List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[RanaNaved]

What's Travagalia's expected draft range?

1-70 imo

 

[Biggie]

Not much in that set of stats that puts Kosi anywhere near Bolton.

Disagree.

 

[RanaNaved]

As much as I would love Harley to sign on, I'd love Archer to sign on almost as much. He could be a pretty special KF imo.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I'm guessing that Cripps retirement rumor was a bunch of crap after all. Social media pages would've been all over it by now and the club would've announced something already.

 

[JackOutback]

am i crazy not to want anyone unless they come very cheap? seems stupid to be shipping blokes off for draft capital only to be used in trading other blokes in. we need as many cracks at the top 20/30 as possible.

Maybe just a little. If you want quality, you have to pay for it, so often what comes cheap isn't of the highest quality. And while you may say let's keep pic 12 instead of shipping it off for a quality player in the hopes they become a gun, something like a third to half the draft picks each year don't become quality AFL players. So it's a balancing act, if the age and quality is right, it's sometimes worth paying. Warner and Pickett would be two that probably fall into that category. But we need to keep the highest end pick.

 

[WCE_phil]

He played both academy games vs Dogs and Coburg, good in both games.

I've been worried about Langford for pace, not agility though! I think over a 20m sprint he could well be slow, but his first 5 metres look quick, he has a good burst away from stoppage but he's probably one who is quick for first 10 and average next 10. Where most would hit top speed in the second 10m, so I'm less concerned and if we're interested hopefully we can test the first 5m and 10m. His laterally movement and agility actually looks very good, I think that combined with his 5m burst is how he breaks clear in stoppages.

Lalor I think will be quick and test quick, maybe less so for agility. Time will tell, but he's a explosive player.

Langford isn't quick of body, he's quick of mind it's why his first few steps look fast while guys like Ginbey or Chesser have a slow first few steps imo.

His 20m time earlier in the year was 3.2 however whilst not there I was told he stumbled the first step. Has a low max speed but a solid cruising speed.

His agility is actually quite good.

People should not be surprised if he all things stay as they are now that he's a top 3 pick.

Lalor is nowhere near even top tier Coates league fitness atm let alone AFL fitness so that will have a bearing and if drafted he will need a couple of years. He has a huge ceiling but is also a chance of being a bust as a mid.

 

[WCE_phil]

Has anyone been a regular watcher of our WAFL team, keen to know how you think Rawlinson and Livingstone have gone through the year?

I had them as both delists, as none of their wafl stats are that impressive and didn't think they were draft worthy last year. So I'm a tad surprised to see them both get another year.

I have. Not as much as I watch another side. Livingstone imo is worth another year particularly as he is cat B. Rawlinson outside of defensive pressure has no AFL quality attributes and struggles to kick more than 40m on the run. He's also a bit of a butcher.

 

[Hook461123]

Langford isn't quick of body, he's quick of mind it's why his first few steps look fast while guys like Ginbey or Chesser have a slow first few steps imo.

His 20m time earlier in the year was 3.2 however whilst not there I was told he stumbled the first step. Has a low max speed but a solid cruising speed.

His agility is actually quite good.

People should not be surprised if he all things stay as they are now that he's a top 3 pick.

Lalor is nowhere near even top tier Coates league fitness atm let alone AFL fitness so that will have a bearing and if drafted he will need a couple of years. He has a huge ceiling but is also a chance of being a bust as a mid.

What about his kicking though? Can be a bit of an awkward looking drop. Does some great bullet passes where he stabs at it though

 

[WCE_phil]

Good point RE Livingstone being Cat B and not many options to come into a Cat B spot. Oversight on my behalf.
Is our other cat B currently Baker? I have a feeling Dewar was lifted off it, which allowed Coen to come onto it.

Surely with Rawlinson, we hold a decision until post draft and see what falls to us in the rookie draft. List lodgment is post draft. Feels like some solid options could be there this year.

Dewar is Cat b and Baker was elevated. So imo Baker is gone.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

I tell you what, if all we manage to do with the Barrass trade is flip him for an average, slightly too old Richmond midfielder there's going to be some epic melts on here.

Get over it !! It’s not gunna happen.

 

[BeornJ]

I keep thinking that people are calling others 'pieces of sh#t' with all this FOS business.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

With all this angst over Baker and his cost in draft terms;surely we have to take into account that we will/should get a p/p?. That is what we will trade for Baker.
Nesbit said we wouldn’t apply for one.Well he’s outta here and hopefully the new regime will demand one.
Baker May actually cost us buggar all! Here’s hoping!

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

With all this angst over Baker and his cost in draft terms;surely we have to take into account that we will/should get a p/p?. That is what we will trade for Baker.
Nesbit said we wouldn’t apply for one.Well he’s outta here and hopefully the new regime will demand one.
Baker May actually cost us buggar all! Here’s hoping!

You’re absolutely dreaming and naive if you think the VFL will hand us much needed draft assistance…

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Any chance that Sheed will get delisted a year early? He's played 24 games in the last three years.

 

[eaglevision]

Any chance that Sheed will get delisted a year early? He's played 24 games in the last three years.

Possibly medically. He had surgery in Melbourne so the decision making pathway for that will be a little different to usual.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Langford isn't quick of body, he's quick of mind it's why his first few steps look fast while guys like Ginbey or Chesser have a slow first few steps imo.

His 20m time earlier in the year was 3.2 however whilst not there I was told he stumbled the first step. Has a low max speed but a solid cruising speed.

His agility is actually quite good.

People should not be surprised if he all things stay as they are now that he's a top 3 pick.

Lalor is nowhere near even top tier Coates league fitness atm let alone AFL fitness so that will have a bearing and if drafted he will need a couple of years. He has a huge ceiling but is also a chance of being a bust as a mid.

Do you have any insights to Lalors application or are you too removed from that side of the draft this year?

 

[Keys]

Any chance that Sheed will get delisted a year early? He's played 24 games in the last three years.

There’s a chance

Had further surgery on his foot earlier this month in a bid to get it right for 2025. If that doesn’t work then maybe he doesn’t play on - we probably don’t know before trade period how he’s recovering but might have an idea before the draft as it will have been 3 months

Think it’s more likely he’s retained with a possibility that he retires early if it doesn’t improve

Personally think we should be considering retiring him especially since list spots are tightening up - I’d rather we give Trew another year for example

Graham, if he signs on with us, can replace Sheed’s role

 

[mattyc75]

Sheed adds nothing to the seniors or beagles. Lazy, finger pointing, no defensive game whatsoever. He's actually more of a liability in the wafl where he should be teaching the youngsters good habits. Pay him out.. pay him double..who cares

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[Boohemian]

Does Sheed currently have a role though?

Has played bugger all games over the last three or so years and hasn't contributed when he's been in.

 

[TerryFilk]

Hopefully this is nothing, but people are saying Reid met with Rosa (Essendon’s list manager).

Could be someone just starting rumours of course.

 

[bzparkes]

Hopefully this is nothing, but people are saying Reid met with Rosa (Essendon’s list manager).

Could be someone just starting rumours of course.

Lol, where's Matt Rosa?

And does anyone honestly think he'd meet him without his manager?

 

[Big_Tony]

Think Graham will be an underrated get this off season if that goes ahead. Our midfield mix just isn't right. All of Kelly, Yeo, Reid are attacking mids. A defence - first role player who can tackle could really balance us out. Still clearly need to work on team defence regardless.

 

[TerryFilk]

Lol, where's Matt Rosa?

And does anyone honestly think he'd meet him without his manager?

They said he met Matt Rosa after the cafe with his mate lol.

It’s most likely made up.

 

[Grahame]

Hopefully this is nothing, but people are saying Reid met with Rosa (Essendon’s list manager).

Could be someone just starting rumours of course.

Wonder how long Rosa had to wait around the corner before he ‘accidentally’ bumped into Harley?

What’s John Kizon up to now? Maybe he trails Harley everywhere to discourage things like this. I believe he successfully kept list managers away from Cuzz and Gardiner.

 

[bzparkes]

They said he met Matt Rosa after the cafe with his mate lol.

It’s most likely made up.

He may very well have bumped into him, he'd know every list manager in the country from the lead up to the draft last year.

If he was 'meeting' him, he'd have done it inside the cafe, not catch up with a mate then bump into a list manager.

Fake AF.