Draft Expert Davo-27's 2024 Draft Thread

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I'd pick Travaglia TBH.
He's quicker and has better endurance, he breaks lines, he is a good defensive runner (which Langford is not) and also an exceptional interceptor.
Whilst I do rate Travaglia, and do think he is worthy of a top 10 pick for the right team, I can see the argument for Langford being the number 1 pick and believe Langford has the higher ceiling. Langford is an elite mark, has a borderline elite left foot kick that can break lines, has excellent vision, reads the play well, can play inside whilst also hurting teams on the spread, can intercept, kicks goals, and was the joint Larke Medallist. Langford has also improved his speed over the course of the year, I am guessing the Combine results will tell if he is a sub 3.1 seconds for the 20 metres, and if his endurance has improved in the beep test. A couple of pre-seasons in the AFL will also markedly improve both of these categories.
 

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Lalor seems to be coming for pick 1 with a head of steam. Thoughts?
I have always thought he could be the best player in the draft

But will state I think he will be a slower burn, in that it will take 3 seasons for him to hit his mark

He wont be winning the rising star in his first year

He has so much work to do on his fitness

This is a kid that has never ever done a preseason because of cricket commitments

So upside is huge, but playing inside mid and being unfit is a recipe for being injury prone

And this will his problem because one preseason wont fix his fitness issues

Especially since new recruits first pre-season is scaled back so much
 
Lalor seems to be coming for pick 1 with a head of steam. Thoughts?
Richmond have been Rumoured to be into Lalor for awhile, so it's no surprise he is linked to them, Cal seems to have mail that Richmond are choosing between FOS and Lalor, as for Lalor, he played good footy for a disappointing Vic Cohntry side in the u16s, debuted later that year as a 15 or fresh 16 yo for GWV Rebels, played well and then had a good year in his underage year for the Rebels, unfortunately injured for most of this year, but showed signs of quality with his strong pack marking playing forward, has played mostly midfield but has showed that he can fit into a forward line if needed, strong medium sized mid/forw, the pick 1 is open this year, most of the top 10 could go pick 1 without too many surprises.
 
Travalgia vs Langford

Who is better and why??
They play different roles.

Langford is a midfielder who can win plenty of footy, take strong contested marks, run all day, but limited speed

Travaglia is an intercept specialist who can create counter attack/Turn over footy, run and carry, has speed, positions well in defence, he can then run forward as an option in the same play as he intercepts.

It's like asking, who is better? Dangerfield or Stewart for Geelong? (differences in style and ability, not a direct comparison)
 
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They play different roles.

Langford is a midfielder who can win plenty of footy, take strong contested marks, run all day, but limited speed

Travaglia is an intercept specialist who can create counter attack/Turn over footy, run and carry, has speed, positions well in defence, he can then run forward as an option in the same play as he intercepts.

It's like asking, who is better? Dangerfield or Stewart for Geelong? (differences in style and ability, not a direct comparison)
Thanks for that, so selecting them would most likely be on a clubs needs in terms of who would be taken first?
 
i think the biggest winner from the combine is Gabriel Stumpf from Northern who is a 196cm KPF who played a couple games for Vic Metro at the u18s, looked good at Northern and at the trials, his athletic traits are better than i thought, he doesnt kick enough goals as a forward atm but could develop that side and could make the transition as a defender with that athletic profile, AFL Clubs love proven athletic traits so i would guess a lot of clubs would like to give him a chance based on those performances. (5th best recorded 20m sprint ever!!! and the highest standing vertical jump)

Luke Urquhart also did very well of those not certain top 30 picks who will move up a bit based on combine results imo (2.97 20m sprint 6:25 2km)

Jasper Alger did well also with 6:30 2km and 2.931 on the 20m sprint as well as having the odd big game this year

Leo Lombard had a huge combine nearly breaking records, should push him into top 5 imo

Alix Tauru also is quick and flies high which we've seen, but this guarantees his top 10 credentials or thereabouts, those elite berserker viking genetics shining through :D

Rhys Unwin also showed his agility and speed and his move into the midfield from being a small forward has improved his stocks imo, but these combine results will also help

i think all 6 will boost their draft stocks, being top tier in multiple different trials that gives them advantage in their position or roles that they will play at the next level...



P.S. FOS having a good 2km(6:28), sprint(2.98), agility(8:15) and running jump(93cm) results prove he has an amazing athletic profile, possibly the best all round profile in this draft.
 
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i think the biggest winner from the combine is Gabriel Stumpf from Northern who is a 196cm KPF who played a couple games for Vic Metro at the u18s, looked good at Northern and at the trials, his athletic traits are better than i thought, he doesnt kick enough goals as a forward atm but could develop that side and could make the transition as a defender with that athletic profile, AFL Clubs love proven athletic traits so i would guess a lot of clubs would like to give him a chance based on those performances. (5th best recorded 20m sprint ever!!! and the highest standing vertical jump)

Luke Urquhart also did very well of those not certain top 30 picks who will move up a bit based on combine results imo

Jasper Alger did well also with 6:30 2km and 2.931 on the 20m sprint as well as having the odd big game this year

Leo Lombard had a huge combine nearly breaking records, should push him into top 5 imo

Alix Tauru also is quick and flies high which we've seen, but this guarantees his top 10 credentials or thereabouts, those elite berserker viking genetics shining through :D

Rhys Unwin also showed his agility and speed and his move into the midfield from being a small forward has improved his stocks imo, but these combine results will also help

i think all 6 will boost their draft stocks, being top tier in multiple different trials that gives them advantage in their position or roles that they will play at the next level...



P.S. FOS having a good 2km(6:28), sprint(2.98), agility(8:15) and running jump(93cm) results prove he has an amazing athletic profile, possibly the best all round profile in this draft.
Thanks for your efforts.

Is it fair to compare FOS to Deledio?
 
i didnt see enough of Deledio to make that comparison, but i guess similar but FOS has a stronger build, Deledio was a bit slimmer.
Lids was a unit at one stage. Probably when he needed to play more inside.
Do youself a favour and watch this.

 
Top 52 prospects for 2025 so far, prediction of their groupings (early prediction, obviously things will change as players get tested and i see all of the talent in the 2025 draft pool, but these are my early readings, enjoy)

(23) 1st round - Dyson Sharp(likely pick 1), Sam Cumming, Fred Rodriguez, Cody Curtin, Basil Hart(Frem NGA), Zeke Uwland(GCS), Daniel Annable(Bris), Ryder Corrigan, Dylan Patterson(GCS), Liam Hetherton, Archie Ludowyke, Oliver Greeves, Thomas McGuane(Coll FS), Lachlan Dovaston, Sam Grlj, Jack Dalton, Cooper Duff-Tytler, Felix Kneipp, Riley Onley, Willem Duursma, Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves, Josh Lindsay, Louis Emmett

(29) 2nd round - Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier, Noah Roberts-Thompson, Aiden Schubert, Louis Kellaway(Rich FS), Jim Kelly, Marcus Cassidy, Jadd Hill, Taj Longmuir, Toby Whan(Frem NGA), Sam Swadling, Charlie Banfield(WCE FS), Darcy Montgomery, Wes Walley(WCE NGA), Koby Evans(WCE NGA), Noah Chamberlain(Syd), Lachlan Carmichael(Syd), Beau Addinsall(GCS), Kalani White(Melb FS/GCS), Giuseppe Posterino, Thomas Burton, Xavier Bamert, Mitch Moate, Jamie Gilchrist, Tairon Ah-Mu, Jobe Scapin, Zach O'Keefe, Jasper Russell, Sam Lewis, Harry Morphett
Saw most of these boys play over the years during the Coates Talent League at normal U19/U16s level, school football and the 2023 U16 National Championships. This draft seems different from the usual, as apart from the top few prospects, it seems very open and has a lot of room for some people to fly up the ranks, so instead of talking about the main prospects, here are some of your listed second round picks that I think could be massive risers.

Cooper Duff Tyler (Calder Cannons):
Serious potential in this one. Tall player with a basketball background but moves so incredibly well, could be the perfect modern midfielder that many teams are looking for, wouldn't be suprised if he makes his way to a top 10 pick by the end of the year, keep an eye on him to rise massively in 2025.

Mitch Moate (Northern Knights):
Unfortunately suffered an ACL injury this year, stopping him from playing for the majority of the year. He is an explosive midfielder rated highly by his peers for his work ethic and clean skills with ball in hand. Seeing him still at a second round projection after missing a year is promising, definitely someone to look out for in season 2025.

Xavier Bamert (Sandringham Dragons)
Didn't play much football this year, suffered a shoulder injury in the 2024 Coates Grand Final, which forced him to miss the U17's futures match at the MCG on grand final day. Fantastic runner and covers the ground tremendously, along with being a strong mark and having great ball use.

These are just a few of the players I think have great potential, and are the most likely to rise next year to possible first round, or even top 15/10 picks.
 
Saw most of these boys play over the years during the Coates Talent League at normal U19/U16s level, school football and the 2023 U16 National Championships. This draft seems different from the usual, as apart from the top few prospects, it seems very open and has a lot of room for some people to fly up the ranks, so instead of talking about the main prospects, here are some of your listed second round picks that I think could be massive risers.

Cooper Duff Tyler (Calder Cannons):
Serious potential in this one. Tall player with a basketball background but moves so incredibly well, could be the perfect modern midfielder that many teams are looking for, wouldn't be suprised if he makes his way to a top 10 pick by the end of the year, keep an eye on him to rise massively in 2025.

Mitch Moate (Northern Knights):
Unfortunately suffered an ACL injury this year, stopping him from playing for the majority of the year. He is an explosive midfielder rated highly by his peers for his work ethic and clean skills with ball in hand. Seeing him still at a second round projection after missing a year is promising, definitely someone to look out for in season 2025.

Xavier Bamert (Sandringham Dragons)
Didn't play much football this year, suffered a shoulder injury in the 2024 Coates Grand Final, which forced him to miss the U17's futures match at the MCG on grand final day. Fantastic runner and covers the ground tremendously, along with being a strong mark and having great ball use.

These are just a few of the players I think have great potential, and are the most likely to rise next year to possible first round, or even top 15/10 picks.
The list you quoted isn't in order, it's grouped by state of origin
 

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Haha...he's having a dig at me mate. I thought it was pretty cool. I like Davo-27 as he knows.
Oh, I thought it actually was grouped by state of origin after I looked, because he used the same order of colour in both the first and second round.

Doesn't really matter anyways because I was talking about the people in the 2nd round that would rise, regardless their order. :sweatsmile::sweatsmile:
 
So upside is huge, but playing inside mid and being unfit is a recipe for being injury prone

On the flip side Cripps ran an 11 Beep test at the Combine (and most of us middle aged dudes reading this could do an 11 beep test) and he's a handy inside mid.

Collingwood were into him but that turned Rendell right off him.

No injuries to date other than broken bones.

Definitely a fair bit fitter now than the puppy fat giant that rolled into the Combine 11 years ago.
 
Just wondering if Hugh Boxshall is going to jump up a few draft boards after his State Combine performance. To my mind he would at least be a 3rd - 4th round pick, and could understand a case being made for him being a late second pick. I actually thought that WA has some decent talent this year with the likes of Bo Allan, Kayle Gerreyn, Hamish Davis, Luke Urquhart, Hugh Boxshall, Malakai Champion, Clancy Dennis and a few others.
 
Just wondering if Hugh Boxshall is going to jump up a few draft boards after his State Combine performance. To my mind he would at least be a 3rd - 4th round pick, and could understand a case being made for him being a late second pick. I actually thought that WA has some decent talent this year with the likes of Bo Allan, Kayle Gerreyn, Hamish Davis, Luke Urquhart, Hugh Boxshall, Malakai Champion, Clancy Dennis and a few others.

I've said this before but I think Jack Ough and Hugh Boxshall are under rated, both are brave and throw themselves into the contest, the flying backwards to take a mark i50 from Boxshall at the champs was what Glenn Archer used to do, too bad he missed the goal after those heroics and Ough is turning into a smooth moving midfielder.

As for WA I think the first 6 names are the best from WA with a chance for Hayes, Angrove, Artemis and Burke to get drafted as well... maybe Dennis?
 
Oh, I thought it actually was grouped by state of origin after I looked, because he used the same order of colour in both the first and second round.

Doesn't really matter anyways because I was talking about the people in the 2nd round that would rise, regardless their order. :sweatsmile::sweatsmile:
I've had Duff-Tytler high for some time, inside my early top 10 if you want to see it it's on the 1st page of this thread, Bamert looked good for Sandringham, but needs to show more and Moate was good at the u16s but also needs to show more which is why they are I the 2nd round atm, the 2 vic boys in my 2nd round I have high hopes for improvement are Thomas Burton who has developed a lot this year at Western Jets and Giuseppe Posterino who I really liked from the u16s who plays for Geelong Falcons.

From the other states, I've had the 2 hyphens from SA rated highly before, Chamberlain could rate highly from Syd A and from WA there's a few like Whan, Swadling, Cassidy and Montgomery who could rise into the 1sf round.

It will become clearer next season.
 
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Just having a guess as to what round 1 might look like before the last day of trading

Phantom Draft

1. Rich - Lalor
2. Bris - (bid) Ashcroft
3. NM - J.Smith
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Draper
6. Ess - (bid) Kako
7. Melb - Smillie
8. GCS - (bid) Lombard
9. Rich - Langford
10. StK - Armstrong
11. StK - M.Reid
12. Melb - Tauru
13. Rich - Berry
14. Frem - Bo Allan
15. WCE - Travaglia
16. Port - Gerreyn
17. Rich - Lindsay
18. Carl - (bid) B.Camporeale
19. GWS - Hotton
20. GWS - Ough
21. WB - Trainor
22. Rich - Hynes
23. Syd - Shanahan
24. Bris - (bid) Marshall
25. Rich - Stumpf
 
Just having a guess as to what round 1 might look like before the last day of trading

Phantom Draft

1. Rich - Lalor
2. Bris - (bid) Ashcroft
3. NM - J.Smith
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Draper
6. Ess - (bid) Kako
7. Melb - Smillie
8. GCS - (bid) Lombard
9. Rich - Langford
10. StK - Armstrong
11. StK - M.Reid
12. Melb - Tauru
13. Rich - Berry
14. Frem - Bo Allan
15. WCE - Travaglia
16. Port - Gerreyn
17. Rich - Lindsay
18. Carl - (bid) B.Camporeale
19. GWS - Hotton
20. GWS - Ough
21. WB - Trainor
22. Rich - Hynes
23. Syd - Shanahan
24. Bris - (bid) Marshall
25. Rich - Stumpf
Thank you Davo after today you have restored my faith in humanity. TT incoming
Making us Eagles fans smile.

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Just having a guess as to what round 1 might look like before the last day of trading

Phantom Draft

1. Rich - Lalor
2. Bris - (bid) Ashcroft
3. NM - J.Smith
4. Carl - FOS
5. Adel - Draper
6. Ess - (bid) Kako
7. Melb - Smillie
8. GCS - (bid) Lombard
9. Rich - Langford
10. StK - Armstrong
11. StK - M.Reid
12. Melb - Tauru
13. Rich - Berry
14. Frem - Bo Allan
15. WCE - Travaglia
16. Port - Gerreyn
17. Rich - Lindsay
18. Carl - (bid) B.Camporeale
19. GWS - Hotton
20. GWS - Ough
21. WB - Trainor
22. Rich - Hynes
23. Syd - Shanahan
24. Bris - (bid) Marshall
25. Rich - Stumpf

Not bad but I think Richmond go for a few talls with the haul.
 

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