask for picks 6 + 10/11 instead (better fits North's list needs) but if that was knocked back I'd do the deal.
Another option might be to offer 10, 11 + 23 for pick 2 but I wouldn't do that if I were Richmond.
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Is there a huge gap between the player at pick 2 (most likely FOS) and what could be avaliable at 6 which could be Langford, Smillie or the Tigers could get the best KPF in Armstrong? Thats also trading out the 10th or 11th rated player....
I dont see it happening.
I think Tigers could do 6+23 but thats it IMO......
And i dont think North would accept that.
Would it be that big of reach for North to take Taru at 2?
In that situation i could see them bidding on Ashcroft
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I can’t see any point in the tigers entertaining anything unless they get massive overs in the trade. I love their draft haul - will absolutely kill it if they stay with precisely what they have.
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Unless tigers love one of Lalor FOS Smith Draper I would keep pick 6. Take one and then smilie Langford Reid at a minimum will be available.
Maybe saints are the one to look at trading up to get a prime mid. They could deal one of their picks with tigers or giants to get 2 later picks and then bundle the other and a later pick for 2. End up with 2 and a teens pick over 7/8 whilst giants trade up and north slide back.
Maybe saints are the one to look at trading up to get a prime mid. They could deal one of their picks with tigers or giants to get 2 later picks and then bundle the other and a later pick for 2. End up with 2 and a teens pick over 7/8 whilst giants trade up and north slide back.
8 picks is far too many in one year, think of the strain that puts on your fitness staff, welfare staff, development coaches etc.
What they will be weighing up is trading up vs trading out in to next year.
North might offer pick 2 for 6 and 11.
But the Eagles might offer a future first for 11 (worth somewhere between 1 and 8 in next years draft). Could be pick 2, and you've still had 6 this year.
If I was Richmond I'd probably attempt to avoid the urge to trade up as much as possible and instead try to trade out 3 of the picks in to next year.
5 in the top 24 this year, 4 first rounders next year. That's how you build a super team.
Not in Favour of trading up from #6 to get #2 specially if having to give up anything more than #18 as the bonus pick
Richmond will have their choice of best of the super 6 as Cal will name it soon and also get another in the same tier
FOS / Smillie Lalor / Langford Jagga / Tauru Draper / Reid then you have Armstrong , Allan , Treavaglia all in contention for top 10.
Selection of 4 of the top 11 spots is a bloody strong hand
#1 - Lalor
#6 - Smillie / Langford
#10 - Armstrong
#11 - Berry
#18 - Hotton
#20 - Hannaford
#23 - Gerreyn / Shannahan / Trainor / Hynes / Faull
#24 - 1st pick on day 2 trade out for F1
More than happy to have the above as our selections which are a very real possibility to be available at the picks
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I don’t agree. I think get all 8 this year. Even with all 8 picks in the top 24 at least 1 or 2 won’t make it and they might as well work that through and take picks on top in ensuing years. I’d go full GWS/GC whilst they can. At least Richmond still have a fairly solid core of older players to learn from and lean on which the new franchises never really had. I see it working as long as they don’t pull a North and select 8 straight mids.
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I'd be surprised if we took 8, there might be a trade up if it's in our interests to do so, also having the 1st pick on the 2nd night will have value but that value might just be in our favour by having the choice of any of the 2nd round players still available.
If no decent offers are forthcoming, then we may just go full boar mode and take 8. We've broken the mold in how to attack the draft, why not continue the theme and have a crack at developing 8 youngsters at once? As stated, we have a solid core of experienced players, but we also have access to the recently retired one's, Cotchin comes to mind here.
I hear this often but disagree
In which way would it be hard to manage ?
Most of the kids taken will be mids / smalls and with where Richmond are at it will be all about development and the future kids will get games both at VFL & AFL level in their first years.
I have also heard the 'they will all come out of contract at the same time reason but thats just silly
You will have kids that show alot in their first 3 years and will get 3-4 year extensions and some that wont that will get 2 years then after that this kids that are looking like long term get longer term and other less
Once at the club they all develop at different rates.
I really dont think bringing 8-10 players into a club that has 44 players on a list is that hard with the amount of coaches and development staff at clubs these days . Maybe 30 years ago but not in 2025
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GWS had - Phil Davies, Dean Brogan, Tom Scully, Cal Ward, Chad Cornes, Luke Power and James McDonald. That was a solid core for the players to learn from.
Then the rest were all kids 18/19
Lynch , Vlastuin , Broad , Balta , Hopper , Prestia , Nankervis , Short are a level above the GWS senior guys at the time they arrived and only Davies , Scully , Ward were really still playing good level footy
But its the next tier that were missing players 3-4 years in the system that was the difference
But of course they had alot of unknown kids that some played well in their 1st years
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