List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted


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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



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Few saints posters had a crack at a 3 team trade based off the Rhino tweet from yesterday.

SAINTS give: 8, F1, 27
SAINTS get: 3, 18, 51, Eagles F3

RICHMOND give: Baker, 18, 51
RICHMOND get: Saints F1, 27

EAGLES give: 3, F3
EAGLES get: 8, Baker

Points wise it works out (rates Baker at pick 10)

Your F3 can go to Richmond if need be.
I wouldn’t swap 3 for 6 and Baker, let alone that.
 

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Hey BOND 007 or WCE_phil

Just want to understand a very simple issue

What is it with Clarke and his fixation on Baker.

The current AFL media and entourage seem to be on the ban wagon that Baker is worth the same as Barrass.

Let me recap this scenario


Baker is an out of contract, very good team player though undersized Jack of All Trades who is not elite at anything but being a decent guy who supported the Eagles as a kid and brought his mate over as a FA.

v's

Barrass has 3 years to run on a LT contract and recognised as one of the best 10 KPD in the competition with the industry realising in recent years just how valuable they are to a team


A trade of Barrass trade for a F1 and a F2 for a F3 going back is adequate but not with a great premium. This trade is not really the issue. The problem is that Clarke is so fixated on Baker that he is likely to pass on the F1 for Baker.

I am just hoping that Baker and Bolton end up at Fremantle. Whilst I would like to add Baker, Clarke’s fixation and green behind the ears approach to trades appears to be scuppering our draft position.

I am happy to take input or a clear rational reason but as it stands today, we on the outer are confused and angry.

PM me if you can arrange a link up with Matty if he is open to input

I can help explain this.
Please read the 111 pages on the Richmond board why Clarke is fixated on Baker.
 
Whitfield and Hodge are different players. In hindsight, you'd take Hodge at 1 nearly every time. But he was drafted as a ball winning mid. Whitfield was also drafted as a mid. In hindsight, you'd take him high. But without knowing what he'd become, he's an outsider. Don't spend top 10 picks on outsiders. if you do, you'll lose more than you win.

What pick would you be happy to use to draft a James Hird?

Toby Green?

Peter Matera?

None of them are inside players.

Would a top 10 pick be a waste on "outside" types those?
 
I didn’t say Clarke wouldn’t trade 3 for 6 and Baker, I said I wouldn’t trade 3 for 6 and Baker so that’s irrelevant.
I’d argue what you want is irrelevant and what was put infront of you is very fair.

If that’s your mindset - your going to be disappointed either way by COB Wednesday.
 
I’d argue what you want is irrelevant and what was put infront of you is very fair.

If that’s your mindset - your going to be disappointed either way by COB Wednesday.
What a stupid comment when the purpose of this exercise is for posters to discuss their opinions.
 

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