List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Elite Pete]

If the BODEs get Smith and Oliver for a bag of chips then the whole AFL needs to fold.

See if the VFL put a restriction on them like they did the Swans after getting Buddy

 

[RanaNaved]

Nah good on Geelong. I don't like them, but they see value in so many player's other clubs are scared to touch

 

[InTheWings]

If Joe Daniher retires, will Brisbane need a new forward/ruck who likes missing set shots? Bailey Williams, come on down…


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Or... Bailey to Sydney as part of the Warner trade.

 

[Goomba1973]

I don't understand why the PSD is not a genuine threat from us while we're at the bottom? Pay unders for Baker or walk him to the draft. Like Pyke said earlier in the year, we need to use all avenues available to us to improve our list.
Richmond won't take Baker at #1 ahead of us because of the fallout it would have with the AFLPA, let alone the message it would send to the rest of their list about how the club values them.

Exactly.....or find himself at north on a rookie contract.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Exactly.....or find himself at north on a rookie contract.

Well, no, players can nominate their salary so if he goes to North it wouldn't be on rookie wages.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Unless something changes between now and the first day of trade week the deal is still 13 for Baker and 21. It’s a shit deal and pretty disappointing.

And Geelong will get Bailey Smith for pick 15. This shit is foul, I hate how willing our club's been to get bent over come trade period. It's disheartening.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

I don't understand why the PSD is not a genuine threat from us while we're at the bottom? Pay unders for Baker or walk him to the draft. Like Pyke said earlier in the year, we need to use all avenues available to us to improve our list.
Richmond won't take Baker at #1 ahead of us because of the fallout it would have with the AFLPA, let alone the message it would send to the rest of their list about how the club values them.

It's because all the clubs are in cahoots with each other to scratch each others backs so when academy and father/son bids come around they're not encourage to cuck one another in the bidding/draft process. Everyone's mates with each other...except when it comes to the Eagles, they'll reams us good and proper always.

 

[Barrybran]

Unless something changes between now and the first day of trade week the deal is still 13 for Baker and 21. It’s a shit deal and pretty disappointing.

Value wise, it's fantastic. I just struggle to understand why we would make the move as it means we don't value anyone in that range.

 

[ghostbat12]

It's because all the clubs are in cahoots with each other to scratch each others backs so when academy and father/son bids come around they're not encourage to cuck one another in the bidding/draft process. Everyone's mates with each other...except when it comes to the Eagles, they'll reams us good and proper always.

That may be so but I need to see what open warfare looks like between clubs for context. This will help in forming my opinion on best way forward.

About to see it between dogs and BODE. Tell ya, lucky Geelong don’t have FS/NGAs.

 

[Elite Pete]

We don’t know how the trade is tracking but Bell and Pyke would. If it’s tracking like a straight swap of Baker for 13 the decision needs to be taken out of Clarke hands due to a conflict of interest. It is worrying that not too long ago Cal and co were saying 13s was overs and now it’s seems like it’s about right. Plus they have said they would expect the Eagles to get more then TB for Baker but now seems the narrative.

Tigers likely to have 1, 6, 9, 18, 21 and 29

We will likely have 3, 13, 23, and maybe 30.

Plenty of picks to sort out a few pick swaps happening to even that trade out.

 

[Convocation]

That would be very silly and unnecessary.

Pick 23 or walk him to the PSD. They're welcome to take him again there if they wish to be so bold.

After it drifts 23 may be considered slight unders, but he's an uncontracted player. It's what they should be expecting.

100%. It’s what we know Geelong would do and get!

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I think we're about due for some kent to make a BEDWETTING accusation!

 

[BartBart]

Max Rohr Claremont / WA 18s ruckman ...playing Claremont reserves has been invited to the WA State combine .
Wonder where the interest is from ...

Freo & Melbourne

 

[shooshka]

We don’t know what the trade is tracking like but Bell and Pyke would. If it’s tracking like a straight swap of Baker for 13 the decision needs to be taken out of Clarke hands due to a conflict of interest. It is worrying that not too long ago Cal and co were saying 13s was overs and now it’s seems like it’s about right and TB for Baker eagles wouldn’t do that but now seems the narrative.

Tigers likely to have 1, 6, 9, 18, 21 and 29

We will likely have 3, 13, 23, and maybe 30.

Plenty of picks to sort out a few pick swaps happening to even that trade out.

I wonder if 13-18 and 23-29 slides/upgrades (both) for Baker would be palatable.

Is slightly better than 13-21 (plus 18 is a first round selection which always helps with future year’s trading), but then 23 is pushed back 6 spots.

Tigers probably want an additional pick rather than 2x small/medium upgrades, but it may be the best of both worlds for the clubs.


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[ROYAL EAGLE]

Do we still think we try for a player for Barrass?
I know it was mentioned before, and a guy like Serong who wont get a game at the Hawks would fill a need.

No just trust the draft
Its not the year for getting a lot of players that cant get a game in the best 22 in there club
Maybe one then hit the draft for the rest
Just too good a draft this one to lose picks in
Also there is some really good CHB in this draft

 

[stallon]

Value wise, it's fantastic. I just struggle to understand why we would make the move as it means we don't value anyone in that range.

Could just be a case that the recruiters see 13 and 21 as very similar in ability, and it keeps a 3rd pick in the top 30

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

This, id swap 3 for Richmond F1

Will give us 1, 4 and 14 next year

Draft Sharp and send 4 to Sydney for Warner

I would prefer Freddy Rodriguez over Sharp

 

[eaglevision]

And Geelong will get Bailey Smith for pick 15. This shit is foul, I hate how willing our club's been to get bent over come trade period. It's disheartening.

I think they will get Clarry for unders but I reckon Sam Power and the Dogs will push back massively if their best offer for Baz is pick 15. They’ve already asked the AFL to audit the Cotton On payments Baz was getting during his contract with the Dogs.

Going to go down to the last day or not at all I reckon.

 

[bzparkes]

I think we're about due for some kent to make a BEDWETTING accusation!

Can't, we're already drowning in all the piss here

 

[stallon]

No just trust the draft
Its not the year for getting a lot of players that cant get a game in the best 22 in there club
Maybe one then hit the draft for the rest
Just too good a draft this one to lose picks in
Also there is some really good CHB in this draft

Im thinking we could ask for Blanck or Serong back for Barrass(both ready made and ready for AFL), skip drafting a KPD this year, then look at Curtin next year as an option as a KPD. Something like that.

Probably not tho

 

[eaglevision]

Value wise, it's fantastic. I just struggle to understand why we would make the move as it means we don't value anyone in that range.

Could just be a case that the recruiters see 13 and 21 as very similar in ability, and it keeps a 3rd pick in the top 30

Personally if Lindsay, Travaglia and Berry are gone I’d be more ok with it but I think at least one of Lindsay and Berry will be there and it’s going to give me the absolute shits.

Pick 13 is the last pick (excluding NGA/FS) before the talent drops off to the next level IMO. It’s why clubs are going so hard at GCS pick 12 and unfortunately at this stage we’re seemingly too stupid to realise the same applies to pick 13. It’s hugely valuable and a drop to 21 should not be trivialised as an “8 pick slide”.

 

[Mop]

Can't, we're already drowning in all the piss here

Not as much as Richmond’s prez last night though, amiright?

 

[BartBart]

Geelong are asking for Oliver and pick 5 for a third rounder. Hope Melbourne turn around and say …

I hear Clayton Oliver will change his name to Whiskas for a week and as a result get transferred to Geelong as a father/son for a pick in the 40s.

 

[Kegs15]

All I hear from Crows supporters is that hes shit and they want to replace him. They even dropped him this year to give Strachan a go.
If Flynn cant stay healthy this year and we cant get anything else sure id have a look, but not overly excited

Yeah I agree regarding O'Brien, would even go further and say I probably wouldn't have a look.

He'd probably do ok for us for a few years but I'd rather not just be pushing our ruck dilemma back until we're contending. Would prefer to trade in a Knobel type who we'd be copping a performance deficit for 1-3 years compared to O'Brien but could actually be an effective #1 ruck when the rest of our team is coming on also.

Or he doesn't work out and we're in the same position in a few years that we would be with O'Brien anyway. Better to actually have a crack at someone who'll be a long term option for us, and stick with BWilliams/Flynn until we find that player IMO.

Very different position as a club to when we were contending, had quality rucks already and it made sense to trade in a Giles type.

 

[Hook461123]

Personally if Lindsay, Travaglia and Berry are gone I’d be more ok with it but I think at least one of Lindsay and Berry will be there and it’s going to give me the absolute shits.

Pick 13 is the last pick (excluding NGA/FS) before the talent drops off to the next level IMO. It’s why clubs are going so hard at GCS pick 12 and unfortunately at this stage we’re seemingly too stupid to realise the same applies to pick 13. It’s hugely valuable and a drop to 21 should not be trivialised as an “8 pick slide”.

It’s going to be more than 8 picks. Will have the Kako and Marshall bids and the compensation picks for Battle, Perryman and Cummings between them. So will probably end up being a 13 pick difference.