Brad Lloyd - Head of Football

[JJBagger]

Agree. My main concern all along, how is he still around?
Diesel (Director of Football) needs to answer this question.

I think it was found in the review that Liddle was making football department decisions and interfering with Lloyd’s job. So they gave him the benefit of the doubt, and kept him on. But yes, probably should’ve gone a few years ago

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

 

[branedotorg]

 

[Red Bull]

 

[Beyond Blue]

If the club has a backbone he’ll be frog marched out on Monday. Complete and utter failure in his role.

 

[RPCB]

If the club has a backbone he’ll be frog marched out on Monday. Complete and utter failure in his role.

Nick Austin should follow him out the door. He is responsible for putting most of this list together.

 

[Stormzy]

Before they even talk about sacking Voss, this bloke needs to be given his marching orders now.

 

[carlton_99]

If the club has a backbone he’ll be frog marched out on Monday. Complete and utter failure in his role.

And he should take the line coaches with him tbh. Should have happened last year

 

[RPCB]

And he should take the line coaches with him tbh. Should have happened last year

We are the club that had John Barker as a line coach for 10 years. Jordan Russell and Aaron Hamill might start getting stale in about 6 years.

 

[carlton_99]

We are the club that had John Barker as a line coach for 10 years. Jordan Russell and Aaron Hamill might starting getting stale in about 6 years.

I've got my eye on Tim Clark more than anyone. I think the midfield has been our biggest issue the since the start of 2024. Not seeing any adjustments from him to rectify very clear problems with how we set up at stoppage.

It's why I feel for Voss - not only has he had to coach with one arm behind his back with all the injuries in his tenure but the team around him in the coaches box and football department isn't good enough.

 

[BlueBlood15]

We are the club that had John Barker as a line coach for 10 years. Jordan Russell and Aaron Hamill might starting getting stale in about 6 years.

Hamill was the John Barker of St Kilda’s coaching group before he joined us. 10 years of service during a woeful time for the club 2012 - 2021. The supporters wanted him out. No other club would have picked him up but us. Time for Wright to fix this joint up.

 

[Abers]

Describing Brad as a thief is being kind.

 

[BlueBlood15]

Can’t stress the importance of getting Lloyd out the door over the coming weeks and certainly before the bye. There are massive calls to be made on coaches and the list management team and Lloyd cannot be anywhere near these decisions. He’s had 7 years of missteps. Time is up. Hand the keys to the football department to Wright ASAP so we can start to move forward as a club.

 

[KoutaGnome]

I've got my eye on Tim Clark more than anyone. I think the midfield has been our biggest issue the since the start of 2024. Not seeing any adjustments from him to rectify very clear problems with how we set up at stoppage.

It's why I feel for Voss - not only has he had to coach with one arm behind his back with all the injuries in his tenure but the team around him in the coaches box and football department isn't good enough.

Just checked Blueseum website for stats. Specifically for coaching roles.
Voss hired in September 2021.
According to Blueseum, Aaron Hamill, Ashley Hansen, Tim Clarke & Luke Power all hired for 2022 as assistant coaches.
Hamill, Hansen & Clarke were all new appointments.
ONLY Power a leftover from previous Blues coaching lineup. Has been at club since 2020. Started as Nth Blues VFL coach.

According to Blueseum, not 1 new line coach was hired during 2023.
2023 - Tom Longergan - starts as Development & Talent Manager (newly created role)
2023 - Brad Ebert - starts as Development Coach
2024 - Jordan Russell - starts as Forward Lines coach
2024 - Ashley Hansen - becomes Senior Assistant Coach
2024 - Aaron Greaves - starts as Coaching and Performance Manager (help development of coaching group)
2024 - Torin Baker - starts as Development Coach (former Carlton College of Sport & Academy coach)

So, if above is correct, aside from Luke Power, Torin Baker and Kreuzer (ruck coach), pretty much all of the above names have been hired SINCE Voss became senior coach. I'm assuming he's had a huge say in their hiring.

Not having a go carlton_99.
IMO, Voss has a lot to answer for re. many of these coaching appt's under his 'leadership'.
IMO, he's attracted the calibre of assistants he has, due to his limitations as a coach. His lack of tactical, or strategic nous. His inability to innovate or adapt to a more dynamic game style.
Think most ambitious assistant coaches understandably would be looking elsewhere to advance their career.

 

[Doro]

Generally, having 100k members goes hand in hand with having the pick of staff and best football department around. We missed that memo.

 

[jpfalvo]

Just checked Blueseum website for stats. Specifically for coaching roles.
Voss hired in September 2021.
According to Blueseum, Aaron Hamill, Ashley Hansen, Tim Clarke & Luke Power all hired for 2022 as assistant coaches.
Hamill, Hansen & Clarke were all new appointments.
ONLY Power a leftover from previous Blues coaching lineup. Has been at club since 2020. Started as Nth Blues VFL coach.

According to Blueseum, not 1 new line coach was hired during 2023.
2023 - Tom Longergan - starts as Development & Talent Manager (newly created role)
2023 - Brad Ebert - starts as Development Coach
2024 - Jordan Russell - starts as Forward Lines coach
2024 - Ashley Hansen - becomes Senior Assistant Coach
2024 - Aaron Greaves - starts as Coaching and Performance Manager (help development of coaching group)
2024 - Torin Baker - starts as Development Coach (former Carlton College of Sport & Academy coach)

So, if above is correct, aside from Luke Power, Torin Baker and Kreuzer (ruck coach), pretty much all of the above names have been hired SINCE Voss became senior coach. I'm assuming he's had a huge say in their hiring.

Not having a go carlton_99.
IMO, Voss has a lot to answer for re. many of these coaching appt's under his 'leadership'.
IMO, he's attracted the calibre of assistants he has, due to his limitations as a coach. His lack of tactical, or strategic nous. His inability to innovate or adapt to a more dynamic game style.
Think most ambitious assistant coaches understandably would be looking elsewhere to advance their career.

Great post.

Adding to this, Voss with his experience as a failed senior coach plus 10yrs as assistant at Port, you would think would know what he needs to be successful by now.

Its either complacency or incompetence.

He is no first time, no name coach.

He is Michael Voss, big name and strong personality. He wasnt coaching with one hand behind his back...

Thats a lazy and generous narrative giving him a massive out. He should know better.

How has he not demanded better?
Unless he has accepted the motley crew of underwhelming assistants as totally adequate for his needs.

This topic has baffled me since his day1 hire.
And i have posted on this forum for 4 years on it... baffling

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[jackn]

Voss rightly copping a lot of heat but this guy needs moving on even more. Been here 6 years and managed to bring in the likes of hamill and a previously sacked Clarke to assist Voss.

Lloyd should rock up today to find his swipe not working and a desk set up our front for his exit meeting.

 

[agro]

Hopefully Graeme Wright cleans this under performer out and the rest of the coaching dept as well - he needs to tell the Board how it really is otherwise we are really ——— .

 

[jd2010]

This blokes too busy flogging his Apogee Sports certificates and and forgot to do his actual CFC job

All the efforts into the side hustle while the day job gets neglected?

 

[BlueTongue]

If the club has a backbone he’ll be frog marched out on Monday. Complete and utter failure in his role.

Please let it be with a size 12 Puma boot up his Jaxie

 

[BlueTongue]

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Not having a go carlton_99.
IMO, Voss has a lot to answer for re. many of these coaching appt's under his 'leadership'.
IMO, he's attracted the calibre of assistants he has, due to his limitations as a coach. His lack of tactical, or strategic nous. His inability to innovate or adapt to a more dynamic game style.
Think most ambitious assistant coaches understandably would be looking elsewhere to advance their career.

I don't think this is strictly correct, as Voss seemed very much on cautionary/probationary terms when he was appointed, after that deep review. I don't reckon he would have been given license to come in and swing the changes at that point.
Also, he is a good leader, just not a good gameday coach who makes the required adjustments when the obvious changes are needed.

 

[BlueTongue]

Why has Hamill copped a hammering?

Our defense has largely stood up to HUGE pressure.
If anything, our MIDS need to be held accountable for butchering the ball so much and causing fast rebounds before our defense has a chance to get back. Cowan going down so early was a massive loss because he is now very dependable.
Even Haynes played a reasonable game last night.

My 2 gripes with our defense is;

• McGovern's shithouse brainfades, lazy efforts, inconsistent form (and I want to see him traded at end of the year, and dont care if he goes well at a 3rd club, he hasn't given us value).
• not filling the KPD spot since Jones left despite numerous opportunities.

 

[DangerousD]

Why has Hamill copped a hammering?

Our defense has largely stood up to HUGE pressure.
If anything, our MIDS need to be held accountable for butchering the ball so much and causing fast rebounds before our defense has a chance to get back. Cowan going down so early was a massive loss because he is now very dependable.
Even Haynes played a reasonable game last night.

My 2 gripes with our defense is;

• McGovern's shithouse brainfades, lazy efforts, inconsistent form (and I want to see him traded at end of the year, and dont care if he goes well at a 3rd club, he hasn't given us value).
• not filling the KPD spot since Jones left despite numerous opportunities.

I guess we just don’t know who is responsible for what but, last year we were ranked 18th at conceding goals from D50 stoppages, to me this is a defensive coaching issue.

When we see teams score at a really high ratio to inside 50 entries to me that shows lack of midfield pressure, I think this can be down to the types of players we have.

Stoppage set ups though are a buy in, concentration, tactics and I think they’re turd

 

[Abers]

This blokes too busy flogging his Apogee Sports certificates and and forgot to do his actual CFC job

All the efforts into the side hustle while the day job gets neglected?

Sorry, you’re telling me this fraud has time for a side hustle whilst supposedly working full time at our footy club? What kind of circus are we running.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Can’t believe his still in the job. Just astounding