Autopsy AFL 2022 First Qualifying Final - Cats v Pies Sat Sept 3rd 4:35pm EST (MCG)

[moond0g]

It's our home ground. You haven't played there since Rd 18. To say that 'it won't be a factor'.. I think you might be wrong there. It does play a part. How do you give it a %. I dunno.

Look at Anfield man.. no crowds.. they lost a lot of games.. crowds back.. 21-22.. didn't lose a game.

You're right in proabably being a factor, albeit a small one. But also quite a few differences.

It is your 'home' ground, but it's also a few other clubs home ground too unlike Liverpool/Anfield.

Given other clubs play home games there (including us), you don't have a monopoly over it. This is our 7th game there this year; we'll be pretty familiar with the ground. This is far less daunting than travelling to a ground for a one-off game.

It's also a final at a convenient time for Geelong fans. Which means you won't have a 90/10 mix of the crowd; the crowd will be relatively neutral. This also nullifies quite a bit of any perceived advantage.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

You're right in proabably being a factor, albeit a small one. But also quite a few differences.

It is your 'home' ground, but it's also a few other clubs home ground too unlike Liverpool/Anfield.

Given other clubs play home games there (including us), you don't have a monopoly over it. This is our 7th game there this year; we'll be pretty familiar with the ground. This is far less daunting than travelling to a ground for a one-off game.

It's also a final at a convenient time for Geelong fans. Which means you won't have a 90/10 mix of the crowd; the crowd will be relatively neutral. This also nullifies quite a bit of any perceived advantage.

General speaking.. not having a monopoly on it.. matters in the h&a season.. not as much in the finals.. doesn't mean anything at all in a GF say if a Melbourne based side is up against an interstate side.

I'm not going to say it's gonna be daunting for Geelong.. or you're not familiar with the ground.. you haven't played on it for 7 weeks though.. we've played 14 games on it.. recent one's.. big crowds.. with a lot of noise.. might be the slight edge we need.

 

[Giant Pete]

Probably like a lot of neutrals I can see Geelong winning easily or Pies in a thriller.

 

[Whiskers]

You're right in proabably being a factor, albeit a small one. But also quite a few differences.

It is your 'home' ground, but it's also a few other clubs home ground too unlike Liverpool/Anfield.

Given other clubs play home games there (including us), you don't have a monopoly over it. This is our 7th game there this year; we'll be pretty familiar with the ground. This is far less daunting than travelling to a ground for a one-off game.

It's also a final at a convenient time for Geelong fans. Which means you won't have a 90/10 mix of the crowd; the crowd will be relatively neutral. This also nullifies quite a bit of any perceived advantage.

The final at a more convenient time won’t be stopping the crowd being 70-80% in Collingwood’s favour.
Even if we break somewhat even in the club allocation’s, it’s the AFL and MCC spots which is more than half the ground, that will be Collingwood fans by a huge majority.

 

[JohnZ]

Even if we break somewhat even in the club allocation’s, it’s the AFL and MCC spots which is more than half the ground, that will be Collingwood fans by a huge majority.

MCC will be a fairly even mix with plenty of neutrals, but the AFL members will be 75% black and white.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

MCC will be a fairly even mix with plenty of neutrals, but the AFL members will be 75% black and white.

I'm not sure about 75% I'd say around 65%.

 

[Ginnieboy]

I'm not sure about 75% I'd say around 65%.

More than enough to storm the ground if we lose.

 

[Lord of the Pies]

Stupid timeslot. I normally go out for a meal before or after the game. So its a 3pm lunch or an 8pm dinner.

 

[Wojcinski]

I'm not sure about 75% I'd say around 65%.

I reckon it'll be 68.73%

 

[Hot_Pies_2019]

Well.. we're not playing a side.. juuust outside the 8.. Geelong.. is.. a great side.. let's wait for the teams to be announced.. before deciding.

Stupid timeslot. I normally go out for a meal before or after the game. So its a 3pm lunch or an 8pm dinner.

3pm lunch. Champagne after the game

 

[JohnZ]

Stupid timeslot. I normally go out for a meal before or after the game. So its a 3pm lunch or an 8pm dinner.

2pm lunch and an extra beer before the game

 

[GeelongFTW]

Stupid timeslot. I normally go out for a meal before or after the game. So its a 3pm lunch or an 8pm dinner.

The timeslot is best for Geelong fans as requested by the clulb. If you don't like it than Collingwood finish top 2 next time.

 

[DaddyMac80]

MCC will be a fairly even mix with plenty of neutrals, but the AFL members will be 75% black and white.

Wow, we win it this year and we'll equal you on 16 flags.

But out 16 won't include 7 fake VFA flags.

All 16 of ours will be actual VFL/AFL flags.

1902 1903 1910 1917 1919
1927 1928 1929 1930 (only fourpeat in VFL/AFL history)
1935 1936 1953 1958 1990 2010
2022 praying: )

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

Last years premiership coach was waiting for us also.

With the same plan that didn't work against you last time. In my view Melbourne haven't shown us anything new this year. They are good at what they do and if allowed to do what they do they win the flag. I reckon teams like Collingwood, Geelong, Sydney and Fremantle have evovled a bit and Richmond has regained a bit of mongrel. It's that constant evolution and regeneration and ageing that changes the final eight each year.

If you guys are kicking coast to coast goals and getting us out the back a la Essendon and Carlton then that will be another classic Cat finals failure as you'll generate enough score to get the job done. While I do rate the Pies and they are a great side to watch I'm backing in Longmire, Hardwick and Scott in particular to shut you down.

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

I can’t forgive the fact he hasn’t watched Back To The Future.

That’s insulting Michael J Fox in my books.

GREAT SCOTT

 

[JPetro83]

This game should have been at the old traditional 2:30pm time slot. i miss day game finals

 

[Hot_Pies_2019]

This game should have been at the old traditional 2:30pm time slot. i miss day game finals

Too early for cat supporters to get an hour up the highway. Wouldn’t work I’m afraid.

 

[JohnZ]

This game should have been at the old traditional 2:30pm time slot. i miss day game finals

Too early for cat supporters to get an hour up the highway. Wouldn’t work I’m afraid.

We asked for arvo, 7 said it had to be 4.30. Blame them

 

[JohnZ]

Wow, we win it this year and we'll equal you on 16 flags.

But out 16 won't include 7 fake VFA flags.

All 16 of ours will be actual VFL/AFL flags.

1902 1903 1910 1917 1919
1927 1928 1929 1930 (only fourpeat in VFL/AFL history)
1935 1936 1953 1958 1990 2010
2022 praying: )

If we’re only counting real flags (ie AFL era) its 3-2 our way. Catch up.

 

[DaddyMac80]

Pies to win the flag?

Why not, anything's possible with a little Daicos magic

 

[DaddyMac80]

If we’re only counting real flags (ie AFL era) its 3-2 our way. Catch up.

Read again mate, 16 VFL/AFL flags.

I'm not counting VFA flags

 

[JohnZ]

Read again mate, 16 VFL/AFL flags.

I'm not counting VFA flags

Either count AFL only or count Club flags from inception. Anything else is just cherry-picking

 

[LoungeLizard]

Either count AFL only or count Club flags from inception. Anything else is just cherry-picking

You can count whatever you want, no-body is stopping you.

Same with whoever thinks the VFL and AFL are the same league.

Non-Vics can also count what they want.

 

[JohnZ]

You can count whatever you want, no-body is stopping you.

Exactly. Only two numbers matter to me.

16 - Club Flags
3 - AFL Flags

Cant wait to see if we can bump up these rookie numbers this year.

 

[DaddyMac80]

Either count AFL only or count Club flags from inception. Anything else is just cherry-picking

This is too funny!
I'll count from 'inception' ...
The VFL's 'inception' or .. first season was 1897.
"
The VFL's inaugural season occurred in 1897. It made several innovations early on to entice the public's interest, including an annual finals tournament, rather than awarding the premiership to the team with the best record through the season; and, the formal establishment of the modern scoring system, in which six points are awarded for a goal, and one point for a behind.

Although the VFL and the VFA continued to compete for spectator interest for many years, the VFL quickly established itself as the premier competition in Victoria ..."

I you seriously having this argument?

Should we include reserves premierships for AFL clubs with stand alone teams since we took over the state league?