List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[eaglesnutcase]

Go look at the list of any other team and they have double that number of "mids" on the list. We lack quantity and quality. Another one at the msd essential.

I agree we need more mids esp for depth but the first four I mentioned are/will be quality if they can stay on the park and at the club.
When you look at the Dorkers ; it’s Brayshaw Young and Serong.
Melbourne is Petracca,Oliver and Viney.
Yes they have a support cast but generally two or three guns.Reid,Hewy and Gross I believe will be that three.
If you have 4-6 gun mids you are then faced with the problem of shoehorning them into the forward line or them leaving chasing more game time,money and recognition.
Great problem to have I suppose.
Another mid sure but our looming problem is a KPD.
They take longer to develop or do we buy one?

 

[WCEswift]

If we could end up with evans and cole that would be elite, just give a few of the senior boys the old yeller treatment

 

[WCE777]

I agree we need more mids esp for depth but the first four I mentioned are/will be quality if they can stay on the park and at the club.
When you look at the Dorkers ; it’s Brayshaw Young and Serong.
Melbourne is Petracca,Oliver and Viney.
Yes they have a support cast but generally two or three guns.Reid,Hewy and Gross I believe will be that three.
If you have 4-6 gun mids you are then faced with the problem of shoehorning them into the forward line or them leaving chasing more game time,money and recognition.
Great problem to have I suppose.
Another mid sure but our looming problem is a KPD.
They take longer to develop or do we buy one?

WC need another 2 elite mids through the draft and 1 KPD this year or next through the draft.
We probably should buy 1 also who is playing or ready to play.

 

[Lia]

Didn't realise Burgeil and Barnett were taken in the 20s. **** me.

Thank goodness Ginbey has found a spot on a HBF and Hewett played a good half last week otherwise we'd be proper ****ed.

Picking a ruckman if you can even call Barnett that now in the top 25 that was never a Nic Nat, Jackson or Grundy level talent was always proper dumb.

 

[CountryLad]

Picking a ruckman if you can even call Barnett that now in the top 25 that was never a Nic Nat, Jackson or Grundy level talent was always proper dumb.

I’m not rushing to defend our club but the talent pool just wasn’t there in that draft. It’s not like there are heaps of options that were taken after Barnett and Burgiel that are tearing it apart at AFL level.

They have both been proper busts though which doesn’t help.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Picking a ruckman if you can even call Barnett that now in the top 25 that was never a Nic Nat, Jackson or Grundy level talent was always proper dumb.

In hindsight sure, but he was being compared to Grundy at draft time.

 

[eagles rule]

In hindsight sure, but he was being compared to Grundy at draft time.

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Can we sue those idiots ?

 

[06Premiers]

Didn't realise Burgeil and Barnett were taken in the 20s. **** me.

Thank goodness Ginbey has found a spot on a HBF and Hewett played a good half last week otherwise we'd be proper ****ed.

Long is probably the best player after round 1, so it's not like we made a big blunder.

 

[TwoStriders]

So a caveat to this entire post… all of this is all based on raw stat reading and not actually watching/scouting the players on the field. But I thought it was interesting to benchmark the performance of a few of our KPD targets in the State Leagues to see if there were any comparable players who would theoretically be much cheaper or easier to obtain.

I’ll start with our very own Sandy Brock as a point of reference.

Sandy Brock – 22 years old, 198cm
2024 VFL: 18 games, 10.3 disposals, 4.3 marks, 0.9 tackles, 45.6 fantasy score
2025 WAFL: 1 game, 14 disposals, 4 marks, 3 tackles

As compared to some targets discussed in this thread.

Zach Reid – 23 years old, 200cm (Essendon)
2024 VFL: 4 games, 17.3 disposals, 6.8 marks, 1.5 tackles, 70.5 fantasy score (Not much of a sample size)

Jedd Busslinger – 21 years old, 198cm (Bulldogs)
2024 VFL: 19 games, 20.6 disposals, 7.8 marks, 1.1 tackles, 82.8 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 3 games, 25.3 disposals, 7.7 marks, 1.7 tackles

Jacob Blight – 23 years old, 196cm (Richmond)
2024 WAFL: 7 games, 18.4 disposals, 8.7 marks, 1.0 tackles
2024 VFL: 7 games, 19.1 disposals, 6.9 marks, 1.6 tackles, 77.6 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 2 games, 13.5 disposals, 6 marks, 2 tackles

Some much cheaper players who may be flying under the radar:

Wade Derksen – 23 years old, 194cm (the Giants website lists him at 197cm)
2024 VFL: 17 games, 19.4 disposals, 6.9 marks, 1.6 tackles, 80.0 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 3 games, 21.7 disposals, 7.3 marks, 0.0 tackles, 81.3 fantasy score

Charlie Dean – 23 years old, 195cm (Collingwood)
2024 VFL: 12 games, 19.8 disposals, 8.2 marks, 1.3 tackles, 80.4 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 3 games, 15.0 disposals, 4.7 marks, 1.7 tackles, 62.0 fantasy score

Anthony Davis – 23 years old, 196cm (Claremont)
2024 WAFL: 20 games, 18.7 disposals, 5.5 marks, 1.9 tackles
2025 WAFL: 3 games, 18.9 disposals, 6.3 marks, 3.3 tackles

Both Dean and Derksen are OOC at the end of the year. Davis would be eligible for the MSD.

The Dean/Derksen/Davis trio all compare pretty well with the more recogniseable names. There may well be athletic and skill limitations that make them unplayable at AFL level, but food for thought.

Just for further benchmarking, here's a couple of other highly rated young KPD who can’t crack their AFL sides yet.

Lewis Hayes – 20 years old, 199cm (Essendon)
2024 VFL: 18 games, 17.6 disposals, 5.8 marks, 1.6 tackles, 70.3 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 3 games, 23.3 disposals, 11.7 marks, 3.7 tackles, 110.7 fantasy score

Leek Aleer – 23 years old, 194cm (Giants)
2024 VFL: 9 games, 12.1 disposals, 4.4 marks, 1.9 tackles, 49.2 fantasy score
2025 VFL: 3 games, 16.7 disposals, 6.7 marks, 1.3 tackles, 68.7 fantasy score

 

[Lia]

Physical presence lmao, clearly he was either thoroughly West Coast Eagled in record time or those scouts are clueless.

 

[Chris_6678]

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Chad Warner

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1.5

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0.0

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4.5

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2.5

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has signed on at Sydney. Two year deal. Locked in.
@FootyonNine

@9NewsMelb

 

[Biggie]

 

[Woutizmoo]

crisis averted

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Boooooooo.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Thank ****ing God. The last thing we need is another Tim Kelly situation on our hands. Give up nothing but salary cap space to get him when he's an unrestricted free agent in two years.

 

[Boohemian]

Huzzah! Keep the draft capital and see him again in two years.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

boxshall looks like he had quite the day out on the weekend.

****ing saints…

 

[eaglevision]

boxshall looks like he had quite the day out on the weekend.

****ing saints…

Only got ourselves to blame for that one.

 

[quackish]

Boy are we lucky. Thank you Chad

 

[ArdentEagle]

Didn't realise Burgeil and Barnett were taken in the 20s. **** me.

Thank goodness Ginbey has found a spot on a HBF and Hewett played a good half last week otherwise we'd be proper ****ed.

Like Ze Germans?

 

[Quinz]

See you in 2 years Chadly

 

[Cuzz09]

YOUNG GUNS

#	NAME	HT	STATE LEAGUE CLUB	COMMUNITY CLUB
6	Charlie Rozenes	172	Sandringham Dragons Sandringham VFL	Old Collegians
8	Sam Toner	184	Richmond VFL	Narre Warren
9	Rod Ali	186	Eastern Ranges	Mitcham
10	Jhett Haeata	185	Sandringham Dragons Richmond (VFL)	Beaumaris
11	Oliver Depaoli-Kubank	178	Tasmania Devils	Ulverstone
12	Tom Evans	180	Bendigo Pioneers	Echuca
13	Coen Ainsworth	180	Murray Bushrangers	Wodonga Bulldogs
14	Hugh White	183	Northern Knights	Doncaster East
15	Adrian Cole	197	Dandenong Stingrays North Melbourne VFL	St Bedes/Mentone
16	Gus Papal	193	Calder Cannons	Aberfeldie
17	Zac Walker	191	Gippsland Power	Phillip Island
18	Noah Yze	191	Oakleigh Chargers Casey Demons VFL	Old Melburnians
19	Charlie Orchard	190	Dandenong Stingrays	Langwarrin
20	Max Roney	186	Tasmania Devils Casey Demons VFL	Cheltenham
21	Henry Hayes	189	Dandenong Stingrays	Rye
22	Caleb Lewis	196	Casey Demons VFL	Dingley
23	Jez Rigoni	189	Oakleigh Chargers Sandringham VFL	Wangaratta Rovers
24	Seth MacDonald	189	Eastern Ranges Richmond VFL	Rowville
25	Kobe George	188	Geelong Falcons	Bell Park
27	Floyd Burmeister	199	GWV Rebels	Redan
28	Zac Harding	199	Murray Bushrangers	Wodonga Bulldogs
29	Lucas Impey	200	Williamstown VFL	Darley
35	Ayden McCarroll	209	Western Jets	Williamstown CYMS

Young guns squad for this weekend. Evans, Cole and Burmeister would seem the most likely options for us to keep an eye on for the MSD.

Coen!

Coz we need a new Anus

 

[Cuzz09]

Chad's saved us from ourselves somewhat...

More picks!!

Maybe we can put a little teaser to Pickett

 

[ArdentEagle]

For starters you don't do it over one draft, obviously

We're still yet to really hit a proper draft with a healthy rebuild esq draft hand. Barrass departing has enabled that to be this offseason. Thanks to Hawthorns draft hand.

We can also FOR ONCE be the benefit of what is the Free Agency Compo farce. This rarely happens with us, when a "spud" like Allen who is clearly not worth pick 2 can automatically net us compensation far higher in value than the player themselves. We need to absolutely take advantage of this.

Not to throw much shade at Allen, he's middle of his career, injury prone, has kicked 50 goals only once and is in The worst form of his career.

Anyway all of this leads us to finally have a draft warchest to really hit it hard and try to fill some of the MANY gaps on our list. Add in our collection of NGA's coming through and it's even better

"You can't just go to the draft to do a rebuild, evey club has the same amount of picks..." You act like we haven't already commenced our rebuild already. Hewett, Reid, Gross, Ginbey, Shanahan, A.Reid could all be a big part of it, we're already on the way somewhat. A solid offseason hitting the draft and suddenly some of those list holes might actually be filled.

Jury is out on whether it was worth burning pick 2 for Baker/Graham to "raise our floor and stop the floggings" when we're arguably worse this year when we were last year.

What we DON'T want to do is continue being in denial about where our list is at and get seduced into putting a band-aid over our situation by burning quality draft picks that could be long term players for the sake of a short term fix

Yes, FA is out of the question this year because of Allen leaving doesn't mean that's the case next year. Top it up further. You can still trade and pickup the right players for your list without giving away top picks.

You keep banging on about Warner coming... Why? Why does everyone keep talking about this and entertaining the idea of trading for him to make us more competitive when if we be patient we can add him to our side for the cost of no draft capital?

"Get Bont, trade for Warner and suddenly we've got a top midfield!!!".. yeah sure, for 2 years it's competitive and then what? The rest of the team still sucks. We still don't have our bookends. A solid full back and CHB. Even with Warner and Bont in this hypothetical we still aren't contending for a flag, it's a waste of time as the other pieces aren't there. It's blatantly obvious.

A rebuild is a long mission if you don't have some key pillars in place. Another draft and we might. Sometimes you're in a position to to go the flag push and give away picks, and other times you're not. Take Cockburn for example. They're at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to flag window. They've got loads of young talent and are in the position now to burn picks and add players like Bolton and Pickett. Yes it hasn't worked yet because they're a joke of a club, but list build wise they're doing the right things and makes sense for them. It doesn't for us.

I'm at work and the reply has to be quick.

I agree with most of what you've written mate BUT I will say that adding Bont is worth way more than what we'd get out of him as a player, which is amazing in its own right.

He'd be brilliant for the development of our young kids, especially the mids and help them achieve their true potential.

Playing coach and hopefully stays on to become a midfield coach.

That combo is probably worth a mid first round, in my eyes

 

[Wce17]

Chad's saved us from ourselves somewhat...

More picks!!

Maybe we can put a little teaser to Pickett

At least drive up his price.