List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Bender_]

I've got to say that Matt Clarke looks and sounds maybe overworked...and disinterested..

In a thread full of terrible opinions on a board currently crammed tight with terrible takes, this one is up there with one of the stinkiest comments I've read lately.

 

[WestCoast05]

By gifting Richmond a better pick? Not sure how that benefits us in any way, considering WCE and Richmond would've mostly discussed what Baker's worth is.

The benefit would be that they understand we are generating them a better pick for Graham on the proviso that we pay less in picks for Baker.

So basically we are swapping cap space for better draft picks.

 

[Elite Pete]

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Finn O’Sullivan once again saying he’d enjoy heading West

Sounds like he almost wants to go West. Can’t see him being there at 3 even if we don’t split.

 

[eaglespremiers]

What about this trade:

West Coast give Barrass, F2nd
West Coast get Pick 8, Hawthorn's F2nd

Hawthorn give pick 14, F2nd
Hawthorn get Barrass

St Kilda give pick 8, promise not to take Travaglia at pick 7
St Kilda get pick 14, West Coast F2nd

Would that work?

 

[dinnaz]

If we don’t toughen up immediately we will get shafted on the Barrass trade and then shafted again the other way on the Baker trade.

TBH I hope Freo don't get shafted either (for Bolton)
Sets a bad precedent

 

[THE A5]

Honestly I want us to get Baker for the sole reason that it would make WA footy mad lose their mind in rage.

They need to get rid of WA footy out of their username

 

[WAFClatfd]

TBH I hope Freo don't get shafted either (for Bolton)
Sets a bad precedent

I hope they get absolutely reamed. Unfortunately I am pretty sure they won't.

 

[stallon]

I guess because at 19 you've entered the 2nd tier of talent

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third tier really

 

[Farang83150]

In a thread full of terrible opinions on a board currently crammed tight with terrible takes, this one is up there with one of the stinkiest comments I've read lately.

Along with saying the below ....

"Just tell them that as he's uncontracted and that in the end the preseason draft is an option".

 

[stallon]

TBH I hope Freo don't get shafted either (for Bolton)
Sets a bad precedent

I hope Richmond get shafted on every deal.
GC offer 20 for Rioli, Freo offer pick 18 for Bolton, and we offer pick 61 for Baker

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I guess because at 19 you've entered the 2nd tier of talent

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If we had to trade pick 14 though that’s the option to take. Idea of trading pick 14 for Baker plus 26 is absurd . Sydney can do us better is what I’m saying

 

[bzparkes]

The benefit would be that they understand we are generating them a better pick for Graham on the proviso that we pay less in picks for Baker.

So basically we are swapping cap space for better draft picks.

Reckon we would've if we could've. Seems either the AFL, or Richmond, have other ideas.

 

[Bacchus]

What about this trade:

West Coast give Barrass, F2nd
West Coast get Pick 8, Hawthorn's F2nd

Hawthorn give pick 14, F2nd
Hawthorn get Barrass

St Kilda give pick 8, promise not to take Travaglia at pick 7
St Kilda get pick 14, West Coast F2nd

Would that work?

Not for St Kilda.

 

[footy_basis]

But IMHO now that we've landed Graham we shouldnt want Baker.

We've got our 26 y.o Tigers mid. With Kelly and Yeo rotating through the middle we shouldnt need another unless they're absolute top shelf.

This baker nonsense wouldn't have occurred under the previous wce managment. They got the kelly one very badly wrong but other than that, they were reasonable at the trade table. They didn't overpay for spuds.

Simpson tried to bring in some north players when he first took over, but again, there was no overpaying. This is almost like the wce, ex-richmond managers now overpaying for receiving good reference checks. The baker trade just needs to fall over and the entirety of wa would be pleased.

 

[Bender_]

This baker nonsense wouldn't have occurred under the previous wce managment. They got the kelly one very badly wrong but other than that, they were reasonable at the trade table. They didn't overpay for spuds.

Simpson tried to bring in some north players when he first took over, but again, there was no overpaying. This is almost like the wce, ex-richmond managers now overpaying for receiving good reference checks. The baker trade just needs to fall over and the entirety of wa would be pleased.

Let's just pretend for a moment that there truly is a hidden agenda by Clarke to turn the Eagles into the West Coast Tigers. He's somehow managed to wangle McQualter into a head coaching role that was presided over by an external consultancy firm, now he's gone to step 2 in his master plan and started throwing away draft picks on Tiger "spuds" to finally bring the mighty West Coast to its knees?

Jokes aside, it's more likely that both Clarke and McQualter are recognising holes in our list and using their knowledge of available players they have had previous involvement with and are targeting guys that will walk into our best 22 and will set a high standard of training and game performance that we desperately need.

For the record I'd probably vomit in my throat a little if we did a straight swap of Barrass for Baker, but everyone who's not a fan of the price we could pay for Baker at least needs to acknowledge that he's a good player that will make us a better team.

 

[footy_basis]

In a thread full of terrible opinions on a board currently crammed tight with terrible takes, this one is up there with one of the stinkiest comments I've read lately.

Well he sure isn't doing a good job selling himself to the wce fans.

 

[footy_basis]

Let's just pretend for a moment that there truly is a hidden agenda by Clarke to turn the Eagles into the West Coast Tigers. He's somehow managed to wangle McQualter into a head coaching role that was presided over by an external consultancy firm, now he's gone to step 2 in his master plan and started throwing away draft picks on Tiger "spuds" to finally bring the mighty West Coast to its knees?

Jokes aside, it's more likely that both Clarke and McQualter are recognising holes in our list and using their knowledge of available players they have had previous involvement with and are targeting guys that will walk into our best 22 and will set a high standard of training and game performance that we desperately need.

For the record I'd probably vomit in my throat a little if we did a straight swap of Barrass for Baker, but everyone who's not a fan of the price we could pay for Baker at least needs to acknowledge that he's a good player that will make us a better team.

I think they just need to read the room a little and let this trade go. Wait until he is a free agent and bring him in. Wce fans have had enough of trade that go sour. Trading down from pick 3 or giving up pick 14 is just too much draft capital

 

[eaglespremiers]

Not for St Kilda.

That'd be pick 8 for pick 14 and a pick likely to be about pick 20.
Is pick 8 worth more than that?

 

[mat11]

If we had to trade pick 14 though that’s the option to take. Idea of trading pick 14 for Baker plus 26 is absurd . Sydney can do us better is what I’m saying

Thats fair enough, I'm hoping we are trading 14 and what else we get from Hawks back into the top 8 somehow for a real high end talent and use an f2 on baker

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[PremiershipNo4]

Have a great night!

 

[eaglevision]

That'd be pick 8 for pick 14 and a pick likely to be about pick 20.
Is pick 8 worth more than that?

This year yes. Travaglia/top end mid vs Lindsay/Berry/Allan and F20.

You know Tobie better than anyone on here. Would you trade our F1 to Richmond for 6 (Travaglia) and Baker?

3-FOS
6-Travaglia
14-Lindsay
26-O’Farrell/Mraz*

 

[Bender_]

I think they just need to read the room a little and let this trade go. Wait until he is a free agent and bring him in. Wce fans have had enough of trade that go sour. Trading down from pick 3 or giving up pick 14 is just too much draft capital

What room though? The people on here that didn't want [insert coaching candidate] because of [insert vibe/physical feature/trivial reasoning]? I'm serious, where else is there rumblings about Baker that I can access publicly that the club is also accessing coz they care about Joe Schmo's thoughts on list management?

 

[Bacchus]

That'd be pick 8 for pick 14 and a pick likely to be about pick 20.
Is pick 8 worth more than that?

I read your post quickly and thought you were suggesting Hawthorn’s f2.

But even if it was ours pick 14 and particularly pick 20 or so would blow out a lot so it’s not an especially attractive proposition, I doubt that they would do it.

The draft system has become hopelessly corrupted.

 

[rebel23]

In a thread full of terrible opinions on a board currently crammed tight with terrible takes, this one is up there with one of the stinkiest comments I've read lately.

Not as stinky as when we get reamed on from both ends with Barrass and Baker i would assume bender?... Because Clarke doesn't drive a hard enough bargain

I guess probably you'd be ok with it though...

MEGA

 

[EagleMan87]

Not as stinky as when we get reamed on from both ends with Barrass and Baker i would assume bender?... Because Clarke doesn't drive a hard enough bargain

I guess probably you'd be ok with it though...

MEGA

How about you at least wait for something to happen before you melt down over it?