Autopsy AFL 2024 Round 16 - Eagles v Hawks Sun June 30th 4:40pm AEST/1:40pm WST (OS)

[Coasters7]

And what reason do you have that makes you think that bothers me in any way? It's behaviour that is INTENDED to make flogs like you throw your toys out of the cot, you are actively feeding it. If they weren't getting a reaction they'd probably get bored with it and move on.

I mean I’d respect it if they backed it up with good footy but being shit and carrying on like that just makes you come across as a tosser

 

[Hawker_85]

Lmao. Speaking as if the Hawks haven’t been shit for the best part of the last decade. Get off your high horse champ

The memory of being at the G on grand final day 2015 to see us put your pathetic mob to the sword for a threepeat has sustained me for the the rough 6 or 7 years in the wilderness.

 

[JD888]

Ginnivan and Watson need to back up their bullshit if they want to get anywhere.

Ginnivan dropping a chest mark and kicking a goal from the goal square to then shush the crowd is just not it. Wont get any respect if you’re average at football with those sorts of antics

I’ve warmed to Ginnivan just a little. He certainly has more right to show off than Watson does.

 

[Hawker_85]

I’ve warmed to Ginnivan just a little. He certainly has more right to show off than Watson does.

Did yell 'learn to kick you campaigner' at the telly courtesy of Watson a few times today. Good thing he stirs up the troglodytes otherwise I'd be calling for him to go back to Box Hill until he sorts his kicking and his psychology out.

 

[Coasters7]

The memory of being at the G on grand final day 2015 to see us put your pathetic mob to the sword for a threepeat has sustained me for the the rough 6 or 7 years in the wilderness.

Gosh can’t have had a very memorable 7 years then. F*ck me

 

[Hawker_85]

Gosh can’t have had a very memorable 7 years then. F*ck me

 

[Hawker_85]

Gosh can’t have had a very memorable 7 years then. F*ck me

 

[FreoGirl]

this was special

 

[Poison]

I mean I’d respect it if they backed it up with good footy but being shit and carrying on like that just makes you come across as a tosser

Look, I’m not enamoured with that sort of carry-on either, but the premise that Watson (a 19 year-old playing his eighth game of senior football) is shit is a terrible take. He’s had 23 scoring shots, and probably more than 30 total shots at goal. That’s an incredible return for a small forward of his age and inexperience. If his kicking merely improves to being average, you’re looking at a 40+ goal small forward based on current output alone. Of all Hawthorn’s under 23 cohort, only Weddle has more upside (IMO).

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

That was a 100pt belting gone begging.

Nice to win away though, after Weagles were meant to be playing their best side.

 

[Paul Kersey]

First time watching Reid. Loves a cheap shot eh. Didn’t expect that.

 

[JD888]

I don’t think the group cares what people think about them as players, as long as they’re not dirty. Play within the rules and give as much shit at you want. Shushing the crowd because it’s a hostile away game and the doubters are coming at a kid, nothing wrong with it. All for it.

Unsociable Hawks? Happy to win any way we have to, but that doesn’t mean I have to respect the bloke. It’s been rare for me to dislike any player on a Hawks side, but this guy is pushing the friendship. Anyone who has the right mail on him knows he will be elite, but I’m sorry that I don’t like the way he is going about it at the moment.

 

[Delisted]

Geez this wc guy is still going.

 

[blue harvest]

Didn't watch the game but just watched the highlights. Why was Chol getting booed? Did he do something dirty?

 

[Freomaniac]

Compare the pair

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Hawthorn won almost as many games in their worst season (2023) than the Eagles have in the last three years combined.

And yet the Eagles still have a woeful age profile

there is a reason why the Eagles still have a woeful age profile. Its called Equalization.

Eagles constantly made finals from 2015-20. So 6 years in a row they made finals. Before that, they missed out on finals in 2013-4. Those 2 years were the last 2 years they had early picks. Before that they made finals in the 2011-12 seasons off the back of the 2005-6 grand final players like Glass, Quentin Lynch, Cox, Kerr and Embley.

2008-10 they didnt make finals. That 2010 draft got them Gaff, Darling and Lycett and McGovern. Lycett Retired last season in Port colours. Gaff and Darling are cooked. McGovern is still semi decent. Guys like Shannon Hurn and Luke Shuey stayed on the eagles list one year too many.


I mean freo suffered the same fate. Dockers had their finals run in 2012-15. Pavlich, McPharlin, Johnson, Mundy and Sandilands were all in their 30s when freo made finals in that period.

Dockers go 0-10 in 2016 and had to phase out the old guys. It took a while for the young blokes to emerge, especially the key postion players. Heres one example.

Sandilands retired at the end of 2019 as a 37 year old. The timing was right too. He is replacement was Sean Darcy.

Sean Darcy came from Geelong. His debut game was rond 15, 2017 vs the cats in Geelong. Sean Darcy played 25 games from 2017-19 due to injuries and rotating as a 2nd ruck behind sandilands when fit. Once Sandilands retired, Darcy was in his 4th year and fully developed and has been freos main ruckman since round 1 of 2020.


Essentially... When you have an ageing squad where you have 7 or 8 or 9 blokes in your best 23 that are 30 years old or older, you eventually need to bring fresh kids in.

With a league of 18 sides, 19 when tassie rocks up and only 8 finals spots, its gonna be common for sides to spend 5 or 6 years in a row of not making finals.

But that 1st year of the rebuild is important. Those 18-20 year olds you get will be 23-25 year olds 5 years later, thats your next generation of core players helping the squad contest finals.

 

[Freomaniac]

Didn't watch the game but just watched the highlights. Why was Chol getting booed? Did he do something dirty?

nope, he was getting free kicks for staging or flopping. He wasnt doing anything dirty or thuggish like punching someone in the head.

 

[Paul Kersey]

nope, he was getting free kicks for staging or flopping. He wasnt doing anything dirty or thuggish like punching someone in the head.

Confused with Darling?

 

[5minutes_of_Dew]

Gosh can’t have had a very memorable 7 years then. F*ck me

When your team wins a threepeat you'll understand how the glow stays with you.

But for now I guess you'll just have to imagine what that feels like.

 

[TY24]

Your club is a joke.

Agreed. We definitely are at the moment.

 

[Coasters7]

When your team wins a threepeat you'll understand how the glow stays with you.

But for now I guess you'll just have to imagine what that feels like.

There’s living in the past and then there’s this. 10 years ago next year it’ll be

 

[Hawker_85]

There’s living in the past and then there’s this. 10 years ago next year it’ll be

True, we need to be more concerned about the future. How far off do you reckon the the next WCE flag is?

 

[Coasters7]

True, we need to be more concerned about the future. How far off do you reckon the the next WCE flag is?

We’ll win our next before the Hawks. Bookmark it

 

[Hawker_85]

We’ll win our next before the Hawks. Bookmark it

Evidence sure doesn't seem to point that way, but I guess when you're as deluded as you are there's no evidence that could sway your opinion anyway.

 

[Hawker_85]

We’ll win our next before the Hawks. Bookmark it

Also you bookmark it, I don't take orders from lowly peasants such as yourself.

 

[Coasters7]

Evidence sure doesn't seem to point that way, but I guess when you're as deluded as you are there's no evidence that could sway your opinion anyway.

Things change quickly in footy. There were calls for SMitchs head as recently as 2-3 months ago. But things get forgotten very quickly with a handful of wins.