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List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order
 

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Dark Sharks said:
"Making us better" isn't necessarily what we're after if it comes at a cost, particularly long term cost via top end draft picks. We legit only just did that last year with Baker.

I'd take pick 2 over a 30-31yr old Bontempelli who has already won a flag and playing for nothing other than money for a couple seasons in WA.

You're on crack if you think we're rolling hIm out at 34-35 with all the extra travel he'd have to do. Even if we did, to what end? There's so many areas of this list that needs work it's pointless paying a premium to add an A grader to it right now. Oh yay, we finished 14th instead of 18th, that's huge, all our problems are solved.

Ditto Warner.

Just be patient and actually rebuild properly.
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Bont would add a lot more to us than just his individual playing ability but yeah compromising the compo doesn’t seem worth it.

Only reason it was brought up on here initially was the fact that we need to spend the salary cap somewhere so why not the uncontracted, best player in the comp. Somehow that’s turned into a full blow West article with zero substance.

Impossible to get both Bont and pick 2 you’d think but if one of them were a trade does that move the needle?

ie. we trade Oscar to Brisbane for a later first and get Bont in FA, or trade the compo to the Bulldogs for Bont and something else coming back? (harder to do than the first one you’d think).
 
Broken_Chairs said:
The Bont & Warner would be fantastic gets to guide our young mids back to success - would also mean we're not overpaying spuds just to make up our salary cap.

Cannot see a world where Bont actually comes to us, but can't deny it would be great.
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Bell was asked on radio if West Coast was actively chasing Bont and he said the first he heard about it was in the West.
 

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Dark Sharks said:
"Making us better" isn't necessarily what we're after if it comes at a cost, particularly long term cost via top end draft picks. We legit only just did that last year with Baker.

I'd take pick 2 over a 30-31yr old Bontempelli who has already won a flag and playing for nothing other than money for a couple seasons in WA.

You're on crack if you think we're rolling hIm out at 34-35 with all the extra travel he'd have to do. Even if we did, to what end? There's so many areas of this list that needs work it's pointless paying a premium to add an A grader to it right now. Oh yay, we finished 14th instead of 18th, that's huge, all our problems are solved.

Ditto Warner.

Just be patient and actually rebuild properly.
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How are you supposed to rebuild if you just use the draft? You get 3 picks in the top 60, that's it. Due to academies and FA pushing out selections, the last place team gets pick 1 (or sometimes pick 2 if a FS or Academy kid is taken at 1), second round pick 19 often moves to mid to late 20s and third round pick 55 is off into the stratosphere.

Even if you achieve a miracle and get best 22 players with all three selections, that's 8 drafts to rebuild a whole team. But the guys you selected in the first year would age out by the team the last selected guys get 3-5 pre-seasons in.

No, a "proper" rebuild has to involve trades and FA or you have no chance to get enough selections in (unless you have a bunch of academy and FS kids).

As others have said, it's about getting a core group of A Graders together and the role players will then appear. If Bont actually said he was coming, then you can guarantee Harley stays for at least 2 years. Then Warner probably decides it would be super fun to play with those boys. Then a bunch of B grade role players probably decide to jump over too (eg Cameron the ruck from Pies). Suddenly we go from the worst midfield to top 4 quality (with young guys like Hewett, Gross etc as great depth).

Hawks did this well in the last two off seasons and they're likely to be around the top 8 for the next several years.
 

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Bit of news about Cameron and Zach Reid, nothing particularly earth shattering.​


TALKS RUMBLE ON FOR IN-FORM PIE​

COLLINGWOOD ruck Darcy Cameron is hopeful his future will be at the Pies, as discussions around a potential contract extension beyond his existing deal at the club rumble on.

The in-form Cameron is contracted through to 2026, though a number of clubs have signalled an interest in the premiership player as negotiations on a potential extension at the AIA Centre continue to simmer.

West Coast has been keen on Cameron, who is from Western Australia, while Carlton and St Kilda are among the clubs with a watching brief pending an outcome on the future of star free agent Tom De Koning.

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Tom De Koning and Darcy Cameron compete in the ruck during the match between Collingwood and Carlton at the MCG in round four, 2025. Picture: Getty Images
Speaking to AFL.com.au on the eve of his 100th game for Collingwood last week, Cameron said his agent Colin Young from Young Guns Sports Management is having weekly chats with club officials around his future.

"I think so," Cameron said when asked if he sees his future at Collingwood.

"My manager's in constant conversations with Collingwood. He's catching up with them and talking with them almost weekly, then he's reporting back to me every couple of weeks about where it sits. Hopefully, we can get something sorted out. But I'll let him sort that out."

FEATURE
100 games, one bounce and the surprise stat that has Pies ruck in rare air
Cameron is among the League's top rucks and enjoyed a career-best season last year, earning a place in the All-Australian squad and finishing in second place in Collingwood's best and fairest count.

Having averaged 18.5 disposals and 28.5 hitouts to begin this season, Cameron hasn't let the speculation around his future impact his form and has said his attention remains firmly fixed on his football.

"I just like to focus on my footy," Cameron said. "My manager … he'll come back to with anything that needs to be said. I just like to focus on footy and try and let that do the talking." – Riley Beveridge

BOMBER YOUNGSTER KEEN TO STAY​

ESSENDON defender Zach Reid hopes to sign on at the club as he starts to emerge as a key talent at the Bombers.

Reid is out of contract at the end of this season, having signed a three-year deal midway through his second year at the Bombers.

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Zach Reid (left) and brother Archer catch up after the game between West Coast and Essendon at Optus Stadium in round six, 2025. Picture: AFL Photos
The No.10 pick has played every game this season after four injury interrupted seasons to begin his career at Essendon, but said he was keen to remain in the red and black.

"Yeah that's the plan," Reid told AFL.com.au. "I haven't really started anything yet, but I'm sure that will play out in the next however long."

The 204cm backman has showed his poise and talent to start this season and is an important plank in Brad Scott's plans.

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'Do I have the body for the AFL?': Bomber finds belief after string of false starts
"We're building something internally with an identity, more than personnel, because there's guys coming in and playing the way we want them to. We have to make the most of our capability," Reid said. – Callum Twomey
 
Rowan18 said:
How are you supposed to rebuild if you just use the draft? You get 3 picks in the top 60, that's it. Due to academies and FA pushing out selections, the last place team gets pick 1 (or sometimes pick 2 if a FS or Academy kid is taken at 1), second round pick 19 often moves to mid to late 20s and third round pick 55 is off into the stratosphere.

Even if you achieve a miracle and get best 22 players with all three selections, that's 8 drafts to rebuild a whole team. But the guys you selected in the first year would age out by the team the last selected guys get 3-5 pre-seasons in.

No, a "proper" rebuild has to involve trades and FA or you have no chance to get enough selections in (unless you have a bunch of academy and FS kids).

As others have said, it's about getting a core group of A Graders together and the role players will then appear. If Bont actually said he was coming, then you can guarantee Harley stays for at least 2 years. Then Warner probably decides it would be super fun to play with those boys. Then a bunch of B grade role players probably decide to jump over too (eg Cameron the ruck from Pies). Suddenly we go from the worst midfield to top 4 quality (with young guys like Hewett, Gross etc as great depth).

Hawks did this well in the last two off seasons and they're likely to be around the top 8 for the next several years.
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totally agree
 
Rowan18 said:
How are you supposed to rebuild if you just use the draft? You get 3 picks in the top 60, that's it. Due to academies and FA pushing out selections, the last place team gets pick 1 (or sometimes pick 2 if a FS or Academy kid is taken at 1), second round pick 19 often moves to mid to late 20s and third round pick 55 is off into the stratosphere.

Even if you achieve a miracle and get best 22 players with all three selections, that's 8 drafts to rebuild a whole team. But the guys you selected in the first year would age out by the team the last selected guys get 3-5 pre-seasons in.

No, a "proper" rebuild has to involve trades and FA or you have no chance to get enough selections in (unless you have a bunch of academy and FS kids).

As others have said, it's about getting a core group of A Graders together and the role players will then appear. If Bont actually said he was coming, then you can guarantee Harley stays for at least 2 years. Then Warner probably decides it would be super fun to play with those boys. Then a bunch of B grade role players probably decide to jump over too (eg Cameron the ruck from Pies). Suddenly we go from the worst midfield to top 4 quality (with young guys like Hewett, Gross etc as great depth).

Hawks did this well in the last two off seasons and they're likely to be around the top 8 for the next several years.
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For starters you don't do it over one draft, obviously :shrug:

We're still yet to really hit a proper draft with a healthy rebuild esq draft hand. Barrass departing has enabled that to be this offseason. Thanks to Hawthorns draft hand.

We can also FOR ONCE be the benefit of what is the Free Agency Compo farce. This rarely happens with us, when a "spud" like Allen who is clearly not worth pick 2 can automatically net us compensation far higher in value than the player themselves. We need to absolutely take advantage of this.

Not to throw much shade at Allen, he's middle of his career, injury prone, has kicked 50 goals only once and is in The worst form of his career.

Anyway all of this leads us to finally have a draft warchest to really hit it hard and try to fill some of the MANY gaps on our list. Add in our collection of NGA's coming through and it's even better 👌

"You can't just go to the draft to do a rebuild, evey club has the same amount of picks..." You act like we haven't already commenced our rebuild already. Hewett, Reid, Gross, Ginbey, Shanahan, A.Reid could all be a big part of it, we're already on the way somewhat. A solid offseason hitting the draft and suddenly some of those list holes might actually be filled.

Jury is out on whether it was worth burning pick 2 for Baker/Graham to "raise our floor and stop the floggings" when we're arguably worse this year when we were last year.

What we DON'T want to do is continue being in denial about where our list is at and get seduced into putting a band-aid over our situation by burning quality draft picks that could be long term players for the sake of a short term fix 🚫🚨

Yes, FA is out of the question this year because of Allen leaving doesn't mean that's the case next year. Top it up further. You can still trade and pickup the right players for your list without giving away top picks.

You keep banging on about Warner coming... Why? Why does everyone keep talking about this and entertaining the idea of trading for him to make us more competitive when if we be patient we can add him to our side for the cost of no draft capital?

"Get Bont, trade for Warner and suddenly we've got a top midfield!!!".. yeah sure, for 2 years it's competitive and then what? The rest of the team still sucks. We still don't have our bookends. A solid full back and CHB. Even with Warner and Bont in this hypothetical we still aren't contending for a flag, it's a waste of time as the other pieces aren't there. It's blatantly obvious.

A rebuild is a long mission if you don't have some key pillars in place. Another draft and we might. Sometimes you're in a position to to go the flag push and give away picks, and other times you're not. Take Cockburn for example. They're at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to flag window. They've got loads of young talent and are in the position now to burn picks and add players like Bolton and Pickett. Yes it hasn't worked yet because they're a joke of a club, but list build wise they're doing the right things and makes sense for them. It doesn't for us.
 

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YOUNG GUNS

#NAMEHTSTATE LEAGUE CLUBCOMMUNITY CLUB
6Charlie Rozenes172Sandringham Dragons
Sandringham VFL		Old Collegians
8Sam Toner184Richmond VFLNarre Warren
9Rod Ali186Eastern RangesMitcham
10Jhett Haeata185Sandringham Dragons
Richmond (VFL)		Beaumaris
11Oliver Depaoli-Kubank178Tasmania DevilsUlverstone
12Tom Evans180Bendigo PioneersEchuca
13Coen Ainsworth180Murray BushrangersWodonga Bulldogs
14Hugh White183Northern KnightsDoncaster East
15Adrian Cole197Dandenong Stingrays
North Melbourne VFL		St Bedes/Mentone
16Gus Papal193Calder CannonsAberfeldie
17Zac Walker191Gippsland PowerPhillip Island
18Noah Yze191Oakleigh Chargers
Casey Demons VFL		Old Melburnians
19Charlie Orchard190Dandenong StingraysLangwarrin
20Max Roney186Tasmania Devils
Casey Demons VFL		Cheltenham
21Henry Hayes189Dandenong StingraysRye
22Caleb Lewis196Casey Demons VFLDingley
23Jez Rigoni189Oakleigh Chargers
Sandringham VFL		Wangaratta Rovers
24Seth MacDonald189Eastern Ranges
Richmond VFL		Rowville
25Kobe George188Geelong FalconsBell Park
27Floyd Burmeister199GWV RebelsRedan
28Zac Harding199Murray BushrangersWodonga Bulldogs
29Lucas Impey200Williamstown VFLDarley
35Ayden McCarroll209Western JetsWilliamstown CYMS


Young guns squad for this weekend. Evans, Cole and Burmeister would seem the most likely options for us to keep an eye on for the MSD.
 
Dark Sharks said:
For starters you don't do it over one draft, obviously :shrug:

We're still yet to really hit a proper draft with a healthy rebuild esq draft hand. Barrass departing has enabled that to be this offseason. Thanks to Hawthorns draft hand.

We can also FOR ONCE be the benefit of what is the Free Agency Compo farce. This rarely happens with us, when a "spud" like Allen who is clearly not worth pick 2 can automatically net us compensation far higher in value than the player themselves. We need to absolutely take advantage of this.

Not to throw much shade at Allen, he's middle of his career, injury prone, has kicked 50 goals only once and is in The worst form of his career.

Anyway all of this leads us to finally have a draft warchest to really hit it hard and try to fill some of the MANY gaps on our list. Add in our collection of NGA's coming through and it's even better 👌

"You can't just go to the draft to do a rebuild, evey club has the same amount of picks..." You act like we haven't already commenced our rebuild already. Hewett, Reid, Gross, Ginbey, Shanahan, A.Reid could all be a big part of it, we're already on the way somewhat. A solid offseason hitting the draft and suddenly some of those list holes might actually be filled.

Jury is out on whether it was worth burning pick 2 for Baker/Graham to "raise our floor and stop the floggings" when we're arguably worse this year when we were last year.

What we DON'T want to do is continue being in denial about where our list is at and get seduced into putting a band-aid over our situation by burning quality draft picks that could be long term players for the sake of a short term fix 🚫🚨

Yes, FA is out of the question this year because of Allen leaving doesn't mean that's the case next year. Top it up further. You can still trade and pickup the right players for your list without giving away top picks.

You keep banging on about Warner coming... Why? Why does everyone keep talking about this and entertaining the idea of trading for him to make us more competitive when if we be patient we can add him to our side for the cost of no draft capital?

"Get Bont, trade for Warner and suddenly we've got a top midfield!!!".. yeah sure, for 2 years it's competitive and then what? The rest of the team still sucks. We still don't have our bookends. A solid full back and CHB. Even with Warner and Bont in this hypothetical we still aren't contending for a flag, it's a waste of time as the other pieces aren't there. It's blatantly obvious.

A rebuild is a long mission if you don't have some key pillars in place. Another draft and we might. Sometimes you're in a position to to go the flag push and give away picks, and other times you're not. Take Cockburn for example. They're at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to flag window. They've got loads of young talent and are in the position now to burn picks and add players like Bolton and Pickett. Yes it hasn't worked yet because they're a joke of a club, but list build wise they're doing the right things and makes sense for them. It doesn't for us.
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Dark Sharks said:
For starters you don't do it over one draft, obviously :shrug:

We're still yet to really hit a proper draft with a healthy rebuild esq draft hand. Barrass departing has enabled that to be this offseason. Thanks to Hawthorns draft hand.

We can also FOR ONCE be the benefit of what is the Free Agency Compo farce. This rarely happens with us, when a "spud" like Allen who is clearly not worth pick 2 can automatically net us compensation far higher in value than the player themselves. We need to absolutely take advantage of this.

Not to throw much shade at Allen, he's middle of his career, injury prone, has kicked 50 goals only once and is in The worst form of his career.

Anyway all of this leads us to finally have a draft warchest to really hit it hard and try to fill some of the MANY gaps on our list. Add in our collection of NGA's coming through and it's even better 👌

"You can't just go to the draft to do a rebuild, evey club has the same amount of picks..." You act like we haven't already commenced our rebuild already. Hewett, Reid, Gross, Ginbey, Shanahan, A.Reid could all be a big part of it, we're already on the way somewhat. A solid offseason hitting the draft and suddenly some of those list holes might actually be filled.

Jury is out on whether it was worth burning pick 2 for Baker/Graham to "raise our floor and stop the floggings" when we're arguably worse this year when we were last year.

What we DON'T want to do is continue being in denial about where our list is at and get seduced into putting a band-aid over our situation by burning quality draft picks that could be long term players for the sake of a short term fix 🚫🚨

Yes, FA is out of the question this year because of Allen leaving doesn't mean that's the case next year. Top it up further. You can still trade and pickup the right players for your list without giving away top picks.

You keep banging on about Warner coming... Why? Why does everyone keep talking about this and entertaining the idea of trading for him to make us more competitive when if we be patient we can add him to our side for the cost of no draft capital?

"Get Bont, trade for Warner and suddenly we've got a top midfield!!!".. yeah sure, for 2 years it's competitive and then what? The rest of the team still sucks. We still don't have our bookends. A solid full back and CHB. Even with Warner and Bont in this hypothetical we still aren't contending for a flag, it's a waste of time as the other pieces aren't there. It's blatantly obvious.

A rebuild is a long mission if you don't have some key pillars in place. Another draft and we might. Sometimes you're in a position to to go the flag push and give away picks, and other times you're not. Take Cockburn for example. They're at the opposite end of the spectrum when it comes to flag window. They've got loads of young talent and are in the position now to burn picks and add players like Bolton and Pickett. Yes it hasn't worked yet because they're a joke of a club, but list build wise they're doing the right things and makes sense for them. It doesn't for us.
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I think we can all agree our midfield is well below standard and in need of more talent through draft and trade.

So with your strategy that WC don't have their bookends, FB & CHB and we are in a position this year to draft/trade if OA goes, who are your players you would be drafting/trading in to fill this hole?

Drafting is the same tool as FA and trade, they should all be used in conjunction to build a list that is not exclusively 18-22yo kids finding their feet and getting belted.

The middle part of the WC list is average, 23-26yo and senior leaders on field are very few and far between.
This need addressing also and the leaders and older players are 2 years away from not being there imo.
 
eaglevision said:
YOUNG GUNS

#NAMEHTSTATE LEAGUE CLUBCOMMUNITY CLUB
6Charlie Rozenes172Sandringham Dragons
Sandringham VFL		Old Collegians
8Sam Toner184Richmond VFLNarre Warren
9Rod Ali186Eastern RangesMitcham
10Jhett Haeata185Sandringham Dragons
Richmond (VFL)		Beaumaris
11Oliver Depaoli-Kubank178Tasmania DevilsUlverstone
12Tom Evans180Bendigo PioneersEchuca
13Coen Ainsworth180Murray BushrangersWodonga Bulldogs
14Hugh White183Northern KnightsDoncaster East
15Adrian Cole197Dandenong Stingrays
North Melbourne VFL		St Bedes/Mentone
16Gus Papal193Calder CannonsAberfeldie
17Zac Walker191Gippsland PowerPhillip Island
18Noah Yze191Oakleigh Chargers
Casey Demons VFL		Old Melburnians
19Charlie Orchard190Dandenong StingraysLangwarrin
20Max Roney186Tasmania Devils
Casey Demons VFL		Cheltenham
21Henry Hayes189Dandenong StingraysRye
22Caleb Lewis196Casey Demons VFLDingley
23Jez Rigoni189Oakleigh Chargers
Sandringham VFL		Wangaratta Rovers
24Seth MacDonald189Eastern Ranges
Richmond VFL		Rowville
25Kobe George188Geelong FalconsBell Park
27Floyd Burmeister199GWV RebelsRedan
28Zac Harding199Murray BushrangersWodonga Bulldogs
29Lucas Impey200Williamstown VFLDarley
35Ayden McCarroll209Western JetsWilliamstown CYMS


Young guns squad for this weekend. Evans, Cole and Burmeister would seem the most likely options for us to keep an eye on for the MSD.
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Cole is an interesting one. I didn't pay much attention as he was a Saints NGA last year so didn't think he was an option.

Is he stronger defensively or offensively?
 
Dark Sharks said:
For starters you don't do it over one draft, obviously :shrug:

We're still yet to really hit a proper draft with a healthy rebuild esq draft hand.
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We had four picks inside 30 in 2022?
 
eaglesnutcase said:
We have HD,Hewett,Gross,Hutch, Hall,HJ TK so don’t think we are screaming for mids.
We are screaming for getting games into them and screaming for a quality ruckman.
Certainly another quality mid or two would be nice for rotations but we aren’t exactly the pits.
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Go look at the list of any other team and they have double that number of "mids" on the list. We lack quantity and quality. Another one at the msd essential.
 

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We_The_West said:
Cole is an interesting one. I didn't pay much attention as he was a Saints NGA last year so didn't think he was an option.

Is he stronger defensively or offensively?
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Very much defensively. If saints hadn’t turned their top picks into a new half back line of Tauru, Travaglia and Barrat he would have been a really good Cat B option for them. Personally I think they should have taken a pure midfielder instead of Tauru and taken Cole for free instead. Crazy list management.

197cm is a good size (he’s grown 3cm), is an accountable 1 vs 1 defender and is powerful enough to play on talls and mediums.

Wouldn’t be disappointed if we took him but looking forward to seeing him in the young guns game where he’d want to stand out against a pretty weak vic metro forward line.
 
Miguel Sanchez said:
We had four picks inside 30 in 2022?
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Fair enough but 1 of them is gone already another is a clear dud and delist fodder, the other 2 I've mentioned earlier?

It's a moving target. The assessment of your list is always changing with how players develop isn't it. Not just about the numbers.

We also have our first rounder from 2021 who by rights should be hitting a nice sweet spot in his career, yet AFL for him is likely over and he's a fair chance to be delisted as well. Had this player come on for example, that hole in the list wouldn't still be there to be filled.

My point is I consider this year, with our haul, to be one we should have a clear focus on the draft. Stockpiling top end talent before tassy gets in.
 
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